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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadband Thread V20, ( -_・) ︻デ═一▸ Maxis & Time

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post Jul 14 2015, 07:49 PM

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guess i wait then. rm 219 for 50mbps i'll bite doh.gif

penalty if get now and later try downgrade isn't it .... sneaky sneaky X_X:



PS: this was one of the emails i received. there no mention of a 50mbps package.

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"It has come to our attention that TM might have recently sent electronic direct marketing (EDM) e-mails that offered speed upgrades to selected UniFi customers. While that might not sound like something out of the ordinary, what made the EDM interesting is the speed upgrade of 30 Mbps."

http://www.lowyat.net/2015/07/is-tm-finall...nifi-customers/


they always spam me to upgrade rolleyes.gif



anyway my point is, email price 199..... the september launch price 169 ...... VERY SNEAKY tmnut. try get me locked into 199, when only 2 months later will be 169 ! fuckers almost got conned vmad.gif


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post Jul 14 2015, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(OKLY @ Jul 14 2015, 08:10 PM)
As per confirmed here, no indication of any UniFi 30 or UniFi 50 without HyppTV package.
QUOTE(christina1 @ Jul 14 2015, 08:14 PM)
Where u got the info 50MB gonna be RM219 in September 2015 ?
thats what i thought too as well. but now i hear from this user
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=75407503


that theres going to be a cheaper version of the unifi 30 and 50 come september. i think we need double confirmation on this matter doh.gif

but sounds like that september deal won't require any additional hypptv channels, so is cheaper.


PS: can someone visit the tmpoint and verify this thx icon_question.gif

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post Jul 14 2015, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(OKLY @ Jul 14 2015, 08:16 PM)
No rumors from credible sources for UniFi 30 or 50 without HyppTV package so can't jump to conclusion also.
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fair enuff. but to stay safe i'm gonna wait for september icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 14 2015, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Cynox @ Jul 14 2015, 08:19 PM)
my area dun even offer Unifi yet... stuck with Streamyx 8MB.  vmad.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 14 2015, 08:30 PM)
To name these two:
My hometown - Port Dickson, a famous touristy place. laugh.gif Other major telcos except UM already have 4G...
My sister's house which is at Seremban 2 area, the biggest township in Seremban... Next to her taman has but not her taman. doh.gif Those orang kaya at her taman who drive Porsche, Merc and etc all still struggle with Streamyx. doh.gif
oo i actually visited port dickson very recently on my vacation. reminded me of my hometown tawau. very relaxing and quiet.

but honestly beaches weren't that great, too much pollution sad.gif

yeah it felt a bit run down in port dickson. so i'm not that shocked there is lack of unifi there.

wah... even seremban also.... did you make a report to tmnut asking when they will offer unifi to your area ? Back when unifi was very new, this was what i did.

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QUOTE(Cynox @ Jul 14 2015, 08:43 PM)
lol..... within 20km of JB area...... i also shocking it takes forever for Unifi to be available at my area.  shakehead.gif
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singapore next door must be rolling their eyes
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back when i was living in johor, only had streamyx sweat.gif

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Jul 14 2015, 08:46 PM)
I am using 10 MB package, which has 10 MB download and 10 MB upload . I didnt realize the 30 MB VIP package has only 5 MB upload. Can I know if this will affect my online gaming? Will it improve or make it worst?
movies, tv series, music, gaming, streaming netflix, youtube, browsing the web...... all these things download is all that matters.

heck even bit torrent you don't upload max. so i reckon 5 and 10mbps upload is good enough for torrent.


only time you upload is like when

1. adding attachment files to your email
2. uploading images to imgur.com
3. torrent upload (yes you have to upload in order to download, thats how it works)
4. live stream your game over twitch.tv


Only major problem i see here is for streamers. 5mbps may not be enough even for 720p, or barely :/

50mbps dl with 10mbps seems fine for me, even when i'm streaming.


PS: in my logs, my upload is quite high, almost comparable to my download bandwidth. but this is mostly due to torrent i suspect. O.... forgot to mention upload speed could be important if your an active torrent seeder on a private tracker. to build your ratio so you can download more, you need to upload more. so a higher upload speed would help in those situations.


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holy crap. i didn't notice this
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3607157


hold OFF On 30 and 50mbps. we may actually get better deal yawn.gif with republic. if timing is right 2 year contrast 30 or 50mbps. then by time expire more likely can go republic sometime in 2018 for 100mbps for a fraction of the price shocking.gif

but is very unclear when. it says either in 2016-2018 ... even then no guarantee.

how much is penalty if want to cancel under contract hmm.gif

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QUOTE(OKLY @ Jul 15 2015, 02:57 AM)
As they will still be new in Malaysia, I'd say they would need about 2 years or so to mature, so just nice if UniFi's contract is renewed now.
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but it's not like they can instantly make their own fiber. i heard that sometime in 2015 tmnuts hsbb monopoly will end. does that means any isp can then use the hsbb network ?

not sure on the technical legal aspects surrounding other isps using the hsbb fiber network at that stage.

also will the government okay republics entry ? cheaper faster broadband, whats not to like ? (oh wait, must protect monopolies rolleyes.gif but what if majority share holder is malaysian ? should be ok then right ? honestly can't care if the shareholder is crony. just want speeds like that at that price drool.gif )

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Jul 15 2015, 08:06 AM)
right now any ISP can use TM HSBB network as long they can pay the wholesale price to TM.Like Maxis,Celcom,Redtone and others are doing.

If MyRepublic want to enter,there's no problem.Just pay to TM if they want to use the HSBB network.

The correct issue right now is the wholesale price offered by TM is cheap  for them.Because they need to sell it higher to consumer to get the profit.

If they don't want,they need to deploy the infra by themselves that will incur higher cost,like what TIME is doing right now.
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whats this about full llu (local loop unbundling). is this due in 2015-2016 when tmnuts hsbb monopoly in agreement expires ?
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/801570/all

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The deferment means that apart from bit streaming, full access, line sharing and sub-loop services will not be mandated in the access list which is up for review this year.

If these are not mandated, TM will not have to provide the services to the other players, a move seen by other industry players as protective of TM.

“The implementation of full access service, line sharing service and sub-loop service listed in the Commission Determination on Access List, ... where the facilities and services are provided over the HSBB network, shall be deferred for seven years from Sept 16, 2008 to Sept 15, 2015,’’ Energy, Water and Communications Minister said in a letter dated Sept 16, the same day the agreement with TM was inked.



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QUOTE(pakji @ Jul 15 2015, 09:19 AM)
2015 TM HSBB they will stop deploy another area ???
that mean my area wont get unifi  cry.gif
i had waiting my area still no unifi sad
i still use streamyx 4mb  sad.gif
well i think they signed some hsbb expansion part 2 or something, which is 10 years for completion. maybe the progress to expand is still ongoing ?


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TM to implement HSBB 2 and SUBB
Thursday, 26 February 2015

KUALA LUMPUR: Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™ announced the acceptance of a letter of award (LoA) from the Government for the implementation of the High Speed Broadband Phase 2 (HSBB 2) and Sub Urban Broadband (SUBB) projects.

In a filing with Bursa Malaysia, it said both projects were in collaboration with the Government to deploy the access and domestic core networks, to deliver an end-to-end HSBB infrastructure. – Bernama

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...SUBB/?style=biz

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11th Malaysia Plan: Broadband gets some love

MALAYSIAN Prime Minister Najib Razak announced six key thrusts under the 11th Malaysia Plan (11MP) to ensure the country hits its target of becoming a developed nation by 2020, and also announced further moves to expand high-speed broadband (HSBB) availability in the country.

Under two new infrastructure initiatives, households in state capitals and ‘high-impact growth areas’ will get 100Mbps broadband Internet connectivity, while rural areas will get 20Mbps broadband under the 11MP, the premier said. Efforts will be also be made through to drive down the cost of access.


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Broadband moves

High-speed broadband is critical for economic growth, the 11MP report states. According to an International Telecommunication Union (ITU) 2012 report, a 10% increase in broadband penetration will contribute 0.7 percentage points increase in Malaysia’s GDP.

Under the 10MP, High Speed Broadband (HSBB) and Broadband for General Population (BBGP) initiatives were rolled out in several states, raising the national broadband penetration from 55.6% in 2010 to 70.2% in 2014.

ICT infrastructure in the public sector, previously managed by individual ministries, was consolidated into 1Gov*Net in 2012, a centrally-managed dedicated network connecting 10,552 out of 11,268, or nearly 94%, of all Federal Government buildings.

Under the 1BestariNet programme, efforts were made to provide connectivity to schools to support teaching and learning. A total of 10,132 schools were connected through fibre (nine schools), WiMAX (6,628 schools), Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (1,086 schools), Very Small Aperture Terminal (2,129 schools), and wireless (280 schools).

Under the 11MP, the Government targets broadband infrastructure to reach 95% of populated areas, and to make broadband more affordable, targeting subscription prices at 1% of gross national income (GNI) per capita for fixed-lined broadband.

During the period in question (2016-2020), key infrastructure initiatives such as High-Speed Broadband 2 (HSBB 2) and Sub-Urban Broadband (SUBB) will be undertaken, along with policies to improve access pricing and consumer protection frameworks.

https://www.digitalnewsasia.com/digital-eco...-gets-some-love



also don't forget the work on the SKR1M undersea cable to connect the peninsular to borneo with a fiber optic cable
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so anyway as you can see there is a lot being done atm to improve our national broadband network.

But biggest question is, will a company like myrepublic that is planning on offering 100mbps for between rm 60-70 be allowed to operate in malaysia sometime between 205-2018 ?

specifically this under the 11th mp
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Strategy C2: Increasing affordability and protection for consumers through an improved Access Pricing Framework (APF) and setting standards for consumer protection;


if not, then we are screwed rclxub.gif

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If terminate after applying you have to pay the penalty (package price * remaining months). Also from what the operator told me, the special discounted price is only applicable for Unifi + HyppTV package.


wow.... so basically you may as well just keep on using service, otherwise it's money down the drain.

the only thing cancelling does, is freeing up the port so you can go with another isp. but (package price * remaining months) penalty is not worth doing so doh.gif not unless your damn rich.

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QUOTE(OKLY @ Jul 15 2015, 11:28 AM)
Then at least by then after the 2 years, we can see if the new player MyRepublic can live up to its hype. biggrin.gif
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“IT is a spectacular win for us and I am thrilled,” Malcolm Rodrigues (pic), founder and chief executive officer of Singapore-based fixed broadband provider MyRepublic, told Digital News Asia (DNA) on seasoned telco veteran Michael Lai joining his team.

“I used to worry about Malaysia, but now with Lai in charge of our fund-raising and new market entry, I don’t worry about Malaysia anymore. He knows everybody in the market and our Malaysia business plan will go very well with him at the helm,” said Rodrigues.

Malaysian Lai joins MyRepublic, a disruptive broadband player that started out in Singapore in 2011 and entered the New Zealand market late last year, as its chief development officer.

Besides helping with fund-raising, Lai will be responsible for MyRepublic’s entry into Malaysia and Cambodia. The company is also entering the Australian market soon.

Lai was with an Indonesian broadband player, Innovate Indonesia, before joining MyRepublic.


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“It’s not the size of the company but rather the responsibilities that come with the job that matter. If I were to sum it up in one word, it would be ‘Challenge.’ ... I’m consistently looking to break new barriers.

“This is what keeps me going and my adrenaline flowing – to be in the forefront and the coming age of the next big thing,” he said then.

Having joined MyRepublic, clearly Lai feels offering blazing fast fibre broadband at a fraction of the costs of incumbent players is what will get his adrenaline racing. And he knows he will find a receptive market in Malaysia.


not really sure who michael lai's contacts are, but he was credited getting p1 started in malaysia (though i haven't really hear any good performance from p1 laugh.gif )

maybe with his connections, myrepublic can get a foot inside the door so to speak nod.gif

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It said Lai made P1 the Southeast Asia showcase for 4G deployments and secured P1 representation on high profile international bodies such as the Global WiMAX Forum Board and the Global TD-LTE Initiative Steering Committee. Under Lai's leadership, it said P1 reached positive profits since the last quarter of 2011, which is the fastest telco to do so in Malaysia.



anyway full article here about him and his role :}
https://www.digitalnewsasia.com/mobile-telc...elco-myrepublic

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QUOTE(biloxee @ Jul 15 2015, 03:10 PM)
Isnt that for copper only with max speed of ADSL2+ @24 Mbits? So how to offer 50/100/1000 Mbits?
Is the fiber network that TM is building now to offer >24Mbits part of that? I don't think so.

By the time they unbundle the copper network, I believe TM would have covered all the major cities with fiber to offer speeds in excess of 24Mbits that they control. Sure, ADSL prices will drop then but it will be like a 1 Mbits Streamyx user today versus people who are on 10/20 Mbits Unifi?
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the llu they mention in article was for a copper adsl example. you can ignore the copper adsl, and replace with fiber. the concept works for that more or less. technology is different in some areas like copper adsl is very limited by range. ftth isn't.

point is the policy from llu to give isps greater accessibility to the network to use their own hardware to offer customized services and for cheaper.
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QUOTE(biloxee @ Jul 15 2015, 10:36 PM)
We don't live in a perfect world. In a perfect world, perhaps TM would not have been appointed to build the fiber network. Perhaps an independent infrastructure builder (non telco) would have been contracted to do the job. And when it was completed, all ISPs would be able to gain fair and open access to it and be in real competition.

In reality, TM is the one that has built/is still building. So, its probably prudent to not expect things to work like it would in a perfect world. So far they have done a pretty ok job I think...
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yes that may have been (sadly) required in order to build the hsbb. but now that is more or less built, is there any strong argument to keep the status quo ? we no longer have the last mile issue or even the international (undersea cable for bandwidth) issue.

so isn't it about time we open up ? hmm.gif thats my question.
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QUOTE(OKLY @ Jul 18 2015, 07:38 PM)
It will cause some rage to early adopters but who cares, TM is still monopolizing this. laugh.gif
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they already screwed over those 20mbps users. Though tbh i'm not sure if they can easily upgrade to the newer 30mbps package without having to pay penalty hmm.gif


QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Jul 18 2015, 05:17 PM)
well i just got call by tmnet for upgrade frm my unifi10 to 50mbps for free, no charges at all, no reapplying or anything. well i just say yes, then just confirming some information.
wah... how you get such a promotion ? You some bigshot ah ohmy.gif

the only thing i ever got from tmnut is just a bunch of spam mail asking me to upgrade. no freebie sad.gif



QUOTE(eternity4av @ Jul 18 2015, 04:24 PM)
If that's included GST, it would be more or less our current VIP20 price. Things are getting interesting nowadays as competition is getting tougher & stiffer. Been heard bad experience on Maxis, was wondering whether do they really got improved? My experience with Unifi from VIP5-10-20 aren't that bad actually. So this would be still the best platform to leverage on.
the only real competition is really just either tmnut unifi or maxis. even though i dislike tmnut, i'd say they tend to be more reliable than maxis :/ then again now maxis has a 100mbps which tmnut doesn't but then again only if you willing to pay through the roof for it rolleyes.gif

time is good, but sadly until now still only condo high rise buildings..... not really sure if their ever going to do the last mile for landed properties .... don't they want to compete with tmnut ?

myrepublic only heard of their interest to come over. also after watching the video regarding broadband prices, now i wonder how realistic rm 60-70 for 100mbps will be. Also what the performance especially would be like. And if thats not enuff, whether mcmc will issue the license for them to operate, and also carry out the LLU to open up the market for them hmm.gif



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QUOTE(arcaloveher @ Jul 20 2015, 03:53 PM)
It's harder for the older generation to pick up on tech stuff lol

Can someone shed some light on this?
well old people hard to learn new things ..... it's how the brain works .... when your younger your brain is more receptive in forming memories aka learning stuff. when you get older your brain is better at retrieving old info.

this why hard to teach older generation stuff rolleyes.gif

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Results show that young and older participants perform the memory task equally well, but the neural systems or pathways supporting performance differed between young and older individuals. While there was some overlap in the brain regions supporting performance (e.g. occipital, temporal and inferior prefrontal cortices), the neural communication among these common regions was much weaker in older individuals.

Older individuals compensated for this weakness by recruiting unique areas of the brain, including hippocampus and dorsal prefrontal cortices. Scientists are most fascinated by the older brain's activation of the hippocampus because this area is generally used for more complicated memory tasks such as learning lines from a Shakespeare play.


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Researchers have long believed that changes in brain neurons are associated with the formation of memories. Today, most experts believe that memory creation is associated with the strengthening of existing connections or the growth of new connections between neurons.

The connections between nerve cells are known as synapses, and they allow information carried in the form of nerve impulses to travel from one neuron to the next.

In the human brain, there are trillions of synapses forming a complex and flexible network that allows us to feel, behave, and think. It is the changes in the synaptic connections in areas of the brain such as the cerebral cortex and hippocampus that is associated with the learning and retention of new information.

In one study conducted at the New York School of Medicine, researchers were able to observe synapse formation in the brains of genetically engineered mice. What they discovered was that in young mice, the tiny protrusions that sometimes develop into longer spines on the receiving end of neurons grew at a rapid rate. This growth rate coincided with the rapid development of the visual cortex. While a large number of these tiny protrusions eventually faded with age, many did continue their formation into fully-fledged spines.

Lead researcher Wen-Biao Gan explained in an interview with the science website WhyFiles.org, "Our idea was that you actually don't need to make many new synapses and get rid of old ones when you learn, memorize.

You just need to modify the strength of the preexisting synapses for short-term learning and memory. However, it's likely that few synapses are made or eliminated to achieve long-term memory."

Clearly, maintaining a healthy brain and synapses is critical. Deterioration of synapses due to diseases or neurotoxins is associated with cognitive problems, memory loss, changes in mood, and other alterations in brain function.


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When we're young, the brain is constantly reshaping itself and making new synaptic connections based on learning and experiences, in a process known as neuroplasticity. The brain lose some of this youthful plasticity as we age, and we become less capable of making new neural connections.



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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/22/b..._n_7307662.html



anyway sorry for digressing but hopefully that sort of answered your question :}

Still old folks can still benefit from using facebook. it's not that hard to use, heck i know some people who can use facebook but know nothing else about tech usage doh.gif

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 21 2015, 10:04 AM)
i just bought rt-n18u, flash latest official firmware and factory reset.

but i ran into some problem where the wifi speed drop when my pc which is connected to the ethernet do speed test. in fact any internet activity will drop the wifi speed significantly. it drop very significantly from whatever max i have example 60Mbps down to like 250Kbps. Once the internet load go down, my wifi speed goes up max again. Funny. I would expect a drop of 10Mbps (Unifi 10Mbps) at most. But this doesnt seems to be the case. Any idea?
did you try flash shibby's latest firmware for this particular router ?
http://tomato.groov.pl/download/K26ARM/


This one "tomato-RT-N18U-ARM--130-AIO-64K.zip"


I think once downloaded, you need to extract the zip. then from your router gui, browse to the file to flash. Once done, access router, then factory reset. Make sure you nvram is ticked for enabled, so it does a clean factory reset.

After that you can change your router lan ip from default if you want. also add a secure password you can remember, or a complicated one which you save in a notepad somewhere, also on lastpass for convenience smile.gif

then setup wifi, and make sure using WPA2 with a complicated password. If too easy, people can easily crack. But then if the people in your immediate vicinity accessible to your wifi are idiots, then this is probably a non issue. But i prefer safety than being sorry later laugh.gif


Anyway, if you have any issues performance or bugs with shibbys firmware, make sure you report to him over in his official thread here, then he can make a fix and upload into a new firmware.

http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php?threa...releases.33858/


For Unifi setup, you need to do vlan tagging. You can do this for tomato. If i'm not mistaken this is the guide for doing that


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Go to Advanced -> VLAN
Set VLAN 1, VID = 497
Set VLAN 4, VID = 500, WAN Port = Yes, Tagged = ON
Set VID Offset = 496
Enable Trunk VLAN
Done, Reboot your router
theres also a unifi tomato help thread here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2571693/all


hope this helped flex.gif


PS: only internet and iphone work. not the hypptv if your okay with that.


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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Jul 21 2015, 08:42 AM)
For those who received the e-mail, they already entitled to be upgraded, you can either call 100 to upgrade or just visit TM point. Because the golden question that they always asked me regardless 100 or TM point is, do you received any phone calls or e-mail from TM on the first place? So if you did, most likely it can be done
upgrade what ? and how much hmm.gif

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 21 2015, 11:22 AM)
Y cant hypptv works? iptv vlan for unifi is 600
for vlan tagging i use a separate microtik rb250gs smart switch which has vlan tagging capability. this one last time i tested worked for hypttv as well.

but for tomato, i heard hypptv on vlan does not work. why that is, or if that is still the case, i'm unsure. but i don't think it will hmm.gif

i think dd-wrt also has this issue.

but honestly it shouldn't be a big deal. popcorn time is so much better than hypptv doh.gif


anyway you can try setup vlan for 600 and see if that works ? so instead of 2 vlans, you'd have 3. internet, phone and iptv doh.gif


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