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 AS1M, ASB, ASW,ASM,ASG,ASD

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post Nov 16 2006, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Oct 7 2006, 12:43 PM)
ASB/ASW is capital guaranteed investment. That's really a good thing.
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That's right, thats the best features of ASB and ASW that makes it so popular. It has no downside risk, but currently give better return than FD. (But bear in mind ASN is not, since its variable pricing (price change daily). Another great features of ASB/ASW and ASN is that its liquid, you can withdraw anytime without any penalty (except that you can't withdraw at the time they are calculating the bonus/dividend, usually took less than a month every year). Visit PNB website for more info http://www.pnb.com.my

QUOTE(doremon @ Oct 3 2006, 11:46 AM)
Hehehe. But got 1 problem. They have to keep the ASB book  cry.gif . Means no withdraw.  cry.gif
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A very smart move by your parents. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Nov 17 2006, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(rad_zee2003 @ Nov 16 2006, 11:26 AM)
asb is always available,the only limit that they impose is the individual limit which is 0.5 million ringgit
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If I recall correctly, the limit is RM200k only.

I prefer to take advantage of this limit first, then with RM200k safe, you can use the excess in risky investment like stocks etc. Even if you lose all in stock you might be able to sleep better at night if you still have RM200k secured nicely so you won't have to think of not having to eat for the day...

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post Dec 14 2006, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Dec 9 2006, 11:13 AM)
It counting on how many units you need to redeem. Since what you got is the number of units held, no longer the amount you invested. Since you wanna sell your units. To the fund manager, they repurchase from you. Hence, based on buying price listed(or to be more exact, the NAV. As both normally are the same).

Correct me if I'm wrong. sweat.gif
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ASW is a fixed price fund at RM1.00 each, so there is no published NAV as other variable pricing unit trust.

QUOTE(nomar @ Dec 9 2006, 02:07 AM)
where can I get info for ASB,ASM...etc can't find the link in pnb.com.my  also is there age limit for ASM? thanks
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Go to Maybank or CIMB bank and ask for Amanah Saham Nasional Master Prospectus. ASM age limit is 18+, or a guardian for those above 6 months.

@doraemon, yes, I'm waiting for the dividend as well, what's the % you are expecting?

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post Dec 15 2006, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Dec 14 2006, 05:26 PM)
Hi mate, means no matter how, won't lost money in ASW?! By the way, you are talking about the unit holder selling or buying now?! And, how is the calculation(for both cases of selling and buying processes) like if according to what you mentioned? unsure.gif
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That is correct, you won't lost money in ASW since its fixed price at RM1 (but NOT ALL PNB's unit trust is fixed at RM1.00) The fixed price like ASB & ASW are not like other private unit trust like public mutual etc where there is a spread between buying and selling of between 2% to 6%. That's one of the reason why ASB & ASW is very popular.

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post Dec 18 2006, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Dec 16 2006, 12:44 PM)
asb dis year brapa % dividen?
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Its not announce yet. Sabar, sabar.... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(nexona @ Dec 18 2006, 11:00 PM)
went to maybank and ask all full. Ai.. got lubang or not? for ASW
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Try to tackle the girl behind the counter and belanja her makan. Then ask he to call you quickly if there are available units. Kill to birds in one stone mah... rclxms.gif
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post Dec 21 2006, 12:46 PM

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ASB Dividend 7.3%, Bonus 1.25%
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post Dec 22 2006, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(nexona @ Dec 21 2006, 05:06 PM)
eh, two Amanah Saham investor duno what u guys are talking about?  hands.gif

ASW - Amanah Saham Wawasan = for bumi/non-bumi.
ASN/B - Amanah Saham Nasional = for ONLY bumi.
went to pos office, they said i can open ASW account first and try luck. Open acct requires RM100 but they dont gurantee got fund for me. So, how? doh.gif
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I suggest you try your luck. Its nice for the post office guy/girl to ask you to try your luck, some will just say "sudah penuh".

The fund will be available when other people withdraw their money. So you can get lucky.

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post Dec 24 2006, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(nexona @ Dec 22 2006, 11:19 AM)
thanks vergas for the reply.  smile.gif

They said only can "tambah", what mean tambah when all non-bumi quote already full? I dont understand.  hands.gif
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Now, I'm also confuse, first you said they said can open first and try your luck... My guess is eventhough the fund for non-bumi is full, sometimes some of them will withdraw money for something, therefore the amount will be available.

There should be no difference between bumi.non-bumi dividend for asw.

ASW for bumi is normally available since ASB is still for most bumi available, since historically ASB dividend is higher than asw, most bumi will put in asb first, then only asw.

Calculations:
IIRC, Dividend, based on average monthly minimum balance for last year, ie jan to dec 2006.

Bonus, based on average monthly minimum balance for last 10 years. ie 1997 to 2006.



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post Dec 27 2006, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Dec 27 2006, 07:31 AM)
So far the highest FD I seen is 5% (opposite HSBC of Central Market). For FD under government control ASB second ASW. What I don't understand is how does FD works? Example I put RM10k. 5% of RM10k is RM500. Then follow by the following year RM10500. End of the year another 5% from RM10500. Am I right so far?
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You must mean Malaysian Building Society Bhd (MBSB) a company controlled by EPF. The advertisement is blue in colour right?

FD has maturity date, eg 1 month, 3 months etc till about 15 months. If you put FD of RM10000 for 12 mnths and the bank/institution say will give you 5%pa, you'll get RM500 at end of 12 months. But it you withdraw before 12 months you MAY get nothing (some nice bank may give you something). At end of the 12 months if you roll over the interest plus principle another 12 months and the instution/bank say will give you 5%, yes that will be 5% out of RM10500. But FD rate changes, so after 12 months the new rate may be more of less.
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post Dec 27 2006, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Dec 27 2006, 02:54 PM)
So if that's the case ASW has more % rather then normal fix deposit. Please be aware that i am referring the people that not involve with mutual fund, stock nor unit trust.
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Historically this is true, except during the financial crisis in 1997/98 when FD rate increase to 10% for a while.
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post Dec 28 2006, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Dec 28 2006, 07:58 AM)
As far as I know that ASN is not that bad either. This three things ASB(Bumi), ASW2020(Open) & ASN(Open) is the best there is. It's guaranty and monitor by government. I think best if everybody starts to focus in investment this rather then others (privates). Coz by doing so we also helping the government to make improvements in investments side (country).
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ASN is not fixed price fund, so you may lose some of your capital. I would replace ASN with Amanah Saham Didik (ASD), but ASD is only available for bumi. You can use portion of your EPF for ASD as well. Oh.. but its difficult to get ASD since it has limited fund size.
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post Dec 29 2006, 08:29 AM

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Nothing much on the website. Best to go to agent eg RHB, Pos, CIMB/BCB, Maybank and ask for Master Prospectus. All info are there.

PNB's website is www.pnb.com.my .
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QUOTE(crystal_kit85 @ Feb 6 2007, 04:29 PM)
After reading this thread i cant help myself but to give it a try on ASW2020. At first i have called Maybank up to enquire about the ASW2020, in an immediate reply they have ask me to contact PNB as they wouldn't know about the quota, hence, i have route my call to PNB and unfortunately they told me that the current quota is full. sad.gif

I have got a question here, i have a Maybank account but there isn't any account book for me as all the things has been shift to computerised using Maybank2u, so if i were to open an account on ASW2020, where can i get the book?

And how often should i call PNB up in order to enquire about the availability of ASW2020. Thanks in Advance.
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I think normally it will be in the paper to inform that ASW2020 or other fund size is going to be available, but it normally full in the day it is open (the non-bumi portion).
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post Feb 28 2007, 11:08 AM

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I've done a spreadsheet to analyse the above. See what do you guys think.


http://www.online-storages.com/799313

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post Mar 1 2007, 07:09 PM

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Anybody who currently or in the past have the ASB loan? Maybe can scan the loan statement and email to me, I wanna to see how the devidend treatment is. I wonder since if dividend is use to pay our loan, will it reduce the monthly payment, or the duration of the loan will be shorter.

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It is not my intention to promote or not promote the loan. The spreadsheet above assume ASB dividend constantly at 7% and loan interest at 6%, but this MAY NOT BE THE ACTUAL CASE. You guys can modify the spreadsheet to suits your own forecast. Bear in mind in the year 1998, BLR skyrocket, and the loan interest rate became much higher than ASB's dividend. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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post Mar 5 2007, 05:02 PM

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I found link to ASN ASB etc prospectus here

http://www.pnb.com.my/business/business.cf...t=1&subsubcat=1

jusk click ok at all the disclaimer.
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post Mar 9 2007, 12:38 PM

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50,000 units = RM50,000

Quickly dig your money up and que up early in the morning. Open at 9.30am.

Agents is at Maybank, RHB, CIMB and Pos Malaysia. Can also buy at PNB Building, Jalan Tun Razak, (next to tabung haji).
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post Mar 23 2007, 05:01 PM

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For Bumi,
First ASB, if max
Second ASD, if unavailable/max
Third ASW/ASM.

(based on historical returns of course)
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post Apr 1 2007, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Archiou @ Mar 31 2007, 01:37 PM)
Is it true that variable price fund more risky than fixed price one?
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By defination yes. Risk = chances of unfavorable outcome. Since variable fund can drop in value, therefore it it more risky.

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