anyone still around?

which team are you? if you are arsenal i hope asernal gg tomorrow night hehehe

[quote=pehkay,May 9 2015, 07:00 PM]
Who pass sin to Eve/Adam? why did Eve got deceived?
Aren't disobedience and corruption also conditioned by ignorance or forgetfulness?

Proverb 22:15
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far away.

Proverb 14:8
The wisdom of the prudent is to discern his way, but the folly of fools is deceiving.

Philippians 1:9-11
9 And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight, 10 so that you may be able to discern what is best and mau y be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ—to the glory and praise of God.


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Actually, Satan's rebellion causes 1/3 of the angels in heaven to rebel (Revelation 12:4 and 9) to become evil spirits. The living creatures which were on the earth at that time also joined Satan in his rebellion. Thus God judged them with water and they became the demons on the earth. Their lodging place is in the water. Man’s body is also their temporary dwelling place. Matthew 12:43 says, “Now when the unclean spirit goes out from a man, it passes through waterless places, seeking rest, and does not find it.” This shows that the lodging place of the demons is in the water. If they cannot find water, they make the physical body of a human being their temporary dwelling place (Matt. 12:44-45).

It is not passed on as in human procreation because angels are er ... angels.

The heavens and the earth surely were defiled by Satan’s rebellion. God rebuked Satan, “Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries.” Therefore, the heavens and the earth were also judged by God. Job 9:5-7 says that God overturned the mountain in His anger, shook the earth out of its place, commanded the sun not to rise, and sealed the stars. We cannot find a record of such an event in human history. It must have happened before the Adamic world, at the time God judged the heavens and the earth due to the rebellion of Satan and his followers. Because of God’s judgment, the heavens did not shine. The earth was covered by darkness. God judged the earth by flooding it with water. So, “the earth became waste and empty,” buried under deep water, and covered with darkness (Gen. 1:2).

Isaiah 45:18 says, “God created the earth not a waste” (ASV). Job 38:4-7 also says that God “laid the foundations of the earth,” “laid the measures thereof,” and “stretched the line upon it;” then “the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy.” This means that He created everything in good order. So when the morning stars saw it, they were excited and sang, and when all the angels saw it, they shouted for joy. It must have happened in Genesis 1:1, not in Genesis 1:2. How could the morning stars sing and the angels shout for joy when the earth became waste and empty?

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Regarding Adam and Eve, I think you misunderstand it was not due to ignorance or forgetfulness.

Rather, before man could take in God’s life, Satan came to Eve, Adam’s wife, tempting her to eat of the tree of knowledge. He did this by injecting his own devilish thought into her mind. Satan caused Eve to question God, His word, and His intention. Satan deceived the woman into thinking that she could be independent from God and even become like God. As a result of her being deceived, Eve took of the fruit and ate it, and gave some to her husband, who also ate.

It's really hard to share when you are not familiar that man is a tripartite being.

Satan first approach Eve by touching her mind. This was a question put into Eve's mind, and this question stirred up her doubting mind. Satan would always approach people by touching their doubting mind. Here Satan questioned something concerning God, and this questioning, no doubt, aroused the mind of Eve. Satan did this to keep Eve from using her spirit. When God comes to us, He always touches our spirit. When Satan comes to us, he always comes to our mind. The spirit is the "room" that God comes to touch, and our mind is the "room" that Satan comes to touch.

After Satan came to touch the female mind, he caused the human mind to doubt God's word (Gen. 3:4). In verse 1 of Genesis 3, he stirred up Eve's mind; then in verses 2 and 3 Eve began to talk to him. This meant that Eve had fallen into the snare already. Eve should not have talked with the serpent or answered him. She should have stood on God's word and run away from this tempter.

Satan also stirred up the human emotion to dislike God. This is proved by verse 5, where Satan said to Eve, "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." This word was a word of evil, stirring up Eve's emotion to dislike God. Eve probably felt that God had kept some good thing from her. This is the subtlety of the enemy to poison the human emotion.

Satan seduced the human will to choose the tree of knowledge. After Satan's word in verse 5, verse 6 says, "When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat." This is the seducing of the human will to make a decision to partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

At this point, Satan had contaminated the entire human soul: the mind, the emotion, and the will. The mind was poisoned, the emotion was poisoned, and the will was poisoned; thus, the entire soul was contaminated.

When Eve and Adam took the fruit of the tree of knowledge, Satan entered into the human body to be the evil in man's flesh. Here we must use Romans 7:17-18a. Paul said, "Now then it is no longer I that work it out, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, nothing good dwells." Paul said that in his flesh there was no good thing. Then Romans 7:21 says, "I find then the law with me who wills to do the good, that is, the evil is present with me." "The evil" must be the evil life, nature, and character of Satan himself, who is the indwelling sin in us. When sin is dormant within us, it is merely sin, but when it is aroused in us by our willing to do the good, it becomes "the evil." Verse 23 says, "But I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind and making me a captive to the law of sin which is in my members." Sin and evil are in man's members, in the flesh. This shows us that when man partook of the tree of knowledge, his whole being was taken over by Satan.

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Amen to that, bro pehkay!

This post has been edited by De_Luffy: May 9 2015, 08:00 PM

when human was created they was naked and they do not even feel ashamed about it at all coz they did not know anything about shame, so the consequence of Eve action therefore does not valid coz she does not know what she is doing, like a little child picking up medicine thinking it was candy due to the color of the medicine

This post has been edited by De_Luffy: May 10 2015, 01:40 AM

why don't you read back Book of Genesis up to the creation of human, and read up how does the bible described how human was until they first sinned

so carefree, please buy me some snack back from shanghai.........just kidding

hello hyan, welcome to Lowyat.net Christian fellowship page stay on with us and chat with us often any question do ask us will try to answer you honestly

are you ok with pentecostal church? that mostly where the younger generations are belong nowadays also depend on your location.
do let us know your location and what kind of church environment you are seeking, we should be able to guide you to the right church

You can try methodist church in sbg jaya but I'm not very sure of their location

how to put that, if you're able to give 10% of your income then you are encouraged to tithe......but however not everyone can really follow the 10% tithe

it's written in the bible but if you can give then give lar it's not going toward church but toward the welfare of the church and do remember that the church office workers including pastors are paid by your tithe, as well as monthly electrical and water bills as well as maintenance workers

nobody can force you to give straight away 10% you can start giving little by little, let say you earn 3k per month so if 10% is too much for you to give you can maybe start with less than 10% first?

ok, i just looked into it tithing is in the old testament but not necessary in new testament but give what you can give like blessing other in need...

http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_tithe.htm

https://www.gci.org/law/tithing

http://www.gotquestions.org/tithing-Christian.html

Amen to that

Geez, this De never repent at all, what was said earlier about God asked him to kill, he makes a u turn saying the killing is same as soldier, I'm really speechless.

When I said there is no more prophet after Jesus, he posted an image from a book saying we are a prophet of our own, wondering how much more he going to disregard the real truth?

Well, to prophecies does means we need prophet I believe thatthe gift of holy spirit does mentioned about the gift of prophecy. And agree with what you said willed by God to prophecy, the apostles does have the gift of prophecy too, it's proven that enabled by the holy spirit we can prophecy via the the way of speaking in tongue which is commonly known but not true for the gift of prophecy is a totally another gift and notany has the gift

Guys, please pray for my mom, she was hospitalised today evening for high blood pressure on top of it she has parkinson disease 2nd stage as well as thyroid and heart problems

why don't you access to the internet while you're in shanghai? I'm sure there's internet connection in Shanghai too........

Btw, thank you for the wishes and prayers everyone appreciate it

tinar, how is your Shanghai trip?

You can get Internet on your mobile too you know there's wifi every in shanghai in cafe or even tourist places

She is a late twenty lady and she has a temper please refrain from calling her grandma just call her Tina will do

One question here does alien exist at all or E.T.?

Ps: please provide a fact that is proven in contrast to what is written in the Bible or in contrast with the history of ancient civilizations, other than that is no applicable