QUOTE(johnnymiyake @ Oct 23 2019, 01:27 PM)
BB58 and BB GMT got waiting list, you think they layan you about discount ke Like Rolex, u dunwan they just call the next fella down the list. Other models can get.
The Rolex / Tudor Watches Club V1, Is time to have this now?
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Oct 23 2019, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Lexelite @ Oct 23 2019, 11:35 AM) should be 15k++ Don't play their stupid games. I'm pretty sure eventually the BB GMT supply will catch up.the last week AWG at Mid valley southkey called me and told me there is a BB GMT there but their condition is you need to get another tudor together with the gmt.. was thinking about it but couldnt make the trip down. feeling so wasted. |
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Oct 23 2019, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(Lexelite @ Oct 23 2019, 02:36 PM) no la.. BB GMT no discount wan. same as the BB bronze and BB 58 or the BB dark. BB bronze got discount. BB Dark also. You want go my AD fella i make him gip u discount. That other 2 won't have.as far as i know event the BB chrono dark limited edition has no discount. those are the 5 models sure no discount for this time. all other Tudor sure can get 10 to 15% depending on models. but now a days i can see some BB bronze and BB dark sitting around de. to me the best 3 looking Tudor are 1. BB chrono dark limited edition 2. BB GMT 3. BB58. dunno why i dont like the normal BB chrono. the dark is damn sexy. QUOTE(Lexelite @ Oct 23 2019, 02:46 PM) well it really depends on Basel world 2020. Doubt there will be a batman version. I'd be genuinely surprised if they do it. Might see a smaller or slimmer version though since they have the new movement that was done for bb58, but have to mod a bit. Or just new colourways for the bb58 given its popularity.if they come out with a GMT batman im pretty sure the current pepsi will get stock cause every one will be chasing that. i have been on the list since feb this year.. so nothing much i can do.. continue to wait i guess.. |
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Oct 24 2019, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(Sevensomerset @ Oct 24 2019, 09:51 AM) wtf tudor also need to wait... BB58's the only 'normal' BB with a wait list and a new movement. That should tell you something.i see japan kamekichi gt tudor gmt ley quite cheap... worth buy frm there? going tokyo soon bte, bb58 so good meh? it’s 39mm small size let, small nice meh? although is new... but only black color i like the burgundy bb 40mm(or 41?) one Although, it's not better or worse, just different in size and style. |
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QUOTE(Sevensomerset @ Oct 24 2019, 10:32 AM) alamak... tats the thing i dun understand... lol You forgot a new movement just for it.only smaller size and style... some more 39mm, quite small... Market is moving towards 39mm, exactly because there are no other BBs at that size. I'm sure they will come out with new 58's with different colour way and the stock will goes up again like the current 41mm ones. |
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Oct 31 2019, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(SImPle PLan @ Nov 7 2019, 12:24 AM) How is that bronze? Edit: I had a look, the markers and hands have bronze accent. No one talks about it partly because its not a popular model.. and I think the one you talking about is an old model right? This post has been edited by fuzzy: Nov 7 2019, 09:37 AM |
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Depending on which Seiko, but the it does pale in comparison.
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Nov 18 2019, 04:12 PM
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Moonwatch have been an institution for ages now.
Daytona was something retailers couldn't give away for free until they got Paul Newman. Thats why one can't really move the needle that much other than those special editions while the other can keep pushing it forward. That said, moonwatch > daytona. |
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Nov 19 2019, 10:13 AM
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I have to disagree on a few points here:
QUOTE(kotmj @ Nov 18 2019, 11:52 PM) Daytona vs Moonwatch: They are only superficially in the same segment, that of luxury chronos. The moonwatch was and is built very much like watches of that era. Precious little water resistance (most watches of that era had a press fit caseback), manual winding, corroding dial and hands, etc. Just look at older Omegas. Their dials and hands age very poorly. The speedmasters was build for car racing and the now moonwatch was tested and fit exactly to NASA's requirement. Thus, it is built for purpose and therefore isn't any need for water resistance. There's this weird obsession with watch fans about water resistance rating, when for the majority the only diving they do is desk diving. There could be two reasons why you see older Omegas that age very poorly. Firstly, there are way more cheap Omegas sold than Rolex, especially in the US. Secondly, Rolex are notorious for swiping every single thing they feel is ripe for a change, including any aged hands and dial. There's a reason why all those tropics dial or spider dials for Rolex is most sought after, despite the fact that it's a defective dial. QUOTE Rolex was always different. It always had to be better. Like all Rolex, sparkle was paramount (today, Grand Seiko has out-sparkled Rolex). To give more sparkle to its watches, Rolex was one of the first to use the super sparkly ceramic as a bezel. Until today, it refuses to AR coat its sapphire crystal, because it reflects more light (but Rolex AR coats its cyclops, to make the date clearer). Water resistance was paramount, so you have screw down crowns and pushers and an automatic movement to prevent the user having to unscrew the crown everyday to wind it, wearing down the gaskets. A lot of water ingress is due to corrosion in the case where the case gasket is. Sweat accumulates there, and over the decades cause pitting in the steel. To prevent this, Rolex uses a particularly corrosion resistant alloy. Dial and hands are very corrosion-proof. The watch is always delivered on an indestructible bracelet that is always state-of-the-art. Even a rubber strap by Rolex is indestructible, because it's really a steel bracelet that is coated with rubber. The bracelet is secured to the watch with spring bars which are double the thickness of other manufacturers. Once strapped to your wrist, the Rolex remains there until something very traumatic happens, or you take it off. Precision is paramount, so +/- 2s/day. Again, I think you are conflating few different things here. There's a moonwatch, there's the Speedmaster range and theres the Daytona range. Why would water resistance be paramount to a piece meant to be used to time race, or to be in space? In fact given the limited 'manoeuvrity' of a driver and an astronaut, screw down crown just complicates thing. Is a lack of screwdown crowns an issue? The moonwatch have been tested up in space and in the coldest of Arctics, so I doubt there's much of an issue here. I don't understand about the automatic movement. The earlier Daytona's were all manual winding. It was not until the 90's (?) that it became automatic. The speedy's had an automatic movement in the late 90's with it's co-axial, rather than modified movement from another party, which if it was, they could have shoved it in way earlier. I'll leave the last point be, as while the case might be, I've never came across any case ever of people complaining about corrosion due to sweat accumulation in any Omegas or Rolex or, pretty much any decent watch to be honest. QUOTE The reality is, Omega was always a moribund large manufacturer which is bureaucratic and not creative. Rolex was entrepreneurial. IBM vs Apple. The reality is the moonwatch's significance overshadows everything else. The Speedmaster range is incredibly diverse but moonwatch remains one of Omega's top seller and people are looking for the exact same thing that accompanied three humans up to the moon. Thus the moonwatch keeps being churned out exactly it is 40 years or so ago with better materials but essentially unchanged. People forget that Daytona was a failure in the early days, it was dominated by the likes of Heuer and Omega in the racing world, it lost out to Omega in the space race and it wasn't until Rolex itself became a luxury brand in the late 2000's or so that Daytona's were cast under a new light and became sought after. Thus, the Daytona had to keep on being changed until it found something that helped it sell, which apparently is the name itself. ![]() Edit: bolded changed to reflect earlier error. This post has been edited by fuzzy: Nov 19 2019, 10:41 AM |
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QUOTE(ck77 @ Nov 19 2019, 10:22 AM) Nice elaborate bro, however, I would like to comment that it was indeed NASA chose speedmater as moonwatch, but it was not built for NASA's requirement. My bad, it could have been worded much better. What I meant was exactly that, it fulfilled all of NASA's requirements. Here's another great read about how Speedy was chosen (it's in German so you have to use the translate function) with the NASA documents as well. NASA tested original spec of speedmaster ref 105.003 and it passed all tests. https://www.fratellowatches.com/speedmaster...came-moonwatch/ Part 1: https://bellevue.nzz.ch/uhren-schmuck/omega...files-ld.120476 Part 2: https://bellevue.nzz.ch/uhren-schmuck/die-o...eil-2-ld.120479 |
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QUOTE(ck77 @ Nov 19 2019, 02:44 PM) No worries bro Omega produce LE Speedy more often than KFC change their chicken flavour menu But Omega did produced 56 pieces Speedmaster based on NASA's requirement in 1978 for Space Shuttle program. https://www.fratellowatches.com/omega-speed...dial-dial-1978/ [sorry off topic |
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QUOTE(kitzai @ Nov 22 2019, 09:45 AM) QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Nov 22 2019, 09:54 AM) i think so, most places still trying to sell at RRP Have to check if its bracelet. 13950 macam ada diskaun liao, usually RM15k i think? not sure Usually the discount one is those nobody wants i.e. NATO or leather. The bracelet itself, if you buy from Tudor separately, is around 2-3k, but the differentiation between a bracelet and leather was only couple hundred. |
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Nov 22 2019, 11:17 AM) Depends on AD la.. some AD all also sell RRP, and the RRP have gone up as they revised the price earlier this year. But if the other two less demand, no choice but to give some discount lo. No doubt the bracelet is the hottest one. |
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From the archives. It's back on the bracelet again.
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