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Except Alaqar is not related to heathcare.. only the hospital building.. 
Er.. if you own the hospital building you are related to healthcare.. 
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:10 PM) Lol.. that is based on 1 divvy payment from last Q... Let me run some studies.. anyway YTL group is more what I would consider a blue chip.. but I will run it anyway let's see how it goes The price fell from 2.50 to 1.50 now after they decided to cut the divvy with no reason... Those holding it for divvy must be cursing.. this is one blue chip which can actually lose money.  |
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Mar 13 2015, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:12 PM) Lol... Yes of course.. this means if oil prices drop.. your rental is more at risk. If lets say you own a shop lot and rent it to a OnG outfit.. means you are related to OnG then? Related must mean you have a 'share' of the industry's up and down... if healthcare in demand, then healthcare earnings go up.. will the divvy from Alaqar follow suit? No.. then no relation...  If healthcare is more in demand, ALAQAR has more justification to raise the rent |
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:14 PM) Got a few actually.. hospital chap lap.. Like which ones? and BTW.. if you held on to YTLPOWR for ten years you'd still not be losing money |
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:16 PM) ALAQAR cannot raise rent.. cause sudah sign 20 years tenancy agreement.. Eh.. we are talking about risk.. the risk of default goes up and down depending on the sector and profitablility of the hospital (among other things.) So if they earns lots and lots of money, the rent still stay the same. Why do you think they make a REIT from their building if not to secure their operating cost. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:19 PM) Lol... No but the point is, and still remains.. you won't actually lose money if you invest in blue chips 10 years.. so what would your earning be? Can beat FD? This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:26 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:23 PM) Yeah.. if you mean by defensive yes, if related no.. cause you don't get a share of the increased profits. Actually REITs have crap volume.. I've seen less than 100 lots so many times. And the price is not all that high either. There are so many days when the entire best price sell/buy queue was worth about 5K lol This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:29 PM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2015, 02:29 PM) So last nite you say there is no 'wrong' price. Bad price = paid too much, you lose opportunity costNow there is 'bad' price. Bad price and wrong price got what difference? Good price = got a bargain, will make more money. Wrong price = there isn't one. This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:32 PM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM) LOL! So it does.. maybe there will be more liquidity then Market needs more investors like you. |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2015, 02:34 PM) you sure? Look at Skpetro, Armada .... There is no sure thing in the market .... just have a gut .... risk involved in all investment .... If you want long term steady stocks... I would prefer buy TMS ... LOL Those aren't blue chips. Blue chips are like Maybank and Sunway.. and a lot of REITs (SUNREIT, IGBREIT). I am such a bad influence ... but market up 10pts or drop 50pts ... This company price still the same .... even Minetech the same ... lol buy 10cents, sell 11cents... earn 10% lo ...xinghe also can ma ... asiabio now also cheap ... Take someone off the street and ask them "have you heard of this company" ? and then if a lot of people say "yes" then it's a blue chip This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:36 PM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2015, 02:36 PM) Make sure you don't buy WRONG stock at WRONG price. True enough.. there are wrong counters.. but there are not wrong prices |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2015, 02:37 PM) i see.. CIMB consider as bluechip bo? Genting? lol .... Yes, if you bought either 10 years ago.. you would not be losing money now. GENTING is up 142% since 10 years ago. CIMB is up 117%. And that is not including dividends, pure capital appreciation |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2015, 02:46 PM) 10years ago ... i was sucking milk in classroom crying like a baby only ... dont know how to do investment.. know how to play pokemon in gameboy ... take mummy's money go buy battery only ... That's why.. if/when you have kids, stick a small amount of money in a blue chip for them. When they grow up, it should be worth a lot or in the absolute worst case situation you will lose a small amount of money The risk/reward ratio for blue chip long term holding is pretty good This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:49 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 02:47 PM) So...let's buy FGV... LOL.. almost no one on the street knows what FGV is This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:50 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 02:54 PM) sure or not... Seriously.. try it if you don't believe me.. go to a bus stop somewhere, say something like "excuse me, do you know where FGV is?" - you will get a blank stare usually.Now if you try it again with Maybank.. or CIMB.. or Digi.. or Maxis.. Maybe among your crowd and culture you will know.. but outside your circle no one really knows or cares about FGV |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 02:58 PM) u dun say FGV...u say FELDA But you are not considering buying FELDA you are considering buying FGV |
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 05:24 PM) I really like your super confidence to our Malaysian blue chip loh.. The evidence bears it out  |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 05:25 PM) Remember Transmile? Never heard of it. Chances are anyone on the street would not have heard of it either. |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 05:30 PM) Unker Ling punya wor, not blue enough? Or Chua CD punya baru "blue" It's not a blue chip if no one's ever heard of it  |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 05:34 PM) I just asked my office tealady Cool.. ask her whether she has heard of Maybank or Maxis or Sunway or Digi. I wish I had a tealady like that. I'd buy anything she could recognize she said she never heard of IHH, KL Kepong, MISC, PPB and SapuraKencana Petroleum. Now...go play with birdies in the park don't kacau sini |
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