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Should I jump ship or not.., for better carrier & pay (please advice)
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TSiluvena
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Oct 9 2006, 04:11 PM, updated 20y ago
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can someone give me some useful tips and advice? ok, i started working in this mnc company (not IT) for about 3 years already. 1st year i started as helpdest technical support team. after that i requested to transfer under network n infrastructure team in which my post now are pc & network exec. i'm looking for better working environment to broaden my knowledge, experince and also get better salary.
to make things worst, i'm doing a system administrator job for almost 2 years. but, my boss still not say anything about my current job. whether i will get promoted or not. all still unclear. current system admin now doing business operation related. bit by bit i'm taking over her work.. but not her salary.. hehe..
Certification Designing a Security-Enhanced MS Win 2000 Network (year obtained: 2004) Managing MS System Management Server 2003 (year obtained: 2006)
Skill System Management Server 2003 (proficiency=intermediate, years of exp=2 years) Active Directory (proficiency=intermediate, years of exp=2 years) Lotus Notes (proficiency=intermediate, years of exp=2 years)
Current salary: RM2300
Qualification: Diploma in Sci. Comp.
Other skills: Operating System: Win9X, WinME, Win2K, WinXP, Win2003, Mac OSX. Computer systems performance/installation. Hardware/software/network setup and configuration. Excellent troubleshooting skills on hardware/software related issue.
guys.. based on my experience and knowledge above.. 1) what position are suitable to me most and what other skills that i'm lacking off? 2) what about my salary.. i know my qualification is quite low but with great responsibility i think i deserve better. 3) what prof. cert. that i should get to enhance my qualification? 4) how much salary i can get at other places?
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goliath
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Oct 9 2006, 04:22 PM
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1) I'm not sure about this 2) You could get higher salary if you decided to change to another company 3) Maybe CCNA, CCNP  4) About RM3,000 (with your experience)
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darrencw
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Oct 9 2006, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(goliath @ Oct 9 2006, 04:22 PM) 1) I'm not sure about this 2) You could get higher salary if you decided to change to another company 3) Maybe CCNA, CCNP  4) About RM3,000 (with your experience) point 2 and point 4 is possible.what i would suggest is that u should meanwhile upgrade ur own qualifications.get MCSE or CCNA first.Claim from ur company.If ure able to get one of those paper,u'll be bonded with the company.However,if ure lucky enough that some headhunters spotted u and some other companines are willing to take u with high pay and reimburse the fees paid for ur course aquisition.It'll be priceless.They'll offer you something u more than u want.As they're the ones which is DEMANDING and ure the one SUPPLYING.Now,make it clear that ure not the only engineer in this world.I'm saying that if ure LUCKY.just my 2 cents.
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M2K2Land
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Oct 9 2006, 05:32 PM
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1) what position are suitable to me most and what other skills that i'm lacking off? -System enginer or network administrator for some company. 2) what about my salary.. i know my qualification is quite low but with great responsibility i think i deserve better. -Lower abit... can get slightly higher 3) what prof. cert. that i should get to enhance my qualification? - Can enhance by taking degree/Master (part time ?) 4) how much salary i can get at other places? - 2500-2600 shouldnt be problem  Good luck
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TSiluvena
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Oct 9 2006, 06:07 PM
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thanx guys for your comments..
now.. i still want to wait for a couple of months to get all experience that i needed.. and u know larr.. most of my knowledge gained from internet and "try & error cert". to get a training also hard. i thinks its the time to get prof. cert. using my own money now. i know most of the tricks, only to get cert as a ticket to prove my skills.
hmmm... still waiting for other's opinion..
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goliath
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Oct 9 2006, 08:20 PM
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Work till you get your bonus. After that, start looking for other challenges
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SUSflamer
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Oct 9 2006, 08:22 PM
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Dude,
Dont short change yourself. From what I see, you have made the determination to jump and this is a good start. With your experience you should ask for RM3K and this is not really a big amount.
For me I think if you have the time and opportunity, you should go for a degree as many MNCs do favour a degree eventhough it is common. Kinda like the basic requirement.
2) what about my salary.. i know my qualification is quite low but with great responsibility i think i deserve better. - This is a touchy issue. I believe u know how much your past admin was getting but u are not getting that amount. Somehow, there is an urge to tell the boss, but it is not as easy as it seems. Does ur MNC treat you well? How are the other benefits? Do you think other MNCs can give u a better deal? Is the working environment nice in ur current place?
3) what prof. cert. that i should get to enhance my qualification? - Basically i feel a degree would help. I see u are already MCP. Perhaps u can try to sit another 3 more papers to make urself and MCSA.
4) how much salary i can get at other places? For me I would ask for RM3K. However, the only factor that may pull you back is the degree. The HR can say that it is their policy that Diploma holders only earn a certain amount. Its unfair, but nothing much to do.
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kb2005
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Oct 9 2006, 08:23 PM
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If salary is high enough, i will also consider that
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TSiluvena
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Oct 9 2006, 10:02 PM
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hi all.. this just come from my mind..
which one to be considered most important, since some of you mention getting a degree is more important and some says that getting prof. cert. is more important. a) degree (part time) b) prof. cert. (MCSE, MCSA etc)
both of them required some huge money to be spent. so what u guys think?
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wos
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Oct 9 2006, 11:42 PM
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IMHO, if u having 2++ years experience liau, i think prof. cert is more valuable for you, .. i agree with goliath work till end of the year, wait for the bonus
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goliath
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Oct 10 2006, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(iluvena @ Oct 9 2006, 10:02 PM) hi all.. this just come from my mind.. which one to be considered most important, since some of you mention getting a degree is more important and some says that getting prof. cert. is more important. a) degree (part time) b) prof. cert. (MCSE, MCSA etc) both of them required some huge money to be spent. so what u guys think? I think both are important. a) Degree holder salary > Diploma holder salary b) Extra skills = more opportunities
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cuebiz
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Oct 10 2006, 09:15 AM
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Go for Degree first. Your salary will never soar if you are still holding Diploma.
Certification is optional. It is only good if applying for job as you would stand out from the rest that dun have it.
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fishbone
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Oct 10 2006, 04:05 PM
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Guys,
Current job - fantastic career path with fantastic benefits, boss that understands New offer - 30% more salary (cos cant claim milage and OT), offer to sponsor you take up certs, uncertainties in career
which to choose?
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nx7010
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Oct 11 2006, 12:06 AM
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fishbone,
from what u mentioned seems that the current job is worth keeping if you see a future and good career path.
new offer sounds good only if like let's say ur current salary is alot say 5-10K then the 30% will = to a substantial amount.
if like current salary is like 2K extra 30% also 2.6K only. 600 might seem alot at first but like u mentioned ur current job have got a fantastic career path which i'm sure u can cover back the 30% increament in a year or 2 then stick to the current job.
at the end of the day though it boils down to you to see if you like ur current job or not. and whether the 30% increase is a good justification to change.
my 2 cents.
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TSiluvena
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Oct 11 2006, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(nx7010 @ Oct 11 2006, 12:06 AM) fishbone, from what u mentioned seems that the current job is worth keeping if you see a future and good career path. new offer sounds good only if like let's say ur current salary is alot say 5-10K then the 30% will = to a substantial amount. if like current salary is like 2K extra 30% also 2.6K only. 600 might seem alot at first but like u mentioned ur current job have got a fantastic career path which i'm sure u can cover back the 30% increament in a year or 2 then stick to the current job. at the end of the day though it boils down to you to see if you like ur current job or not. and whether the 30% increase is a good justification to change. my 2 cents. i second that..
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