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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Aug 7 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Aug 7 2015, 01:27 PM)
hahaha just found the master prospectuses for 2013/14 & 2015/16

some scary shit discovery for me lah ... i went down to para 6.6 ASG performance charts & lo & behold i believe they re-calibrated the benchmarks to make the charts look beautiful. 2013 was glaring for pendidikan  blink.gif

didn't look indepth ... maybe I mistaken???

update: hahaha the current years they invest more into equities & less in MM... hence the change imho
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I hold ASG for quite some times. Around 3 years if not mistaken.

AFAIK, the Kesihatan fund invested heavily in equities, 80++%. Others consider ok. like around 60%. That's why...

And the variable funds are can I say fully? depend on the performance of KLCI. Once the KLCI drop, the NAV dropped too...


I noticed the phase where they hold the highest point, which is in 12 13 14. Price skyrocketed each day. Until 1.22 for kesihatan, now standing at 1.06. 15% dropped. I believe if all the issues in MY solved, it will bounced back. So for those who wish to invest but don't want headache for monitoring price like stock or forex, ASG can be considered.

But, looking the trend, those day we consider investing in ASG is due to there is no more units left in fixed priced fund. Perhaps, yes, investing in ASG can be giving high profit if the condition given are same as 12 or 13. I calculated, yes, around 16%... But now only 2.8%... Really need to say thank you.
But now, since everyone scarred of dealing with the so called gov link but actually no, its governed by trustee, there is plenty of fixed price fund unit left. As you can see few hundred posts before....

So, if you have, erm, guts, welcome to the club!!!

Fell free to ask any question here. Critics but not bashing, positive or negative, we'll accept. We have lots of sifus here (some of the are silent reader), newbies like me too smile.gif
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post Aug 7 2015, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Aug 7 2015, 01:27 PM)
hahaha just found the master prospectuses for 2013/14 & 2015/16

some scary shit discovery for me lah ... i went down to para 6.6 ASG performance charts & lo & behold i believe they re-calibrated the benchmarks to make the charts look beautiful. 2013 was glaring for pendidikan  blink.gif

didn't look indepth ... maybe I mistaken???

update: hahaha the current years they invest more into equities & less in MM... hence the change imho
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As per latest ASG FS, ASG Kesihatan have the highest xposure in equity @ 64%
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post Aug 7 2015, 05:00 PM

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Managed to open 2 new ASM accounts in Maybank Damansara Uptown...very friendly staff. ASW no units available...
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post Aug 7 2015, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Kumeran @ Aug 7 2015, 05:00 PM)
Managed to open 2 new ASM accounts in Maybank Damansara Uptown...very friendly staff. ASW no units available...
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Congrats
Btw, did u top up after open?
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post Aug 7 2015, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 7 2015, 05:01 PM)
Congrats
Btw, did u top up after open?
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Yup, yesterday my own acc 2k, today both the new acc 2k each...
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post Aug 7 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kumeran @ Aug 7 2015, 05:00 PM)
Managed to open 2 new ASM accounts in Maybank Damansara Uptown...very friendly staff. ASW no units available...
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did they try opening asw or just say no more units?
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post Aug 7 2015, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 7 2015, 05:29 PM)
did they try opening asw or just say no more units?
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Tried typing up to my own asw, none available... Guess after the dividen then more will sell
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post Aug 7 2015, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kumeran @ Aug 7 2015, 05:00 PM)
Managed to open 2 new ASM accounts in Maybank Damansara Uptown...very friendly staff. ASW no units available...
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another branch added to the list of places to try open new ASx Account rclxms.gif

anyway congratz rclxms.gif
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post Aug 7 2015, 06:45 PM

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Hmmm strange....

Sure ASM isn't release new unit?

Because ASW is fully subscribe....
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post Aug 7 2015, 09:11 PM

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post Aug 7 2015, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 7 2015, 09:11 PM)
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Bumi only.
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post Aug 7 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 7 2015, 09:31 PM)
Bumi only.
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post Aug 7 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 7 2015, 09:51 PM)
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Oh I know. [B]31 OGOS 2015[/B] 6.6%
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post Aug 7 2015, 10:22 PM

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That's early.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 7 2015, 10:17 PM)
Oh I know. [B]31 OGOS 2015[/B] 6.6%
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post Aug 8 2015, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 7 2015, 06:45 PM)
Hmmm strange....

Sure ASM isn't release new unit?

Because ASW is fully subscribe....
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When Ppl sell, everyone can try to buy
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post Aug 8 2015, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 8 2015, 12:18 AM)
When Ppl sell, everyone can try to buy
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yea, but why not ASW? I sense this isn't panic selling. If panic selling, it will happen to all.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 8 2015, 12:18 AM)
When Ppl sell, everyone can try to buy
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yea, but why not ASW? I sense this isn't panic selling. If panic selling, it will happen to all.
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post Aug 8 2015, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 8 2015, 06:35 AM)
yea, but why not ASW? I sense this isn't panic selling. If panic selling, it will happen to all.
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ASW have bumi n non bumi quota @ 51:49 whereas ASM dun have quota
When Ppl sell ASM, any Ppl can buy (subject to timing n luck)
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 8 2015, 07:37 AM)
ASW have bumi n non bumi quota @ 51:49 whereas ASM dun have quota
When Ppl sell ASM, any Ppl can buy (subject to timing n luck)
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So meaning after all, all this while is the bumi selling off their units? Because this only explain why ASW, for the non-bumi subscription is still full...



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