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post Feb 22 2018, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2018, 10:12 AM)
Reit are "battled" across due to rate hike recently, as well as potential mall and office space oversupply.

I guess reit market may be correcting to old day yield of 6.x~7.x% before bottoming.
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I m waiting this moment almost for few years already....
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post Feb 22 2018, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Feb 21 2018, 11:23 PM)
entered pavreit at 1.38. next top up at 1.28.

is there something going on that we do not know? such heavy selldown today
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Got mine @1.34 . I bought very small only for my portfolio percentage.

Beside the da men under perform and the interest rate hike, I guess there is no announcement yet. Just don't rush to buy, in bear market trend for reits , plenty of chances.

Hopefully we can see net yield around 7 percent Ish....

Last few year all the reits holder syok by the capital gain instead of dividend collection, now after the complacent of low interest rates for so long (after so many years of wind talk want increase rate) , it is time to revert back to yield 6-8 percents range for all the reits.
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post Feb 22 2018, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Feb 22 2018, 07:59 AM)
The DPU for PAVREIT has been stagnant for the last 3 years. The purchase of DAMEN mall and intermark mall has high operating expenses / maintenance expenses hence it drives down the net property income for last few quarter. Lower net property income = lower DPU.

From the latest QR we can see that intermark mall has started contributing. Occupancy rate is healthy as well. Just have to monitor the operating expenses of DAMEN Mall.

With the acquisition of Pavilion Elite, i believe it will bring more income to PAVREIT. For the Farenheit 88 mall, i guess there will be acquisition plan in the pipeline.

Long term prospect is still good, just have to buy-in in the correct price.
One simple method is to benchmark MGS yield. For PAVREIT, personally i use MGS yield + 1.5%. REIT is sensitive to interest rate environment. If interest rate increase, bond & REIT goes down.

Whereby comparing to IGBREIT, the DPU is growing every year. Hence the share price is much more "stable" than PAVREIT.
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the last time I visited intermark mall there is a lot of improvement in term of trafic....guess still doing ok?

I dont know about Damen mall though.
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post Feb 22 2018, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 22 2018, 10:23 AM)
For malls reit, outside of so called "top malls", I won't consider at all.
In current situation, IGBreit is actually blessed with no "diversification", and only has the only "top malls", which spared from secondary malls oversupply.
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so never consider Pavreit ? tongue.gif

QUOTE(pisces88 @ Feb 22 2018, 10:51 AM)
Yea nt gonna rush it.. Jus gonna buy some n keep for long term.

Today looks better, as of now is 1.36
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hmm.gif ....see how the price behave these 1-2 weeks

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2018, 11:31 AM)
Damen not doing well either..
Not many crowd..
Only F&B got some business.. Others outlets all dying 😈
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post Mar 1 2018, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 28 2018, 04:54 PM)
I do not think there will be another 0.5% hike further.
Many businesses may suffer if rate continue to go higher.
Despite good GDP number, in reality not all businesses are not doing greatly, recent Q report of many listed companies only reporting so so earning across.

Axreit should see some DPU improvement with new Nestle warehouse income,
MQreit - should see more and less a stable DPU. 

The reit which can provide stable DPU in this reit bear market are essential to get through this difficult time.
Top of the list currently is
IGBreit
YTLreit

I do not see FD rate can go beyond 4.5~5%.
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very very true on the bold statement. Just read Theedge news you can easily spot most of the company in bursa declining earning result and below many IB forecast.

it will be nightmare for those overloaded mortgage holder if our FD goes beyond 4.5% hmm.gif tongue.gif
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post Mar 1 2018, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 28 2018, 10:02 PM)
Personally think CMMT had been pushed down excessively. With 7-8 cents DPU, it's about 7% yield.  Even with 30% discount to DPU, it's still 5%+.
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any plan for cmmt to revitalise the SW mall? I do think it is quite attractive if they have some solid plan on it. MRT certainly not enough to attract more crowd.
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 1 2018, 09:41 AM)
I think for SW they have their hands tied, half the lots does not belong to them.. so it will be difficult to coordinate revival plan. The only thing they are doing is the overhead pedestrian bridge to BTS..might backfire and more people go to BTS instead (idea from capitaland revival of Junction 8 and IMM in SG)

The best they can do, but again their hands are tied, is to demolish and rebuilt into integrated mall/office/hotel/condo like what they did to Funan mall in SG. Hotel/condo/office will be given to developer, and in exchange you get a brand new mall at no cost, and DPU remain stable as developer is paying the rent during construction.

Owner of CMMT is capitaland SG.. which is quite capable. But because of SW I sold all my units at 1.45 previously.
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thanks for your insight notworthy.gif

I almost forget only half of the lots belong to them rclxub.gif mega_shok.gif

the price now is quite ok already, but below RM1 certainly possible drool.gif
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post Mar 1 2018, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 1 2018, 10:28 AM)
There is still residual value in SW..valued at 0.58 bil in case the business tutup.

CMMT price is currently 20% below NAV.. ~ 0.8 bil discount.

I think all the negatives is nearly priced in..  tongue.gif
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I not greedy. Nearly is good enough for me tongue.gif. I know many here want catch the bottom tongue.gif.
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post Mar 2 2018, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 1 2018, 10:40 AM)
So sudah beli?  tongue.gif
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haven't. still thinking lol laugh.gif

still thinking wat to add these few days
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post Mar 6 2018, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Mar 3 2018, 06:55 AM)
congrats on your successful timing the reit market  rclxms.gif

hell yeah, this nestle is crazy, valuation is like nothing to nestle's investors, they just buy and buy and nothing else.  laugh.gif
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Market is small. All "fun" manager no where to park all end up chasing those blue chips even though pe 40+ with little growth.
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post Mar 8 2018, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2018, 11:27 AM)
Picked up mqreit at 1.06 and cmmt 0.995 time for warchest to go to work.. 7-8% yield keep long term is good enough for me..

Currently 3 reit is trading at ~8% yield.. mqreit, cmmt n hektar... But i see their dpu will fall somewhat to 7-7.5% yield. Still highest in the malaysia reit universe.

Will continue to add for every 2-3c downwards, my warchest should be able to last even they retrace another 30% downwards. tongue.gif

Coincidence.. both reit managed by capitaland and hektar by fraser .. all sg company.
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pick up

100 lot mqreit 1.05
100 lot cmmt 1.01

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give u all some confidence. lai laugh.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Mar 8 2018, 05:45 AM)
so weird that sunreit didn't fall much....

current MSG 10 years is 4%.

according to current environment, to give a spread of 2% (from net yield) for excellent asset class, 3% for moderate asset class, and 4% for high risk asset class. i have the followings of today's closing price.

axreit 6.1% slightly undervalue (target 6%)
cmmt 7.4%  slightly overvalue (target 7.5%)
sunreit 5.4% highly overvalue (target 6.5%)
hektar 7.1% slightly overvalue (target 7%)
mqreit 7.3% moderately undervalue (target 7%)
igbreit 5.6% moderately overvalue (target 6%)
pavreit 5.8% overvalue (target 6.5%)
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nice yield analysis there tongue.gif
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So many igb lover.....
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post Mar 9 2018, 09:43 AM

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added axreit and IGBreit tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mopster @ Mar 9 2018, 03:18 PM)
REITS Cheap Sales temporary on hold sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
just when BNM hold rate at 3.25%
now need to wait patiently for the next news to pressure the price again..
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i also see the news then dare to top up want laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2018, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(return78 @ Mar 21 2018, 10:16 PM)
CMMT
No. of shares issued 2,882,300
Issue Price Malaysian Ringgit (MYR)  1.603
http://klse.i3investor.com/additionalListi...246_5188731.jsp

Sad case for CMRM staff.
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sad for staff , but at least probably good bargain for investor hmm.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Mar 22 2018, 10:36 AM)
time to collect already. average down.
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collect wat ar?
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post Mar 23 2018, 12:08 AM

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Pavreit lol!
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post Mar 23 2018, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 23 2018, 02:22 PM)
Well at least CMMT is doing something..
They seems to be positive about the future of the mall...
Especially after MRT completed..
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I also think the location still have hope. I got a little bit of stake on this but only time will tell whether this mall can turnaround or not. How's the flow in Tropicana? Hmm...
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add another 100 lots IGBreit hmm.gif tongue.gif

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