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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V67, U haz CVT Falcon PUNCH liao?

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davidke20
post Mar 30 2015, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Mar 29 2015, 07:51 PM)
guys, mahu tanya sikit..tayar sudah botak, plan to change tyres and RIMS to 15 inch.. (15x7) rims...and yes its lighter than the steel 13 inch rims

anyone got change saga 1.3flx 13 inch rims to 15 inch? hows the performance and fuel consumption?

do advice guys, if not good, ill just stick to 13 inch..

thank u

any advice would be much appreciated
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Confirm fuel consumption increase! How much? Regardless, you're going to change it anyways rolleyes.gif FYI, the steelrim GaGa uses is 13" inherited from Lancer Plotong Wigra, which is consider light weight at its category at 3kg a piece. So, there's only 2 type of rims you get to be lighter than them

Genuine RAYS ENGINEERING TE37, 17" 5 hole at 3.7kg(by right, if you can find any 4 holes + 15" and it's genuine, it is supposed to be lighter than 3kg)
Genuine WATANABE BANANA Aluminium R-Type 16"x9.5J at 4.5kg (They have variant from 10", 12" 13" 14" 16". If you can find 15"x7J, by right it should also be lighter than 3kg)

Oh and all those genuine japorn rims came with single PCD nod.gif

http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/index.htm

http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/index.php

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post Mar 30 2015, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 30 2015, 08:35 AM)
Your 15 inch steel rim how much
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Itu nanti hang kena tanya nestum. Aku pon xtaw bodoh kepe, masih sanggup bayar utk belik rim kompang laugh.gif
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post Mar 30 2015, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 30 2015, 09:03 AM)
How much kilo. Was thinking to follow your foot step. Bit that before they announce gst la
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9kg if I remember korekly laugh.gif If u plan for 15 and in a tight bajet, pls look for 5 spoke Shitty rim! The lightest stock rim u can ever get. At abt high 5kg.
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post Mar 30 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(kazasho @ Mar 30 2015, 10:58 AM)
just got my first 1000km service at Intan Mayang SC Shah Alam.
took a 10,000km interval = fully synthetic oil since might not have to time to service every 5000km

my review on SC,
1. mechanics attitude? they left ciggy bud on my saga floor mat. meaning they smoke while servicing my car. leaving odor is one thing, but leaving ciggy buds like that?

2. they are proud on giving free car wash and vacuum, but they didnt do the job properly. heck, I dont even mind paying extra rm10 for a proper carwash.
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May be some idiot stepped on bud whilst final checking in the car(for recording odometer reading) and left the bud there? And, the usual bold statement from Plotong is always, THIS IS PLOTONG, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
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post Mar 30 2015, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 30 2015, 03:07 PM)
May I be off topic enough to ask how much cigarettes cost in Malaysia?
I'm not a smoker (else I'd likely be dead) so my limited ability to find what they cost here due to them being a product that has to be hidden in shops and not advertised anywhere has me thinking our price is about AU$200 for a carton of 200.
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RM140 a carton of 200. Why do you need that pricing? unsure.gif
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post Mar 30 2015, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Mar 30 2015, 07:44 PM)
Curiousity, it seems they're also priced to discourage use there, or at least taxed hard to put money into government coffers.
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Discourage? Here is like every other person at the age of 30's and above are still smoking like a chimney. My friend, being married for 20 years, still gotta hide his cigg under the sparewheel before going home. An hour before we leave, he'd be prepared to stop fagging and start chewing onions
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post Mar 30 2015, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(motherker @ Mar 29 2015, 05:52 PM)
Guys, just discovered my Gaga is leaking engine oil.
Any idea what's the problem or where the leak is coming from and rough estimate to fix it?

It looks wet and fresh starting from the driver side of the engine  from near one of the pulleys till d oil filter

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Looks like camshaft bearing oil seal. Not worthy to just change that seals, yet u gotta remove everthing. Might as well do it 1 shot with timing belt if ti's already near/way pass due.
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post Mar 30 2015, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(motherker @ Mar 30 2015, 08:07 PM)
thanks for the reply bro.
my rides 5 years old, 43k km on the odo.

is it safe to wait till 50k and change the timing belt together or should i do it at 45k km?
car has been driven hard at times, but mostly used for short distance trips only.
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5 years old, meaning you have not change timing belt/bearing oil seals at all for the past 5 years since you're only about 40k. Better do it the nearest OCI 1 shot, better yet tomorrow before GST
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post Apr 1 2015, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Apr 1 2015, 12:15 AM)
Hello there,

You can give a try on NGK Iridium IX Spark Plugs  flex.gif
I'm using it also  rclxms.gif
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Pleasant surprise blink.gif

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post Apr 1 2015, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(zacharnie @ Apr 1 2015, 09:03 AM)
Need expert advise, I'm using Saga 1.3 FLX manual 5 months old with 5.4Km , earlier while parking the car in the office it suddenly stopped the engine . Tried to start up the engine it cranks but engine won't statup up =( 
-All lights working
-battery light is ok
-engine cranks

But still no response.. any help is appreciated..
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Keep cranking do not release the key for the next 2 minutes. Do not touch the gas pedal at all, do not switch off the key. Just keep cranking until it's up.
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post Apr 1 2015, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(zacharnie @ Apr 1 2015, 11:56 AM)
Hi Jim,
Any remedy to this issue? we of course don't want see our self being stranded on one of our long drive. We love our SAGA but this is painful for us owners..

Thanks!
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QUOTE(wankel @ Apr 1 2015, 12:00 PM)
To check it it's the issue carry some water and if the problem occurs pour water on the sensor to cool it, if the car then starts it'd be a fair bet that it should be replaced. They shouldn't be expensive but I'm not familiar enough yet to even know its location on a Campro engine. Many cars of all different makes suffer from this issue.
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Slam your forehead on the steeringwheel whilst cranking the car non-stop so people won't see your face whistling.gif My car had never fail to start. Only take longer to start when crank position is out or overflow whistling.gif
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post Apr 1 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Apr 1 2015, 01:16 PM)
Wah, lowered until that much...can drive ka? I 1.5 fingers gap I also cannot tahan and increase to 2.

1 finger gap I can't imagine.

You need to increase the length of the end links and with such low clearance your ARB is already on load before it even flex.
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Bai VIOS. No matter how low also can whistling.gif

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post Apr 3 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(daMieNyuZry @ Apr 3 2015, 02:03 PM)
Add

Toll : RM82.60 JB - KL (2 ways)
Fuel : RM100 2 ways also

Regret moved to JB now yawn.gif
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post Apr 3 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Apr 3 2015, 02:31 PM)
Sometime my car having similar problem, but mine engine not suddenly stopped. Its like when i bring girls go for a tea, after done tea time, press remote teet-teet unlock car, ready to show drifting skills, then when i crank the car it wont start, so embarrassing. For my Gaga, if i keep cranking without turning off the key like someone mentioned, it wont start no matter how long i crank. I found out whenever i faced this problem, i just turn off the key, look at my watch and count for 30 seconds, then try again, VOILA!! It started.  blink.gif This is the only way works for my Gaga.  biggrin.gif
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Next time if same thing happened, gimme a call whilst holding the key on the switch continue cranking. I'll come over to your place. By the time I reach there, sure u ady drove away liao whistling.gif The reason is, many pipu doesn't even wait until the TDC sensor crank in place or crank until the combustion chamber blow dry. I know I know, cranking for long usually people will start to get agitated and start to worry if continue crank the battery will drain.

The longest a crank is 5 minutes traight without rest laugh.gif But usually within 30seconds already hidup 1 nod.gif
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post Apr 3 2015, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 3 2015, 04:13 PM)
you missed him called  you @ 12 midnight kacaued u piap piap isit?  laugh.gif
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I usually slept before 12am whistling.gif My piap² time usually is morning. If you're not aware the siokness, should try. Day time can see ever so clearly, sunlight is so blend with the skin color compare to florescent/LED ray. Other than that, neighbors ady went to work, kids ady went to school. The entire house is like even better than hotel, piap² loud loud oso no1 bother about you whistling.gif If still embarrass, can pump up techno music to cover up any "rattling sound" emit from the house and or your piap² partner. U wanna do it at kitchen oso can, plonk some aiskrim makes a lot more excitement; bring along berakpas at living room also can. If double storey house can do it at the stairway, got echo sound dem siok whistling.gif

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post Apr 4 2015, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(WTFisLYN @ Apr 4 2015, 06:36 AM)
I know someone who has SAGA SV MT. About 1 1/2 years old. So far has replaced fuel pump and the whole air filter box set too. Oh yes. Starter too. Is this normal? Or lemon car? Scared to get Proton because of this. Need taiko advice.
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Each and every model of other car maker will also have 1 or 2 unit of lemon. I would like to make a guess on your friend's SV

1) Change fuel pump due to hard to start car after engine got hot. Often stranded at car park for 1/2 hour before the car can start. SC suggest to change fuel pump.
2) After change of fuel pump, still having trouble to start car. Everytime after lunch go back carpark wanna start car, it just wont start! Again, SC in view of already changed fuel pump, might as well change starter.
3) After all effort, there's nothing much can be done except change the air filter box. I don't see the relation of whether the car can start or not, may be during service SC technician accidentally break it, had to replace 1.

Guess what? After change of fuel pump, starter and the bloody air box, your friend still having trouble to start the engine after lunch hour/long distance drive whistling.gif Ask your friend whether he/she got come lurk around LYN GaGa thread. If not, better start now. We're the bunch who bought the same lemon car with the same lemon juice at the same amount of lemon trouble. The hard to crank start trouble is already discussed and explained many times due to injector overflow which happened quite often to hi-power output(in comparison with cubic capacity displacement) engines, also can caused by TDC Sensor(Top Dead Centre) which the engine management need to find the firing sequence by reading the crankshaft position that indicate when the #1 piston is reaching the ceiling of the combustion chamber, for initiating the firing sequence of your separberak. Is it bad? Yes it is. Is it the engine design defect? No not really. Most of the time is caused by local weather/bad fuel quality/bad habits of driver(if you remember your grandfather always like to pump the accelerator before switch off engine, where they explain this will charge up the battery abit to get ready for the next start up, which totally not required by new generation engines because the alternator charging is limited by electronic cut out).

So, all these lemon problems are all from the same lemon car with some basic lemon expertise, we can make lemonade a joyful drink. WTFisLYN please suggest your friend to join our TT and come lurk here more often. If any problem he/she face, do come over and use the search function. We do care about the car and we know the car characteristic like the back of our hand. Please buy with confident and enjoy the car.
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QUOTE(wankel @ Apr 4 2015, 08:26 AM)
Well put David, what you say is quite a reality.
Years ago in my car industry days I was told of a chap whose engine was smoking excessively, so the workshop decided to fit a replacement engine, after that was fitted they found the auto transmission was no longer operating properly so they replaced that too. Then after much head scratching it was determined the real fault was a failed diaphragm in the vacuum modulator for the transmission, so the customer ended up copping a $3000+ bill over a $30 part, and the real tale was kept from him.
I have personally found a bad wire on a friend's fuel cut-off solenoid on his carburettor that a year earlier had cost him a fortune when a mechanic  failed to diagnose it and did the simple thing by sending it off for a unneeded rebuild, jiggling the wire was all it took to decide the problem but remember tradesmen do tend to be better at lifting heavy things and smoking than most other pursuits.
I like to do all my own work.
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Kudos to Mr.DIY effort notworthy.gif
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post Apr 5 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(WTFisLYN @ Apr 5 2015, 10:26 AM)
To bad THE OWNER has troubles in middle of nowhere and stranded. Must find nearest mechanics which are all usually SLAUGHTERING MONSTERS vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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First of all, it is confirmed that your friend got chopped by the shop. Battery itself covered by warranty 18 months. Stranded by the road side, had it tow to your trustworthy mechanic, better yet back to Plotong. If your friend refused to start reading here, no 1 can ever help him/her. I rest my case here and do not know how to teach your friend not to be chopped.
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QUOTE(WTFisLYN @ Apr 5 2015, 03:41 PM)
Any idea about the prices David. Wanna hear your expertise on these.
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1) Air box indeed is around that price range. But, why would you change it? I still can't brain it.

2) How does fuel pump not fall under warranty? Unless your friend never service in Plotong at all. Can be settled within RM500

3) I still do not believe the starter can die just like that. Yes a recon unit is around that price range at RM250.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 5 2015, 04:12 PM)
Just now on the way back from Sepang, after passing through Putrajaya toll, saw a Sawi and City stopped at roadside. The Savvy is slightly protruding out towards the slow lane, with a wheel missing from the rear axle. Turns out the Savvy is facing what david faced before, spindle patah, then the tayar go faster than the car.

When reached home, I go goyang goyang all my tayars just to do rough checking. laugh.gif
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sweat.gif no 1 will ever going to believe it will happen to their car, until it happened doh.gif

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