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9kingsir
post Mar 20 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Mar 20 2015, 07:57 AM)
Hello traders. I want to ask for opinion. About trading on news.

More often, i see after big news especially eurusd, like nfp and fomc, the market will be very volatile.

But usually and generally, it will move in one big direction, either up or down after the news. Problem is, we seldom can accurately forcast where it will be heading after the figure came out. Up or down? We see many traders lost thier money because they open position hoping to profit in one direction After the news.

To overcome this, could we open buy and sell position before the news, and when we hv confirmed where is the msrket is heading, we close the position tht is against us and let the other one ride the trend?

Example, open buy and sell at the same rate, same allocation and same leverage, when we see sudden jump upwards like 20 - 30 pips after the news, we close the sell position at lost and let the buy ppsition ride the trend.

Theoritically seems plausible. any1 done it before? Or izzit also a recipe for disaster?
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this strategy has a fail proof...

if every time u do this, the only way profit is the exit timing.... entry time no problem..

some ppl play swing in this way...
Alissa_1989
post Mar 21 2015, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(9kingsir @ Mar 20 2015, 01:33 PM)
you dont have a Relationship manager?

its entering 2nd week... will be done in 1-2 days time..

Lets see after next Monday
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alright, thanks for your info. My past relationship manager is no longer active in forex. I asked online chat, their response was always not helpful and seem like don't know and behave as "don't care" much about the issue. Ask in this forum is much more helpful because many experts (sifu) here.
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post Mar 21 2015, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Mar 20 2015, 07:57 AM)
Hello traders. I want to ask for opinion. About trading on news.

More often, i see after big news especially eurusd, like nfp and fomc, the market will be very volatile.

But usually and generally, it will move in one big direction, either up or down after the news. Problem is, we seldom can accurately forcast where it will be heading after the figure came out. Up or down? We see many traders lost thier money because they open position hoping to profit in one direction After the news.

To overcome this, could we open buy and sell position before the news, and when we hv confirmed where is the msrket is heading, we close the position tht is against us and let the other one ride the trend?

Example, open buy and sell at the same rate, same allocation and same leverage, when we see sudden jump upwards like 20 - 30 pips after the news, we close the sell position at lost and let the buy ppsition ride the trend.

Theoritically seems plausible. any1 done it before? Or izzit also a recipe for disaster?
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Yes, until i realized I was more profitable in a slow and steady way
without the news, news gives us thrill, gives us pips but in a long
run you are just gambling with the acc, not really advisable,
spreads and volatility just eats off your profits laugh.gif
MrPoppyplants
post Mar 21 2015, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Mar 20 2015, 07:57 AM)
Hello traders. I want to ask for opinion. About trading on news.

More often, i see after big news especially eurusd, like nfp and fomc, the market will be very volatile.

But usually and generally, it will move in one big direction, either up or down after the news. Problem is, we seldom can accurately forcast where it will be heading after the figure came out. Up or down? We see many traders lost thier money because they open position hoping to profit in one direction After the news.

To overcome this, could we open buy and sell position before the news, and when we hv confirmed where is the msrket is heading, we close the position tht is against us and let the other one ride the trend?

Example, open buy and sell at the same rate, same allocation and same leverage, when we see sudden jump upwards like 20 - 30 pips after the news, we close the sell position at lost and let the buy ppsition ride the trend.

Theoritically seems plausible. any1 done it before? Or izzit also a recipe for disaster?
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You open a buy AND a sell position at the same price is NO DIFFERENT from sitting on your hands and not trading at all. But you are on the losing end because of paid spreads for the 2 orders.

If you absolutely HAVE to trade the news, your idea of letting your winning position ride the trend and closing the losing position is exactly the same as opening a trade in the market direction AFTER the news. If you can't see this, then I don't know what to say.
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post Mar 21 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Pinnacle1295 @ Mar 20 2015, 08:16 AM)
So you are saying BUY & SELL @ same price?

(1) Don't think you are able to get same price due to the spreads,

(2) Assuming you are able to get the same entry price for BUY & SELL, then price moves UP by 30-pips and you close SELL position for a loss -30pips. Whether price will continue to move UP is another matter. But every time you will have a REAL LOSS in hand of 30-pips if you trade this method.

Since you plan to close the wrong position AFTER a 30-pips movement, then you might as well wait for the price to move 30-pips either directions and SELL or BUY depending on the moved direction .... meaning only 1 position.

You should look at using BUY-STOP & SELL-STOP.
Say the current price is 1.0050. Set BUY-STOP @ 1.0080 & SELL-STOP @ 1.0020.

Just my opinion, though.
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This is correct.

This way of trading is called Straddling.

The downside to this is the huge spreads applied to currency pairs and also slippage. At the release of big news, there will ALWAYS be increased spread and slippage. This means your buy-stop might end up being triggered at 1.0095 and your sell-stop being triggered at 1.0005. This gets more dramatic at news releases like NFP.

Another downside is whip saw action at news release which will trigger BOTH buy and sell stops with huge spreads and bad slippage, leaving you with a huge loss before market even starts to move at all.

This post has been edited by MrPoppyplants: Mar 21 2015, 01:24 PM
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post Mar 21 2015, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Alissa_1989 @ Mar 20 2015, 05:11 AM)
Do you know why fxprimus start to decline Malaysia account ? I found it when i start to open a practice account as below
https://account.fxprimus.com/en/open-an-acc...ractice-account .
In additional to that, if I enter main fx primus website, there is pop-up window blocking Malaysia IP  to see the content of website. The pop-up window refer us to another link based on the reason that they are migrate in order to get CySec regulation. Even though the pop-up window said it last for 1 week, but it has been occurred there more than 3 weeks. My main point is how can a newbie willing to open account if he cannot see and read thru the content of main website ?
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Give Alpari a try?

Anyone uses them btw and are we allowed to advertise/introduce as broker here?

Thanks!
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post Mar 21 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ObeLIsK @ Mar 21 2015, 01:58 PM)
Give Alpari a try?

Anyone uses them btw and are we allowed to advertise/introduce as broker here?

Thanks!
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Why would you reccommend Alpari after what happened recently?
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post Mar 21 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(MrPoppyplants @ Mar 21 2015, 02:03 PM)
Why would you reccommend Alpari after what happened recently?
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Sorry, may I know what happened to Alpari recently as I've been using them for a while now with lil problems - deposit/withdrawal was smooth.

However, I've only been with them for a short 3 months at the moment so any sharing on it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
9kingsir
post Mar 22 2015, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(ObeLIsK @ Mar 21 2015, 04:45 PM)
Sorry, may I know what happened to Alpari recently as I've been using them for a while now with lil problems - deposit/withdrawal was smooth.

However, I've only been with them for a short 3 months at the moment so any sharing on it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
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right now Alpari is entering into insolvency..

Mean bye2 soon.. get your money out now!!!
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post Mar 23 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(9kingsir @ Mar 22 2015, 06:00 AM)
right now Alpari is entering into insolvency..

Mean bye2 soon.. get your money out now!!!
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Thanks so much for the sharing!

I was however told Alpari UK and its other counterpart (Russia/Mauritius) are different?

Any way I can find out more and is InstaFx or XM the way to go then?
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post Mar 24 2015, 10:08 AM

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FXPRIMUS or FXCM..which one is reputable and easier interms of Deposit & withdrawal?
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post Mar 24 2015, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ Mar 24 2015, 10:08 AM)
FXPRIMUS or FXCM..which one is reputable and easier interms of Deposit & withdrawal?
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I prefer Primus. Up to you whether depo and wd transaction using local or other option.
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post Mar 24 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ Mar 24 2015, 10:08 AM)
FXPRIMUS or FXCM..which one is reputable and easier interms of Deposit & withdrawal?
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My experience with FXCM withdrawal .... 2 working days.
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post Mar 24 2015, 04:48 PM

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how about FXCM?
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post Mar 24 2015, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ Mar 24 2015, 04:48 PM)
how about FXCM?
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You mean FXPRIMUS, right?

9kingsir
post Mar 24 2015, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Pinnacle1295 @ Mar 24 2015, 05:00 PM)
You mean FXPRIMUS, right?
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fxprimus withdrawal between 1-3 days depending your option of withdrawal
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post Mar 25 2015, 04:58 PM

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hi traders, a sharing of a daily analysis video by Forex100 Academy Chief Chart Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-Y55_65qE


» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Personally i think that market is running a major retracement so I'm looking forward for NZDUSD (might have a short at 0.7807)cuz still doesnt seem like having any sign of bull for kiwi and still bias on bull for dollar but not so strong since the last FOMC smile.gif

This post has been edited by louiehky: Mar 25 2015, 04:59 PM
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post Mar 26 2015, 10:22 PM

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May I know why some broker offers up to 5 and 3 decimal points for selected pairs while some offers only 4 and 2? What's the pros and cons?
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post Mar 26 2015, 10:42 PM

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post Mar 27 2015, 11:45 AM

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what is the setting for MA?

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