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Oct 14 2015, 11:06 AM
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month of rosary !!
oh, jesus say we cannot be rich ?? how come ?? i am ok here. went to IC sunset mass on last sunday. |
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Oct 15 2015, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(mindslicer81 @ Oct 15 2015, 11:09 AM) month of rosary !! Just remember this. The supreme law and ultimate end is the salvation of your soul. Anything which distracts from that ultimate end should not be the main focus of the life of any Christian, be it money, even other human beings.oh, jesus say we cannot be rich ?? how come ?? i am ok here. went to IC sunset mass on last sunday. |
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Anyone here got any idea what the heck is happening at STM, Subang Jaya? From news reports, looks more like someone changed the statue...
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Oct 15 2015, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 15 2015, 07:02 PM) I don't understand why catholics always hate protestants. If you know how to google, you would have found all the answers to all these common accusations easily. Many of these accusations are also responded in the earlier posts of this thread.I mean, catholic for once is not a real religion, i.e. it contradicts most of what the Bible teaches. 1, catholic worship the virgin mary. 2. catholic addresses the priests as "father" even though the Bible say nobody except God as the father. 3. catholic recommends confession to the priests even though in confession is a private thing to be done. And many others. I am not a catholic, but I learned a lot about catholicism recently when I researched the Jesuits as the source of all evil, i.e. the roman catholic formented world wars, civil wars and unrests, etc, including prosecuted true christians, i.e. the protestants, burned a lot of christian scriptures in the old days (so christians cannot really claim the Bible is a complete work since many other major works were lost), etc etc. The pope changed the sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday. Some speculate it is because the pope & gang are originally sun worshipper. And then recently the pope also called Jesus and the Cross as a failure (don't believe can Youtube the video). The vatican is the world's wealthiest institution. The Rothschilds are the financial guardian of the vatican. During medieval times when the kings of England want to make war with the papacy, their wealth cannot even match the wealth of the papal bull. Some say the roman vatican IS the scarlet whore that sits on the beast (Rome, situated in the seven hills). I wonder why christians don't know all this? Maybe I should rephrase that. I wonder how many christians know all this? BTW, if Protestants were the true christians, then something must be not right since the term was only known more than 1500 years after Christ. So are you saying there were no true christians before that? |
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 15 2015, 07:11 PM) How many roman catholic really follow what the Bible say? Why do they call the priests "father"? Why do they worship virgin mary? I mean, the Bible never taught these things. And if the roman catholics are not following the teachings of the Bible, then what teachings are they really following? In the end of times, there will be many false prophets and many will be fooled by such false prophets. The plan to corrupt Jesus' teachings didn't get started yesterday. It was started even during and after Jesus' time, when roman catholic authorities prosecuted protestants by throwing them into the lions, etc. How many christians realize all these? Or do they choose to be wilfully blind? So you don't you call your own father 'Father'? So Scripture also contradicted itself when it has instances of "our father Abraham" or "our father Isaac"? Or Paul calling Timothy "his child"? This post has been edited by yeeck: Oct 16 2015, 12:41 AM |
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 16 2015, 12:46 AM) Is the pope your father? Are the priests your father? Isn't the roman empire = roman catholic/vatican when the roman emperor converted into Christianity in order to save his empire? They are our spiritual fathers. Roman Empire != Roman Catholic/Vatican. So you said he converted to Christianity to save his empire? What's your source for this claim? |
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 16 2015, 12:59 AM) I don't know what accusation is already resolved, but I learned about the Jesuits being a secret military arm of the vatican founded by Ignatius and whoever to join as a member of the vatican must sign an oath or something that he must be willing to kill the enemies and the infidels to protect Christianity, etc. Of course I am sure you already have justifications for such oath, mixing human standards with heavenly standards as equal. Even an ex-priest of the Jesuits named Alberto Rivera spoke about it as well as how he was told Islam was invented by the roman catholic to wipe out the Jews and Christians, that the true objective of the vatican is not about Jesus or God, but power and global dominance, i.e. NWO. I do not learn about all this from any infidel, but from Christians alone that have the knowledge and experience throughout the history. Yes, there will be lots of justifications to contradict the Bible. Contradictions remain contradictions, no matter how you justify it. The Jesuits are a religious order of the RCC, just like there are other religious orders such as the Franciscans, Dominicans, Norbertines, etc...each having their own charisma. No there is no such oath to kill. If Islam was invented by the RCC, then it must be the most stupid thing to do since Islam virtually wiped out the early Christians of North Africa and wanted to destroy Europe via the Ottoman Turks.Even the Bible already revealed the vatican as the whore that sits on the beast that is rome that blaspheme and mislead many people. Maybe you think you are not mislead. Maybe you think you're on the right path. Well, who knows. You can be dead wrong. Yes I can google. And most of the time I can find lots of very strong evidences against the vatican, lots more evidences against it than evidences favoring it. Gosh..you are sounding like de1929...lol...Go ahead, make all the accusations that you want. But if you don't have solid proof for it or get your history all mixed up, you are nothing more than an empty vessel with lots of noise. |
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 16 2015, 01:17 AM) From some video that I watched in recent past. I just googled and found this http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgosp...imeline_10.html. Oh boy...nowhere did your link from NG ever claimed he was the first RC pope...lol, while the other is definitely biased towards anti-Catholic protestantism. Golly, do you even read from more sources?And here http://www.reformation.org/pope-constantine.html stating the roman emperor as the first roman catholic pope, which to my logic means just the same as roman empire = roman catholic/vatican, although it can be in different name and form. This post has been edited by yeeck: Oct 16 2015, 01:21 AM |
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 16 2015, 01:23 AM) From a documentary I recently watched, Islam was invented to suppress the Jews first. But then Islam grew too big and was very proficient in warfare that it rebelled against the vatican and thus became the enemy of Christianity. Do you know who is Ian Paisley? And you accept everything you watch or read at face value without comparing from the other parties? Interesting...The oath can be found here at http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=jesuit You can read the rest of the oath. This post has been edited by yeeck: Oct 16 2015, 01:25 AM |
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Lovely rendition of Ave Maris Stella...
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 16 2015, 01:33 AM) The Sabbath day. Ooo...even Protestants will object to you..http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_sabbath.htm Even Christians do not follow the original way, that was Saturday, not Sunday. |
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 16 2015, 01:31 AM) I am objective and can certainly judge what I read and compare the evidences from both parties. So do you have any evidences discrediting the oath? And how can you be sure that evidence is truthful? I am ready to receive your evidence. http://www.evangelizationstation.com/htm_h...th_debunked.htm |
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Oct 16 2015, 01:38 AM) Yes, I know. Because I also read a statement from the vatican itself, that the Protestant's practice of observing Sunday as Sabbath day indirectly means they are submitting to the authority of the vatican. So I am not surprised if Protestants object to me. Nevertheless I am also sure not all the Protestants will object to me. |
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