I've browse thru many forums including this one and didn't find necessary reviews regarding built-in ovens. Some thread are really old already so am not sure what latest options that I have. Most of the reviews I have found online are from overseas and the models might not be available here.

So, can any baking enthusiasts/housewifes share their experience and opinions with me regarding particular brands and models they have used before? Preferably one that is reliable (even heating) and last many years. I like to bake and will use it for roasting meat as well, looking into using it for baking mayb twice a week and preparing meals.

But I do have a tight budget, mayb I'm willing to pay abt 1500 or stretch to 2500 if it's a good unit. So far I heard Bosch is good, some salesmen recommend Electrolux which I'm a little skeptical. Anyone tried buying a display unit oven b4? I almost did cos it was really cheap less than 1k for a Rinnai and Whirlpool but with slightly defects. Is it advisable to get really old models on display?

Thanks in advanced for any kind advice.

Hi,

I bought a Fagor unit back in 2007. It is still serving me well. I've sent it to service once for close to RM300. After the service, the temperature control was functioning accurately, but now, the front glass panel came off, and that's when I found out that their customer service did not respond back on my request for a service.

The built in oven of mine has an inner dimension of slightly more than 15" width and depth. It can fit well a 15"x15" tray with little room.

The downside with built in oven are the fact that they do not ventilate well, thus, the heat might dissipate slower than stand alone units (need to keep the door ajar a little). Next, you'll need to invest in an oven thermometer to ensure that the temperature is consistent with the dials. Oh, I'm using an analogue dial. I've never used digital before, but it looks better.

Hope it helps.

Thanks for sharing! I came across a few Fagor models which was on display cos the comp went bankrupt. I was told by their personnel at a sale that the company was bought up by a middle-east company and is launching their new products in April.

I've heard many bad reviews about this brand and will consider other brands with the same price.

Btw, nowadays they have ovens that have a gap at the front above the door. On the demo unit, I could feel air coming out. It's more precisely setting using digital but it'll prob b more lasting to use an analogue one with a thermometer.

Thanks again!

This post has been edited by kshereen: Jan 19 2015, 08:39 PM

Why are you skeptical towards Electrolux? They have really good ovens that are imported from other country. So far mine have no problem at all.

If you can wait till May, go for the Teka warehouse sale. I bought an oven for like 60% off. It's a new unused unit but open box that's all.

Teka warehouse sales in May? is this an annual event? if really so, I will keep this as a reminder in my Calendar and wait for it.

In your humble opinion, is this worth to wait? ie. new unit and huge discount?

what to do, every penny saved will surely helps a lot

Yup yearly event. Definitely worth it. Be there on the first day to catch the best choices
Not new in box but new opened box.
However I did managed to buy one new in box induction cook top. That was 50% off cause they discontinue that model. And the new model is not as good as the one I bought.

Wow! Thanks for highlighting and surely keep an eye on that.

Homedec also in May, will be a busy month then

Hmm cos reviews not exceptionally good despite being higher priced. And one outlet told me they dun want to carry the brand anymore due to many problems, their cust often complain to them. But one sales guy from Harvey Norman kept saying it is good at past year compared to 3-4 yrs ago cos last time Thailand flooded and seems like those units are from there.

Thanks for the heads up! But how to make sure that they are not display units cos it's opened box? Do they offer to test the units on the spot? I'm sure they also give standard warranty but I just don't like having a unit that stops working after a year or three just because someone mishandled it before. I've seen a display unit oven door that cant fully open, can't imagine what kind of abuse it had gone thru.

I've touched a Teka before and it's pretty solid and no doubt a good brand. It's not overly expensive and with 60% off they r good buy indeed.

I wonder will there be any Pre-GST sales b4 April?

Electrolux also had a warehouse sale last year near year end. Not sure if it's a yearly thing tho. Prices were good but I wasn't prepared to buy at that time.

Electrolux sale is bi-annual. I cannot remember seeing any ovens there on sale. Plenty of washer and dryers. I bought a vacuum cleaner.

For Teka yes most of them are display units but not in big store like Harvey Norman where traffic is high. Have you seen a Teka oven on display? Hardly right?
These are display units placed at those kitchen maker and Teka own showroom.
The protective sticker are still there. Its an oven, there's not much to break. You check the doors the knobs that's about it. Mine didn't even have knobs. All touch control and triple glazed. I think I paid 2k for it.
Still haven't install though as my place is not ready yet.

This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 20 2015, 08:07 AM

Err here nobody talk with bosch

There's one electrical shop also said the same thing of the quality and lots of problems, thus many sending back for warranty claims. I can't verify as you know la, maybe some shops trying to push other brands.

I also quite like Electrolux but Now in a dilemma liao...

I was looking at Bosch. Not much choice as compare to Teka. And not much discount.
I'm also skeptical with their after service.

Ha ha lucky my wife she not prefer oven at all.

But she prefer this an over oven. "Thermomix"

Mostly washer dryer fridge.

A few hundred cheaper than new unit but no warranty and delivery excluded.

Visitors at the warehouse don't care about the warranty issue, they just think they found a good price.

I did saw ovens at the Electrolux warehouse sale. I din check the price tho cos I wasn't prepared to buy. Those were open box too. Fridges also display units but hoods weren't, many were still sealed in box.

Harvey Norman does carry Teka and if my memory serves me well, I saw their ovens there too. Not all HN carry the same range of products, the small one I went to only carry Bosch and Electrolux. Most of the big ones now have cleared their display units and only those newer models available.

Haha idoblu, my experience is different from yours, I see more bosch everywhere rather than Teka. Perhaps because you went to the Teka warehouse sale so you saw many models. TBM and HN carry Bosch brand. Not sure about their after-sales service but from what I experience from Electrolux (washing machine) the service is good. You call them, they will send a person to come and check the next day.

Germans are well-known for their ovens too. Problem is, nowadays they say on the oven "Made in Germany" or "Made in Italy" but some sources say the parts are not fully made in the origin country. They don't make their own parts instead they source from some China factories. Of course with better brands, they source from better factories not those cheap china made. An auntie who sells the kitchen appliances even told me those company usually made them in China and ship back into their country as their own product. If it's 100% made in Germany, it'll be very expensive. Even Bosch has two prices (some models), made in Germany and those "from Germany".

Kimsim, Thermomix even more expensive wei...Ur wife very pandai, it's all in one and she can just goyang kaki wait for food to be done.

Anyone has any experience with Fotile and Lebensstil? Saw a demo on Lebensstil on its higher-end model and the features are pretty good and they include many accessories include a pizza stone and probe.

Oh yeah, display units are sometimes powered-up before but of course not technically baked anything in it.

Usually at a clearance sale (display units) they still offer the standard warranty. But for me I dunno the history of the unit so a bit scared to buy. Like I said I've seen before some selling for very very low price. Physically looks fine from the outside until maybe you open the door, it creaks or can't fully open. Not sure how the display unit can be damaged until door can't open fully. So usually for display units/clearance probably can consider if you want really low price and don't mind a little defect (not taking into consideration the unseen ones).

Anyone who wants to know where I've seen those display units at low low price can PM me.

iambloodysick, btw I understand that you have a shop selling electrical appliances. Care to recommend any good ovens that is reasonably priced? TIA.

This post has been edited by kshereen: Jan 20 2015, 11:51 AM

I bought Rubine from EQ (the one in Kepong, not very sure of the name now) at only RM950 in 2009. Retail that time was about RM1700. Serves me very well. But I only use the convection mode most of the time, and the it spreads heats very well. I do a lot of baking and some grilling. I never did any service. But now the fan for the convection stops working, so I just change to convention using the up/down heater. I love convention better and will get it repaired soon.

Anyway, my unit was only dented a bit at the back. For that price, and its performance to me this is one of the best buys. I hantu warehouse sale anyway. Most of our appliances are all from sales . Except for a Maytag washer (used for 4 years, repaired once...now prob again), all other appliances... hood, fridge, dishwasher all ok.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Been seeing Rubine a lot but I didn't consider cos prices weren't that cheap, perhaps it was new models. Now that you tell me it's good, perhaps can also put into my list. They say convection will distribute heat well but will dry cakes surface? It's good for cookies tho. I used a microwave-cum-convection oven before and it's true the top is dry because of the "wind" and the oven space is small. I also used a table top oven before, without the fan on, the cake won't cook thoroughly.

So, your Rubine doesn't suffer from the inner side being hotter than outer side (near the door) since you said heat was well distributed?

That is why I want a built-in oven for bigger cooking capacity and save my table top space as my kitchen is not that big.

I almost bought an oven for RM900+, a Rinnai but when I open the door, it can't fully opened.

Some rave about American brands like Whirlpool and Maytag while others say they are not lasting. To me, a brand is just a guideline, more importantly got real people using it and give feedback based on their usage. That's my main reason for getting advices here. Cos pening from all the sales talk. Salesman can talk till sky high. If you are lucky then you get a good unit. Even expensive cars can have defects.

So bila lagi ada warehouse sale in the near future? Remember to share with me.

Guys, just a quick check. I just purchased an electrolux built in oven. Before the cabinet guys come next month, i was told that i need to change the plug from a 13A to a 15a plug. Is it simply a change of plug or do i have to oull a new wire from DB box (which will be messy as it is situated quite far away)?

Thanks in advance!

I think you need to pull new wire from the DB box... the wiring is different (thicker) between 13A and 15A.

Anyway your socket wire wasn't tapping from another socket and use with China made wires cable.

That is dose not an issue to change from 13A plug to 15A, usually 15A just use for Aircon or Water heater.

Even my dryer input watt 2300 was come with 13A for normal socket plug will do.

Thanks for the reply guys!

An oven wattage is not usually higher than heater or air cond?

If possible i wouldnt like to pull a new wire from the db box as i risk damaging my plaster ceiling as im sure the cables have to run through there, but then again i dont want my plug to burn everytime i use the oven as well. Has anyone experience using a 70L oven with a 15a plug only?rated power is 2780W

If the existing wall socket, you can able to used also.
From the 13A normal plug can be do lah.

Becoz of the condenser dryer also power rate on 2700w, but ppl wouldn't do any pull a new wire from DB.
But make sure your existing socket wire is pull from DB then shouldn't be a problem.

If you too concern in future then just go with 15A plus and pull new wires from DB.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 3 2015, 04:20 PM

Hi guys, apologies if i hijacked this thread. Was just wanting to ask about the wiring for my new oven.

Purchased a built in electrolux EOB2400 rated at 2780w.

Ive been getting mixed opinions on the wiring,
1) to pull an additional cable from the DB. (Messy and least favourite option)
2) to just use a current plug.
3) to jus change the plug to a 15a plug.

Which of the above are not true?(sound like an exam?)

Heres a photo of the actual plug point im planning to use. It will be connected to a soon to be built kitchen cabinet. It is not shared with any other socket other than a room socket used primarily for a table fan. The DB box unit is Marked In green as in the photo below.



Any the final questions are,

4) how much does an electrician charge for such services?
5) do you guys have any suggestions for electricians in subang or shah alam area?

Thanks in advance!

From my limited knowledge, I think option C is fine. Cos if not, the point might melt and trip your power. Just make sure don't share with other appliances when using d oven on the same point.

Just for updates, I bought my oven in Feb. I finally chose a brand and ironically it wasn't in my wish list, the Belling BI60MF. It was on promo and I love the fact that it is direct from the UK and carries a 5 year warranty (2 from the manufacturer and 3 from the local store). It was on promo price and I find it reasonably priced.

Have yet to install it so can't really share any experiences with it yet.

Hi, i also want to buy an oven but I am not interested to bake a cake or pizza. Just use it to roast and grill only. So, will convection + microwave (2in1) more than enough for my needs?

I have tried roasting a whole chicken in a 2-in-1 microwave/convection oven and it turned out fine. The skin will crisp and the inside is juicy (depending on your recipe). I even tried making "fried" chicken coated with flour before and it turned out crispy (texture-wise, of course can't be compared to frying with oil).

Mine was an old model of 2-in-1, not the newer models that you see nowadays. Basically, for grilling and roasting, I believe the microwave/convection oven will work OK due to the fan-forced heat and the turn-table.

A cake will also turned out OK (although the top will be a bit dry), if you are not too particular. IMHO, as the 2-in-1 is usually smaller compared to ovens, the heat might be "too near" to the food and thus some time/temp adjustment to your recipe might be required.

You need to consider the size of wiring for oven. 4mm size should do the trick otherwise the wire will melt because it cannot take the heat with time.

Then the wattage.. 2780w/220v = 12.6A so rounding it to nearest number, then it would be 13A although it wouldn't hurt to play safe and use a 15A socket.

So if you going to use option 3, make sure the wire size is correct as well.

Help needed here, where can i buy affordable built in oven? Any dealer or shop i can go? What brand is good with budget of 1500 - 2500?

I think you can consider the Electrolux EOB2400AOX. It was on offer at Seloka Sukma Damansara Uptown. The price offered to me was around RM2300 (in March).

I settled for the Belling at RM2200 because it's made in the UK and has 2+3 years warranty. Hope that helps.

This post has been edited by kshereen: Apr 22 2015, 10:58 AM

With that kind of budget u really can get a very good oven

Where is the shop to purchase the belling oven? @kshereen

This post has been edited by corinsb: Apr 23 2015, 12:31 AM

You can find a dealer nearest to you here:
http://bellingcookers.com.my/dealer-locations/

I have enquired it in ESH, they do carry the brand but if you need to see a model on display you can go to Harvey Norman at IPC (I assume you are in Klang Valley). I bought from HN at IPC. If they (Belling) are having a promo, you can find it on their website. The model that I bought was selling for RM2999 originally if I remember correctly.

i am in dilemma in choosing the oven now :
1. Electrolux EOB2400AOX RM2299
2. Belling BI60MF RM2199
3. Rubine RBO-AVATA2-70SS RM1899

anyway i am first time oven user and cater for family of 5.
Which will be better?

For me the main criteria would be even heat distribution in an oven and also durability (built quality and parts). That is what I selected the Belling as they are confident to give me 2 years manufacturer's warranty. Plus it is made in the UK. Electrolux has factories in China and Thailand. Not to say their quality is not good but I was thinking why not get from a manufacturer that specialises in ovens and cookers for about the same price? Rubine, it is a local brand manufactured in China but the price is almost at par with imported names.

From your selection, I see that you want a big oven. The Electrolux has the biggest capacity. As for functions, the Electrolux gives you 6 and the Belling has 9. The Belling would be more versatile if you ask me.

If you are in Klang Valley, I suggest you take a trip to the outlets to talk to sales personnel about the the quality of the ovens. I learn a lot from them, some sales person are good and very technical and can provide you with sound knowledge of the product that you are interested in. More often than not, they will tell you which product is more reliable cos they would not want you to go back and complain to them. Of course, big shops tend to carry better quality brand names to avoid any after sales problems.

They say Bosch also produces good ovens. I think you will not go wrong with the Electrolux or Belling but I personally will stay away from Rubine.

@Kshereen
Thanks for the advice, now it much more clear on which oven to buy.

Let me source for the best deal around.

some families have been using Rubine for 7-8 years without failing, some families has been using Beiling and Electrolux and it fails after 1.5 years

important thing is spare parts, for Rubine, you can easily get spare parts and Beling and Electrolux, after certain years, they will just phase off the spare parts and you need to change the whole oven in order to get it work.

another important note, make sure the oven you are purchasing the door can be dismantle for washing access


basically, every electronics item now are depending on your luck

good luck for scouting the deal

Well, I think it's like getting a car. Would you consider a Honda/Toyota rather than a local car? For some a local car will do enough to travel around (I also drove a local car before). For others, they prefer the stability, security etc of better brands.

It also depends on you usage, if more wear n than then things tend to break down more often. My theory is simple, I buy something that can give me confidence. Any product can have very good specs on paper. After researching online (users review) and going to many shops (I go to at least 10), I made my decision. That is why some people go for Teka even if It is a display unit, just because they have confidence in the product.

Agree on theory that buying things depends on luck. A good car can also be faulty upon delivery. That is why I'm sold on the 5 years warranty. Good luck!

This post has been edited by kshereen: Apr 25 2015, 02:48 PM

Even my BMW only has 2 years warranty while Honda provides 5 years warranty

Warranty is not my concern, my concern is spare parts. Most of the time manufacturer gives 5 years warranty exclude wear and tear, so it means it doesn't cover anything after wear and tear and you basically pay extra for nothing other than a paper with 5 years warranty stamped



This post has been edited by babyk: Apr 25 2015, 01:03 PM

That's why you bought a BMW in the first place right? Bcos you trust its quality and brand name. That is exactly what I'm trying to say about buying thru confidence and not abt what's stated on paper. Like I said I personally shy away from certain brands becos I believe more in other brands.

This post has been edited by kshereen: Apr 25 2015, 02:18 PM

warranty is nothing nowadays, spare parts is important for EOL products in future

Haha ok, everyone has their own opinion. Thanks for sharing yours with us.
For my case, the warranty was a bonus with no extra paid, same price as stated in manufacturer's website. Unless, they already made a deal with manufacturer in order to make the deal look better (might be possible). But personally, I still think BMW still better than local car, no?

This post has been edited by kshereen: Apr 25 2015, 03:30 PM

BMW is a better car but BMW made in China will not be a better car

Malaysia car is better than China made car

same goes to electrical appliances

Exactly, that's my point!

I say it's a matter of preference, budget for most.

European made appliances, I believe in their long-standing performance and stability due to experience. However, there is no basis as to why even china made, japan made or korean made appliances should deserve lesser interest as long as they perform reliably regardless of whether they will last as long as the european ones. So long as they can hold up to 5 years max, that is already good enough.

BMW and Mercs I will consider good stability on the road partly because the body is heavy and steering is stable unlike japanese, korean cars (depends on your driving ability with non european cars) but it is a real pain for maintenace after warranty period because they are european cars, the cost of maintenence is relatively higher in the long run unless one is prepared to upkeep the maintenance costs.

Always pros and cons, so I say, just buy what serves your purpose and nothing more.

Well said. That is why I buy a Fotile hood eventhough it is a China brand cos I have confidence in it and it fits my budget.

Was told that electrolux EOB2400 is made in italy , not sure how true is that . May i know where did u get the price rm2299?

http://m.11street.my/productdetail/electro...-cooking-468918

This post has been edited by corinsb: May 3 2015, 06:13 PM

TMB online ? did you purchase anything from them before ? price is rm2170 only . the prices i got from homedec was 2599 and 2349 LOL

Its May already, anyone know the venue and date for the annual event? Thanks

Be extra cautious when buying online especially electrical items. Be sure to ask if it is a display unit especially when the price is too good to be true. If you are willing to pay a bit less for a display unit the it is fine. Else you might be paying original price for a display unit.

I'm telling this based on my recent experience and I have also read about other people's experiences on being sent display units even when they paid the price for new units. It seems like it is a common practice with electrical shops so be sure to ask. When the items arrive, make sure they are sealed and not opened before.

When I enquired at Seloka Sukma, the sales person claimed that their company had bought up all the EOB2400 and other shops that sells the models only have display units. That was why they could give customers special price for the model. Don't trust their words 100%, so be sure to confirm whether the prices quoted are for new units or display ones.

Yes u are right . I experienced this lately when i bought my kitchen hood from one of the shops in puchong facing main road near tesco . its resealed pack with screw marks . It doesnt come with power cord and not sure this is normal or not . The salesperson insists that is new set and i dint want to argue further . This will be my first and also last time buying from them .

Btw ive placed my deposit for EOB2400 but not from seloka sukma and hope everythin will be okie. I also told them i will only accept sealed unit .

It's easy to check for items like TV, it must always show the setup menu for the first time you turn it on. Also check the packet that contains the remote controller/warranty card etc must not be opened before/resealed. Stickers on the unit are also tell-tale signs of it being a display unit.

As for other items, it's a bit hard to tell (since no setup menu). telur, if the shop you buy from has a customer service dept, you show try writing them a formal letter on your complaint. The screw mark is a very obvious sign that it is not a new unit. Pressure them to exchange to a new unit. Talk to their higher management instead of the salesperson. Usually they will be more willing to help resolve your problem. Tough luck if they still insist on not exchanging. At least then we will all boycott the shop. Lucky for me, the shop I bought from were willing to resolve the problem and gave me a new unit instead.

For your new oven, you should normally see it in a polystrene carton sealed with thick cling plastic wrap. I'm not sure if they can resealed it this way, but I think at least the power cord should not be connected yet indicating it wasn't powered up before. Well, not all display units are powered up before but most are. Also, some are not screwed into the cabinet while on display so they might not have screw marks. If you are uncomfortable with the unit, do not accept it and ask the delivery guy to take it back. The delivery guys only deliver what is arranged so it's best to talk to the salesperson or even better, his manager, regarding any disputes.

This post has been edited by kshereen: May 6 2015, 12:55 AM

Hi experts.. Recently I've just purchased a oven Fotile model KQD50F-C2 and a electric hob model EEG75201. My wiring contractor was asking me the power points requirement on oven and hob. I read the specification of these models but it didn't specify the requirement for oven. Only stated for the electric hob is to be connected directly to 25A circuit breaker.

Then I called up the Fotile support service centre hotline for clarification. A very helpful and friendly technician says 15A for the oven and 20A for my electric hob would be sufficient. For the oven no issues but I questioned him that his advice on 20A power requirement for electric hod is contradict with their brochures which stated 25A. Then he says 25A also can.. I asked my wiring contractor, he says 25A is super big power! It makes me more confused

Appreciate if anyone here can advice me should I go for 20A or 25A for the 4.5kW power requirement. Thanks in advance!

25A
Really need that much?

Haha... That's exactly what my wiring contractor asked! So is it sufficient to go for 20A for the 4.5kW power requirement? Any formula to calculate??

Have you searched this forum for electric hob discussion? Maybe you can find answers from users who used it before here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2483434/all
Zheilwane sells Fotile products at his shop. Maybe if you ask him, he can give a more accurate answer to you question.

This post has been edited by kshereen: May 6 2015, 06:39 PM

Hehe for aircon and water heater 20A also enough already hor?

It's easy to find out the AMP rating.

4.5kW = 4500W
Current Voltage provided by TNB = 220V-230V (I will use 220V for calculating instead)

4500W/220V = 20.45A (Round off to nearest digit which is 20A)

And what type is your electric hob? Induction or Vitroceramic?

Vitroceramic takes more energy than Induction to heat up so there's a slight difference between these two since Induction is considered energy saving. You may also use 25A to be on the safe side if you are still worried about the Amp.

For Oven, the kW or Wattage = 3.05kW or 3050W

3050W/220V = 13.86A (Round off to nearest digit which is 14A)
Then the nearest Amp socket, you will need is 15A.

That said, both oven and hob cannot share power links. Need to be solely dedicated power for each and you need to make sure the wire size for each power is 4mm and above because anything below that, the wire cannot handle the heat current and will fry the connection.


This post has been edited by S'aimer: May 7 2015, 11:08 AM

Thanks for the detail explanation, S'aimer!
I have called a few electricians for clarification. Yes, you're right.. The wiring requirement is min 4mm. They say that 4mm would be sufficient for 25A. I'll ensure my contractor to provide 4mm each for my oven and vitro-ceramic hob separately.

You're welcome.

By the way, I would suggest that if you have 2-4 cooking zones on your vitroceramic hob, you should not utilize all zones to cook at the same time because of the full power required to use all zones, and this more or less affects the overall power for the whole house provided by TNB. Balance between power distribution throughout the house I suppose, considering the AMP rating for aircon, heater as well.

This post has been edited by S'aimer: May 7 2015, 12:58 PM

4mm? Quality of the wire are more important. 4mm of pure copper and CCA make alot of difference.

I have 2 cooking zone with 2.2kW and 2.3kW each. Noted your advice and will instruct my wife not to turn to full power on both zones at the same time. I think seldom would be turning on full power for both cooking zones. Thanks S'aimer!

Hi supersound.. Thanks for your advise.. I'm really noob in electrical matters. I have instructed him to use Mega cables 4mm for the oven and cooker.. Would it be alright or suffice? Please advise if any additional requirements are required to ensure its quality

Never heard of this brand, best is you check the quality of the wire.

Hi, just got my oven. Doing self installation, wiring had done by contractor.
The oven come with wire w/o plug.
My question is, can we connect the wire via the wire connector(those with screw on top and join then screw it) or I need to remove the oven wire and connect direct from wire to the oven connector terminal.

My oven also came with the wire minus the plug.

You do not need to connect the wire that way.

What you need is a plug for the oven wire so you can plug that into the socket switch dedicated for oven use only. Has your contractor fixed the wall switches already?

No, wow. They just lay the wire, said it can direct connect with the oven. Because my oven only arrive after 4 months renovated.
He just make a 20A switch control the power.

Oh.. I would prefer my oven to have a plug for the wire because frankly if need to send for repair, no need to dismantle the wiring. Yours will need to dismantle the wiring from the switch in this case right?

I had the same problem too about the wiring for oven and hob.. I have checked with Zeen and the technical support in Fotile.. They advised me to connect directly to the wiring from circuit breaker due to the high Amp requirement.

Your amp requirement is lower than mine. If I recall right, your total W = 7530W

I'm using a Teka vitroceramic hob and fotile oven.

Hob is 6.0kW or 6000W (25A-27A) & oven is 2.7kW or 2700W. Total W = 8700W so my AMP requirement is definitely higher.

Have new separate wiring dedicated for both oven & hob and yes both have their own plugs and socket switches.

I just told the electrician guy their wattage power and the Amp rating & he fixed it for me.

This post has been edited by S'aimer: May 12 2015, 03:45 PM

Basically you should seperate oven and the induction cooker.
both must be use 20Amp. Your electrician should make a new wire for two fuse. Same like air con and heater where each fuse is dedicated to each appliances.
But I share my oven with my microwave, since oven is seldom use and microwave as well. But both are share in 20AM fuse.

Yep.. S'aimer, you're right.. Your amp requirements are higher than mine.. But the wiring should be same as mine which is 4mm pulled from the MCB separately (no sharing) to oven and hob each. The 4mm wiring can take up to 27A provided your electrician is using a good quality cable. I've asked my electrician to give me Mega cables for all the 4mm wiring. Btw, you have a very nice vitroceramic hob. Using Teka needs to have budget man

S'aimer, Can you find the socket switches with 25A?? I was told that the largest you can find in the market is only 20A. If you can find, pls do let me know

Seldom see a 25A socket. The closest is 32A Gang switch. Usually you can do a pairing with 15A socket switch with a 32A gang switch. Just tell that to your electrician.

Both the socket switch and gang switch have to be turned on at the same time for the hob to work. Mine is like this.

Because i extended my kitchen, so the new extension does not have any existing wiring. So have to put in new wiring for new sockets. Reconfigured the DB sorta.

The teka hob was below 2 k so meets the budget

Yo zyde,
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This post has been edited by kshereen: May 14 2015, 11:09 AM

Very sorry, i am also just want to buy new oven. First time to be exact. My question to all experts:

1. The new wall switch for oven only must be direct route from MCB right? and the CB must be at least 20A right? If I doesn't have one, then I must ask my wireman to reroute new one right?

2. Anyone have good experience with Fotile oven? I plan to buy one.


Please fell free to give your kind opinion. Appreciate them and thank you.

Direct from DB, cannot share with other appliances as it is only specifically for oven. Cannot also loop. Must be a new wiring, so your wireman has to lay a new wiring for oven.

Oven wiring must be at least min 4mm and above. As for switch amp power, check what is the amp power for the oven first.

You can calculate using the total amp for oven / 240V = xx Amp for switch

Thank you so much for the info S'aimer. Now I have clear view regarding this matter.

sorry for follow up an older email thread. What price did you purchase your belling with 5 yrs warrant? RM2.2k is an awesome bargain as I seeing HN offering similar model none-chrome for RM2.4k without 5 yrs, default 2yrs warranty.

It was at HN too! I think Belling were having a promo for BI60MF black that time for RM2399 bundled with Morphy Richards coffee machine. Can opt for oven only at RM2200. The 3 years extended warranty is by HN.

Thank you very much... i just leant they had promotion till july with rm1k price slash .. it was RM1999!! scoll down - http://bellingcookers.com.my/promotions/ page. I am considering opt out 3 yrs warranty as it adds extra cost RM400+; might change mind when purchasing . I think the price now is RM2399 and the chrome one RM2799.

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This post has been edited by kshereen: Oct 18 2015, 12:59 PM

Tat was a very good price at 1.9k!
In my case, the extra 3 years warranty was thrown in free so I just took it. I think u might not need to add the extra warranty. Most brands have only 1 years and Belling gives two years, I think thats good enough. Most importantly we have faith in the product! :-D

This post has been edited by kshereen: Oct 18 2015, 12:54 PM

Hi, does anybody know about Ariston or Franke brand? I tried to search for some reviews online but to no avail. Would like to know if anyone is using and can give some feedback? Thank you.

In my research, people who had used Ariston said it's good and reliable. Mostly Ariston that I have seen r those standalone with burners on top. Not many store carry them though. Franke brand I've no knowledge, sorry.

Ariston is mostly carried by Signature... think they're the distributor, pretty standard and reliable.

Franke - popular for their sink and mixers (although mostly made in china nowdays), not very well known or not even sure if they carry appliances.

I would like to know why is it my Electrolux oven model eob2400aox temperature indicator light will auto turn off if I set it at 150 celcius ??

Saw Rubine oven RBO-AVATA2-70SS 8F 70L going at RM1469.96 (GST included). Do you think is a good buy?