What's there to eat in Shanghai anyway?

I hope there's a church in Shanghai. Wait, don't the Chinese Government kill you if you are worshipping in a church?

This post has been edited by tinarhian: Mar 25 2015, 09:39 PM

those church above ground is the government sanctioned church which is a 3C church, catholic church is one of them while those underground ones or house church is the ones that is not allowed by the government...........however this is the past now i dunno

china fried rice is totally different from our malaysia fried rice, maybe you should try the restaurant food like noodles?

Catholic?

Then I'll probably skip. Coz I'm only going there for a month.

I want to visit the museum, heard there's a lot of relics.

Really? Yeah I would definitely try it dude.

I must sample the local beers too.

Oh wait, its Tsingtao beer right? I hate that. Yucks..

But I'll try the Drunken Chicken.

This post has been edited by tinarhian: Mar 25 2015, 09:54 PM

Only if it's illegal and unregistered Church.

Those established one should be ok.

You should learn this phrase, De_Luffy.

Wer nichts weiß und weiß, dass er nichts weiß, weiß mehr als der, der nichts weiß und nicht weiß, dass er nichts weiß.

He who knows nothing and knows that he knows nothing, knows more than he who knows nothing and doesn't know that he knows nothing.

Esel essen Nesseln nicht, Nesseln essen Esel nicht.

Donkeys don't eat nettles, nettles don't eat donkeys.

Now how would I know if its illegal especially if I'm a foreigner?

I can't just walk straight to the office and demand to see their church registration?

Common, just ignore him.

of course not, no choice have to see on the surface, if it's well build, should be okay, if it looks like, makeshift church, just be careful.

Yes, I will apply my structural engineering knowledge upon those Chinese church structures.

I need to check if there's any partial chipping of concrete on said structure, in order to check the thicknesses and quality.

I need to check the wind loading capacity as well.

Or I would just ask them, "Hey dude, is this an illegal church coz I'm gonna bust some @ss if it is. Then I'll run.."

I would like to witness that happening. If you dare.

Errrrrrr .... hmmmm ...... ahhhhhh ..... no (directly) and yes (indirectly).

No as it doesn't really affect your relationship with the Lord. Don't be a prophecy chasing "freak" This doesn't mean we don't read the news and be aware of what's going on.

Yes as in ... well ... the end is nigh. Just grow to be the overcomer that the Lord wants.

Just come cross this verse

Psalms 119:93 CEVUK00

I won't ever forget your teachings, because you give me new life by following them.

Emm.. something to ponder on...

Sorry, slight correction. There's the communist government set up 'Catholic' Patriotic Association (open church), while there's the Vatican-loyal underground Catholic Church. The situation of the Catholic Church in China is a bit of a mess because of the communist government's refusal to allow the Vatican to select bishops. Nowadays there are some bishops there who have both the recognition of the Vatican and the communist government, but there are also several with only Vatican recognition (obviously persecuted by the communists) and a parallel goverment-selected bishop.

As Catholics, we will never recognize those government-only bishops as that will be tantamount of goverment inference in church activities. "Render to Caesar what is Caeser's, ....."

More info: Cardinal Kung Foundation

How about de1929? Is he a "prophecy freak?"

I'm not a Mormon. I don't want to talk about my past. Please don't ask anymore.

I know what you mean. There's an aunty in my CG that always eyeball me and talked behind my back in church since Day 1. One day I invited her to my house because she wanted to use my PC for a while. I said, "Fine."

She got shocked that I have 1 iPad, 1 iPhone, 1 Note 3, 1 Note 4, 2 Macbooks, 2 laptops and 1 desktop.

Then she asked if I can lend my Macbook to use for a few weeks. Of course I said, "No."

She asked, "Why not?"

Well because your mouth is like a viper. Pretend me be nice to me but behind my back you say all those nasty things.

Of course she just left and when I see her in CG, we just say "Hi" but we don't talk to each other.

Its funny too that in church some of those members always ask you for help, but when you need help, they just brushed you off and ask you to pray to God.

Its always the unbeliever that offer to help you too.

Why such hypocrisy? Always talk about God's mercy and love thy neighbour, etc...But never display Christ like behaviour to help others in need.

Sure I said that I ignored those crazy herds in church, but I'm human too, you know.

oiii!! who are u calling prophecy chasing "freak" harrr ??!! u say properly 1st ok!!

is he replying to you in the first place? i doubt so, pehkay is replying to tina not you why so angry?

He's just joking.

No .

A prophecy "freak" IMO is one who chase prophecies like it is a MAJOR truth or thingy in the Bible. For example, I have seen one person who has already target someone prominent in Europe, who he thinks is Antichrist. He will like "bend" all news about this person, to be signs that he is the one. You get what I mean. This year's blood moon tetrad will be interesting

In principle, the central thought of prophecy is not the events mentioned in the prophecies; rather, it is Christ and the church. We tend to lose ourselves in interpretation of prophecy on what will happen to the nation of Israel, to the church, and to the Gentile world. But never see that the two central matters of the prophecies of the Old Testament or the New, are Christ and the church.

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How about our dear de1929? He is your archetype of someone who is on the other end of the Spirit-Word spectrum [in simple terms].

In our Christian experience, the Word and the Spirit must always be one. It is an utter falsehood to say that we take the Spirit without taking the Word. Without taking the Word, we cannot have the Spirit. In my experience, I receive the Spirit mostly through the Word. As I contact the Word in a living way, it becomes the Spirit to me. However, some take the Bible without the Spirit. This also is wrong. Those who wish to grow flowers need both the seeds and the life contained in the seeds. It is impossible to separate the life within the seeds from the seeds themselves. In order to have the life, we must take the seeds. The relationship between the Word and the Spirit is like that between the seeds and the life. We must have both. The Lord Jesus is both the Spirit and the Word. He is not the Spirit without being the Word, nor the Word without being the Spirit.

IMO, I think he is on "Word -----------------------------------X Spirit". While he thinks we all are in "Word X---------------------------- Spirit". Basically, we are fundamentalists to him.

BUT, please don't misunderstood me. I do not say that Pentecostalists are wrong. No. Rather, probably I am the only one in this thread [could be wrong] who is "not charismatic" says that Pentecostal was raised up by the Lord in response to dead situation or dead works in Protestant Christianity today. Christianity today is full of works but dead [kron was ranting these few days ]. A lot of works done independent of the Spirit.

To be fair, overemphasising on other extreme is not healthy either. Many Pentecostal Christians are too Pentecostal in shouting, in speaking in tongues, in prophesying, and in healing .... till it became forced, manufacturing or worst, fake.

In the early 19-20th century, three things: inner life, pentecostalism and evangelism were the Lord’s reactions to the dead rituals and dead doctrines. But very few people pay attention especially to inner life of knowing the indwelling Spirit. Consequently, this frustrate today's evangelism today. Once we lost the Spirit, believers will tend to "burnt out" and become judgemental because within they have no supply of the Spirit. Without the spirit, there is no transformation in their life, so there is no testimony of Jesus.

There are many things that we can talk about .... but this is enough lar.


This post has been edited by pehkay: Mar 27 2015, 08:36 AM

HAHA ... at first the emoticons were deceiving till I saw the pictures

Anyone around at empire shopping gallery today? Working in empire tower today, if you are free then let meet up for lunch after 12 I guess