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TSyinchet
post May 24 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 23 2015, 02:21 PM)
straight away get mid-range SAM plz

BUK-M2 ftw
btw, usually how frequent the army have these shooting drills in a month?
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I prefer we look at CAMM.

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post May 24 2015, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ May 24 2015, 07:37 AM)
Other than single engine, is there any gripen weak point from rmaf requirement
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AFAIK no specs requirement published when the tender called.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 23 2015, 11:51 PM)
Swedish Fighter Jet Best Bet For Malaysia's Defence - Manufacturer

Meanwhile, Ovrebo told Bernama that Gripen NG, which was equipped with a 27mm Mauser BK27 gun, litening and reccelite, was not only usable in times of war but could also be used for daily training.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-...o-malaysia.html
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He forgot to do a marketing homework tongue.gif
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post May 24 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(NoUsernameLeft @ May 23 2015, 03:57 PM)
Any news about military allocation in rmk11?
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We should close this thread now..... or just discuss about what is military progress around us. Since menhan said no need to buy sophisticated equipment as the threat that we receive now only basic.

I am very dissapointed with this comment by the minister. He just see IS as a threat.
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post May 24 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 24 2015, 10:20 AM)
We should close this thread now..... or just discuss about what is military progress around us. Since menhan said no need to buy sophisticated equipment as the threat that we receive now only basic.

I am very dissapointed with this comment by the minister. He just see IS as a threat.
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From Hishammuddin twitter:

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Can't buy wat we cannot afford “@FriendsofBN1: #RMK11: "Pembelian sebarang aset oleh @1MinDef RMK-11 perlu melihat kpd kemampuan negara"


https://mobile.twitter.com/HishammuddinH2O/...390258836492289
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ May 24 2015, 10:27 AM)
Tunggu esok je. Khamis aritu baru bentang secara kasar. Esok baru bagi details.
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Betul ke esok? MMP said detail takkan didedahkan

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post May 24 2015, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ May 24 2015, 10:41 AM)
Tp nampak sedih jugak la..... kemampuan negara tu mmg tak boleh elak. Tp sape yg menyebabkan kemampuan negara jadi mcm ni.

Bayangkan......5 tahun lg nk berstatus negara maju.....tp ade 2 frigate, x de MPA, etc.

Nanti jadi negara maju.....military standard botswana, burkina faso, timur leste je
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post May 24 2015, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 24 2015, 10:59 AM)
Tp nampak sedih jugak la..... kemampuan negara tu mmg tak boleh elak. Tp sape yg menyebabkan kemampuan negara jadi mcm ni.

Bayangkan......5 tahun lg nk berstatus negara maju.....tp ade 2 frigate, x de MPA, etc.

Nanti jadi negara maju.....military standard botswana, burkina faso, timur leste je
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Bawa tenang.
at least navy dapat ticket besar ngan sgpv.
kesian kat tudm.
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post May 24 2015, 12:09 PM

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If China deploys oil rigs near the Sabah and Sarawak coasts, means that it is too late for MAF.
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post May 24 2015, 12:09 PM

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Manala tau TUDM trus dapat PAK FA..
tu pun kalo tak bangkrap la..haha
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post May 24 2015, 12:18 PM

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tat why.. I always cakap MOD should be full of military personal including it Head

tu hisap last time mh370 incident will improve our national radar... buy new equirments etc etc

but till now satu benda pun tak ada.. Janji kosong mulut besar expose

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 24 2015, 12:09 PM)
If China deploys oil rigs near the Sabah and Sarawak coasts, means that it is too late for MAF.
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Imo, sabah is quite secure given how we have developed the pulau layang-layang.
Sarawak james shoal is the main problem for now.
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bawa bertenang Yang Berhormat semua

gov kalau takde orang push depa, memang takkan buat punya

problem is with the citizens..if citizens buat dunno je about defence and only look at gst like they're doing now, then gov won't do anything much about defence..if citizens demand for more defence budget, set up rallies n demos about it, be vocal about it..only then gov baru nak terkial2 give more budget..
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If dealing with China, they only respect force, no point talking.


QUOTE(yinchet @ May 24 2015, 12:51 PM)
Imo, sabah is quite secure given how we have developed the pulau layang-layang.
Sarawak james shoal is the main problem for now.
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QUOTE(thpace @ May 24 2015, 12:18 PM)
tat why.. I always cakap MOD should be full of military personal including it Head

tu hisap last time mh370 incident will improve our national radar... buy new equirments etc etc

but till now satu benda pun tak ada.. Janji kosong mulut besar expose
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I disagree.
Rather the government is not looking at military seriously.
more worrying me is all politician does not emphasize and take military seriously be whichever camp they came from.
we are lacking of real military modernisation planning and also white paper analaysis on our military.
we are also lacking of good procurement process which allowed too many leakage and allowed politician to meddle the procurement process.
Sigh.
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post May 24 2015, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 24 2015, 12:55 PM)
If dealing with China, they only respect force, no point talking.
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By saying like that I doubt any of the asean country they need to respect.
Is there anything we can do if they simply park an aircraft carrier 2 destroyer and nuke sub in our door? I doubt none.

For now pulau layang layang areas pretty much safe.
China cant do much there unless they go in there by force.
james shoal yes is in danger if china park an oil rig there we pretty much screw there.
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QUOTE(cleaner @ May 24 2015, 07:37 AM)
Other than single engine, is there any gripen weak point from rmaf requirement
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the dual engine requirement have both its advance and disadvantage. Though the preference is dual engine, if single is cost effective, RMAF would take it nonetheless

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 24 2015, 12:54 PM)
bawa bertenang Yang Berhormat semua

gov kalau takde orang push depa, memang takkan buat punya

problem is with the citizens..if citizens buat dunno je about defence and only look at gst like they're doing now, then gov won't do anything much about defence..if citizens demand for more defence budget, set up rallies n demos about it, be vocal about it..only then gov baru nak terkial2 give more budget..
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macam indon and vietnam. But they have conflict tat why urge military spending publicly

here? we downplay it so much that another nation entering our territory is less important than the GST or political survival of its political leader

QUOTE(yinchet @ May 24 2015, 01:01 PM)
I disagree.
Rather the government is not looking at military seriously.
more worrying me is all politician does not emphasize and take military seriously be whichever camp they came from.
we are lacking of real military modernisation planning and also white paper analaysis on our military.
we are also lacking of good procurement process which allowed too many leakage and allowed politician to meddle the procurement process.
Sigh.
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Either party is doomed for the military anyway. One assume using LTZ in sampan with guns enough to deter china while another busy with their own political survival

That why i rather advocate a military leader inside MOD rather than elected one that take national defence for granted

U give this much, the military will plan what to buy, procurement and make all the necessary action without interference


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post May 24 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 24 2015, 01:08 PM)
By saying like that I doubt any of the asean country they need to respect.
Is there anything we can do if they simply park an aircraft carrier 2 destroyer and nuke sub in our door? I doubt none.

For now pulau layang layang areas pretty much safe.
China cant do much there unless they go in there by force.
james shoal yes is in danger if china park an oil rig there we pretty much screw there.
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time to take a decomed rig and park it there as well

that what china did before their island expansion laugh.gif
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Does rmaf consider the f16??

Or is it too old
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post May 24 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 24 2015, 01:21 PM)
time to take a decomed rig and park it there as well

that what china did before their island expansion laugh.gif
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I dun think china wanna put more heats on south china sea for now.
they are trying to make malaysia become their macai but malaysia seem..... laugh.gif

QUOTE(AxeFire @ May 24 2015, 01:22 PM)
Does rmaf consider the f16??

Or is it too old
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Only if its come with good weapon package.
Tudm would prefer f18 though.

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