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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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guy3288
post May 20 2015, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 20 2015, 08:15 AM)
Take it easy. I think now easier to buy.
Give you some hints, the agent bank told me I am not the only "panic" seller ( for ASW,ASM,AS1M) brows.gif
Just look at Plumberly, easily bought RM5k
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surprisingly not many units available despite the panicky news... only managed 8k ASM at 9.30Am MBB. No AWS and AS1M.

Tried again at CIMB during lunch break, totally none at all.



QUOTE(hyelbaine @ May 20 2015, 03:32 PM)
And yet ASNB gets the blame when people find out about such "syndicates"  rclxub.gif
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got syndicates buying??


QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 20 2015, 03:56 PM)
but nowadays I think less staff doing it  hmm.gif  the old days quite a lot I hear doing esp year 2003-2006 sweat.gif
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Yeah now they are more discreet, i dont see ASM books lying around anymore, but cant really call it syndicate, it is not an organised kind of things, just if their mood good and willing, they give special services...


QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 20 2015, 06:10 PM)
I don't know about this practice and I don't have insider working for me. Instead I "buy" directly from unit holders and pay 1% premium to the "seller" last time. This is how I accumulate my units in ASX.
I've shared how I "buy" in this thread before (the previous thread).
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I am surprised you can "buy direct" from unit holder and pay 1% premium some more!!

In actual fact what you bought may not be your seller's units at all. The lag time from the system is significant enough, that you really can't synchronise or time it.

I have experienced that first hand on a day when CIMB banks were all down for quite a long period.., cant do any transaction at all.... and i was buying the ASX at MBB when i met a couple desperate to cash out some RM20k of their precious ASX. I talked to them and the tellers to synchronise the sale and my purchase......as we were at the counter
side by side. I saw the lag time there, they already sold theirs, and my teller's repeated buy orders were just unsuccessful.......until quite some time later....

I got some RM10k or so then, but the way i see the repeated attempts keying in the buy order, i am not convinced those 10k units are even theirs.........



QUOTE(prince_mk @ May 20 2015, 08:05 PM)
I wonder can i transfer some Public Mutual funds to FSM platform? and these funds were not offered by FSM.
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You can and you get to buy FSM UT at 0% fee! So the transfer is like FOC.
Of course in FSM there is no Public Mutual funds, so you just buy other UTS available in FSM.





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QUOTE(aurum_alchemist @ May 21 2015, 07:51 PM)
have you guys ever thought about inflation rate in Malaysia?
with all this 1mdb issue, ringgit value going down...

is keeping money in FD or ASX worth it?
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QUOTE(aurum_alchemist @ May 21 2015, 07:51 PM)
have you guys ever thought about inflation rate in Malaysia?
with all this 1mdb issue, ringgit value going down...

is keeping money in FD or ASX worth it?
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Worth it......eg if you have RM4M put in long term FD 4.5%, your passive income is RM15k a month.

And with ASX is even better , more than RM21k! Why bother about inflation rate?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ May 22 2015, 01:51 PM)
I'm with u However, some Ppl have different risk tolerance
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If our economy really go bust, ASX Dividends sure fall.

I doubt it would come to a stage when all our ASX money disappear just like that.
By then i think FD would also be similarly affected.....so no difference la.


QUOTE(utellme @ May 22 2015, 03:28 PM)
unless you are bumi where you can buy into ASB, IMO, this is not a wise investment plan just putting the 4M into PNB bond.  With 4M, you can move 50% of this money to invest  into others thing like property and buy some good blue chip shares like Maybank, PB and Genting.
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With ASB you get additional 1-2%, risks would be the same also no..?
Properties and shares are a must have too, they are just different category.

But properties need alot more effort, expenses at every corner, return subject to tax some more


QUOTE(plumberly @ May 23 2015, 11:03 AM)
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Any good news on opening ASX account for your kids?
Still no quota?

Cheerio.
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thanks, you got some too right?

No, still no luck for new AS1M acc.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ May 24 2015, 05:27 PM)
I wud reckon 6% is the Baseline
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like that can continue to buy some more!
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Was at Shah Alam, left my kid at INTEC for JPA registration.

I went round town, tried the ASNB Shah Alam - told same thing! no quota?!

Then surprisingly Pos Office Seksyen 14 said can open. easy with IC only, but kid must be there. so done one, one more to go.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 2 2015, 08:00 AM)
Wait. So ASNB refused your application to open an account for your kid but that Post Office said no problem? I thought previously you open with ASNB?
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yes asnb persiaran damai shah alam also said full no quota. then i went buy stamp, simply asked and surprised the girl said yes, can open, but kid must go. but her drawer only got the yellow book stated 'Dewasa', she nearly told me under 18 cannot, i insisted can ,she went checking then did it.


yeah prev. got kids ASW and ASM, AS1M kids tadak





QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 2 2015, 08:10 AM)
Which 1 u managed to open?
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still got a youngest kid AS1M to open ,one day when got chance....





QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 2 2015, 08:22 AM)
CONGRATULATIONS!

Nice feeling after all the frustrations, right? I was in that journey until recently.

I really think that no quota excuse is just damn XXXX, YYYYY, ZZZZZ!

Cheerio.
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yeah i think so, any branch if willing to try help open, sure can get one, but most are instructed cannot open
quota full.


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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jun 2 2015, 03:55 PM)
Persiaran Damai Shah Alam? Didn't know that ASNB has a branch there. I only of ASNB branch in the umno building beside TNB. Unless I got my directions in Shah Alam all wrong than I apologize  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 17 2015, 01:22 PM

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got some as1m and asw today, i think whoever tries nowadays high chance can get.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 17 2015, 08:59 PM)
Bro, how much u get today?
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post Jun 20 2015, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 20 2015, 03:43 PM)
Just speaking my mind here and hope to get some enlightening idea here. Ha.

I have ASM & AS1M. My wife and kids have one each, either ASM, ASW or AS1M.

Question is, should we get the other ASX which we each don't have?

Why?

ASW has a slightly higher dividend rate than the rest. But now they are all coming to the same level. So, my lazy muscles tell me no need to get more, as long as each of us has at least one ASX account.

Your view?

Cheerio.
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also if you dont want the counter girl to see your substantial balance, better get more books and use different books each time you go.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 20 2015, 04:22 PM)
I suppose u have 3 books
If u want to top up, u will (i) choose which book to top up or (ii) handover all 3 books to the teller to decide?
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i usually give them all 3 books, each color one, tell them i want red first ,.. trying to balance the 3 colors.
but red always difficult like yesterday i got to accept all 16k in yellow, end of the day any book pun tak apa...



QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 20 2015, 04:23 PM)
Noted and thanks.

My "so big" amount will be 88,999. People will go to the 14th floor for that? Ha. Just kidding.
Good to impress pretty counter girls mah. Ha. Just kidding.

I think they are observant enough to add up the amounts in their heads and say to me, "how come you have so many books and the total amount is still so little?" Ha.

Cheerio.
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The balance is always visible in the last page, it can be embarassing when they say wah sudah banyak mahu lagi etc. i have disproportionate amount on different books, as previously i could only top up for kids under 18 and myself. Now i could top up for my kids above 18 and also for my wife's book.

the most they can add up is the 3 books there with them, i like to believe she can not see all our books in one screen at the same time. Or she could really see them all??

say you have 5 ASM books, your self and 4 kids, do you think all the accounts will show up there when you go top up on only one book?


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post Jun 29 2015, 01:48 PM

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got some asw and asm today, but looks like units are not so readily available nowadays. panic selling stopped already?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 29 2015, 01:58 PM)
How much u managed to invest today?
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wah like that me also old liao, not that i am young he he..

but i thought last time i read, best is to deposit end of month, no matter how early you bank in for that month, you wont earn any interest for that month, bukan kah macam tu?????

something like... buy ASM on 1.7.2015, the ASM dividend will only start
counting from 1.8.2015 onwards.

To get interest calculated for month July 2015, must deposit money in June right??



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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 30 2015, 11:34 PM)
Incorrect
If u deposit on 1st Jul, tat will b yo min balance from 1st to 31st Jul assume u dun deposit n withdraw a single cent
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ok thanks,

but if you deposit on 2 July 2015, the july dividend fro that NEW top up, tak dapat right? dividend starts from august only right?

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 30 2015, 11:41 PM)
Example
1st Jul Bal - RM10k
2nd Jul - U top up RM1k
3rd Jul until 31st Jul - no transaction
1st Aug until 31st Aug - no transaction
U will get Dividend for Jul based on RM10k bal ony
U will get Dividend for Aug based on RM11k bal
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ok thanks, make it easy to remember

Best day to top up = 1st day of the month, no loss at all

2nd best:
last few days of the month - lose few days only.



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got 13k as1m multiple try, asm 17k 1 shot, asw habuk pun tarak.
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asw n as1m nil, asm seems alot, got 37 in 2 shots.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 3 2015, 04:22 PM)
Any catching today brows.gif
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