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cybermaster98
post Apr 28 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Apr 28 2015, 04:50 PM)
Haha same here bro..sufferred badly during last year november and december..learned alot from that experience and now my portfolio more diversified (europe and china got 1 find each now tongue.gif)
Exactly. Last year I was only in MY. This year diversified globally.

But past week I noticed, when fund prices drop, they drop a lot but when go up, like tikus kencing. mad.gif

Aberdeen only went up 0.0030 on Mon. Big Cap China went up 0.0023.

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post Apr 28 2015, 05:10 PM

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Manulife India Equity continues to go down. Yesterday was the 10th continuous day of losses (0.985 in total). And expected to continue. Today down again. mad.gif

Lowest NAV price in 4 months. Probably a good time for new investors to go in...maybe in the next few days?

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post Apr 28 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Apr 28 2015, 05:41 PM)
Seems unstable la bro india market..dont know wanna allocate some for india or just stick to malaysia china and europe..u got funds in india?
As Looi said, India is one of the few world markets which have a PE ratio that's lower than the Fair PE value.

But then again:
http://www.businessinsider.my/morgan-stanl...c44TmM823HbR.97


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post Apr 29 2015, 08:26 AM

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Big drop in both KGF and Eastspring Small Cap.

Good to go in? Or stay out of MY?
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Apr 29 2015, 10:07 AM)
So for newbie like me, stay out for now from MY funds??

What do you mean by "valuation".?
Some of us started moving out funds from MY last week before the correction which I think was a good short term decision. I too reduced my MY holdings by about 75%.

Yesterday's drop in KGF wiped out the last 3 weeks of gains. mad.gif

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post Apr 29 2015, 10:33 AM

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A lot of the drop in the global stock markets this week is because of the US Feds meeting ongoing now. So it could pick up or become worse end of this week.

So the question now is, since prices are low for certain funds like KGF, Eastsprings SC and Manulife India, is this a good time to go in or is there more downside potential?

The only fund in my portfolio which is not in the red, is Aberdeen and KGF although my KGF profits have dropped from about 10% to only 4% now.

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post Apr 29 2015, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2015, 10:37 AM)
"MAKE REFERENCE TO VALUATION INDICATORS

Thus, investors should never judge if a fund is cheap or expensive based on its fund price. Instead, investors should be aware of the valuations of the underlying markets which the fund invests in. Investors might like to read our monthly Overall Market Summary and Earnings Growth Forecast for equity markets under our coverage to aid them in finding value.

When market fundamentals (such as attractive estimated PE ratios and strong earnings growth) and economic outlook are both supportive, it still makes good sense to invest in a fund even though its unit price is high".

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2288
The problem is most markets are having PE valuations which are higher than the Fair PE values. So using that as a gauge to determine buying is not gonna be sufficient. History has proven that valuations can sometimes go much higher before a correction begins.

The question now is how much higher can valuations go and for how long? For markets like China, its a bit of a 50-50. Economic growth figures are not good but stock market is rallying and now China plans to begin QE. So I think this region is worth taking a risk on as long as you balance your portfolio with global funds.

In my opinion, both the Malaysia and US markets pose a higher risk of a correction in the near term compared to Europe or Japan or Greater China.

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post Apr 29 2015, 11:00 AM

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I just did a quick comparison for the money I withdrew from ASB to invest into UT. If I had kept the money in ASB, I would have 'made' a 'profit' 5.7X more than my current UT profit.

So was it a good decision? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 29 2015, 11:02 AM)
I think we all always make comparison like that. Heck, if I put all my stock investing money in UT, I would have gain so so so much more.
Yes but then ure comparing 2 high risk investment modes which is ok. But in this case ASB is far less risk with stable returns (since its fixed price). But UT isn't.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2015, 11:05 AM)
doh.gif  wow 5.7 times more???
the answer for now at this time is very clear then.
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wondering how long and at what IRR rate must this UT perform to be on par if not better?  hmm.gif
That's my concern. I don't see my UT earning 5.7X to even match ASB returns unless there's a big jump in China and Hong Kong stock markets. And India stabilises.
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Europe Unseats U.S. as Best Place to Invest in Bloomberg Poll

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...-bloomberg-poll

This is quite an unsettling article especially who those of us who are heavy in China at the moment.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 29 2015, 11:16 AM)
ASB versus UT.

One participate in a real open market where market forces comes into play and where one can compute the risk and return mathermatically.

The other is a close guarded secret black hole where the returns are ??? and sustainability is ???

Xuzen
Yes true.

But for anything to 'happen' to ASB, the country has to be in a much worse condition. Many more avenues for the Gov to tap money from for their 'sustainability' in the near term.


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QUOTE(chelsea2013 @ Apr 29 2015, 11:32 AM)
bought 2 funds  just now....CIMB Global Titans and RHB Big Cap China....
Hope for the best.....
Good but should have gone for Aberdeen. Global Titans too heavy in US. In my opinion la.
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Im also thinking of cutting my losses in Manulife India soon and move funds into Ponzi 2.0.

Good idea?
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Rule No. 1 in China’s Bull-Market Rally: Don’t Look at Earnings

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...illers-in-china

On the city’s exchange link with Hong Kong, there’s still about 171 billion yuan ($27.6 billion) of quota for mainland equity purchases that’s gone unused by foreign funds

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 29 2015, 02:42 PM)
Today masuk little $ into Japan!
What fund?
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What other funds have good Japan exposure? Too risky to go into country focused funds now I think.
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0.01% up for Shanghai. Gotta be the smallest increase ever. KLSE is worse today. Down by 0.65%.

So we'll see another tiny increase in China funds but a bigger drop for KGF.

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