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 Armesh's training career, Summary of key points

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post Sep 26 2016, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 25 2016, 11:52 PM)
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alo bro, d 1.25kg d shop is still there? onli available offline? tq. d gym m goin didnt hav dat..
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http://www.lelong.com.my/1-25kg-tri-grip-p...7-01-Sale-P.htm

LOL. The shop still there but item sold out. Click the "Visit My Store" , can contact seller and ask.
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post Sep 26 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Sep 26 2016, 12:08 AM)
http://www.lelong.com.my/1-25kg-tri-grip-p...7-01-Sale-P.htm

LOL. The shop still there but item sold out. Click the "Visit My Store" , can contact seller and ask.
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ouch, thanks for info
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post Mar 21 2017, 10:20 PM

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Decided not to train for the next 8 months due to being on isotetrinoin @ 40 ~ 60mg/day. It's a very dangerous medicine. Also started working full-time since Jun last year, come home late and tired everyday.

Committed to do an MRI for my L5 injury 2 years ago (see page 1), the one that happened cause sleep 1 side every day. Probably slight L5 herniation. No big deal (I can RDL 100kg pain free), champions have multiple herniation anyway.
Lesson: If you are a lifter, be sure to sleep straight on your back

Lateral Delt strain from incline lying lateral raise 95% recovered. Since I won't be lifting maybe I'll just spend RM 100 and do a ultrasound to see if I tear something that need surgical repair or not. Don't think it's anything beside bad strain that healed.
Lesson: Perfect form won't ever get you injured is A MYTH! If you push yourself hard enough with pure willpower and put maximal tension on the muscle you can strain it/rip your tendon. Got to know quite lot people get pec tears form "forced reps"

Having some crack crack sound and nerve/muscle cramming pain in my left neck since Jan last year. When to massage it at chiro and it's 50% better. Something to do with the way I sit on computer (I am software developer) and sleep. Prolly have to change my sleeping pillow and mouse/keyboard position. Orto doctor said got small crack at my neck bone there after checking xrays. Wonder how the fuck I got it???
Lesson: ?? nothing lol


Instead be dedicating time to:
1) Dedicate free time Learn Mandarin, if you know a good tutor do say
2) Have a fucking life

Fear of Losing muscle?
With muscle memory, it'll prolly take me only 5 months to quickly bounce back to intermediate standard (exrx chart). I did this before so it doesn't bother me much. And after all my injuries/medical conditions heal, and I quit my job, training will be far more ideal. Gains can wait.

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post Mar 21 2017, 10:36 PM

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Man, you are the most injury prone person I have ever come across. It's like you're made out of glass. And I mean no offense when I say that. Take good care man.

Why can't you lift though? There are so many ways to work around those injuries setbacks. If I'm injured, just sitting at home would make it worse. How are you treating your slight herniation? Is it a confirmed diagnosis or just something you Googled?
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post Mar 21 2017, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 21 2017, 10:36 PM)
Man, you are the most injury prone person I have ever come across. It's like you're made out of glass. And I mean no offense when I say that. Take good care man.

Why can't you lift though? There are so many ways to work around those injuries setbacks. If I'm injured, just sitting at home would make it worse. How are you treating your slight herniation? Is it a confirmed diagnosis or just something you Googled?
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It's only that L5 thing. Other all usual tendonitis/strain that everyone gets here and there. Confirmed diagnosis need do MRI first, Hospital Ampang machine broken so need wait like 3 months zzzz. X-ray showed all normal. I can lift fine, do everything fine actually, I just wan to get it checked for fun.

I'm not lifting due to Accutane / Isotetrinoin. You can google Accutane side effects. My nose also inside got abit abit blood edy, and slight pressure in skull is noticeable, lips are cracked and bleed abit, eyes dry, heels pain when walk.
http://www.acne.org/accutane.html
Scroll down to side effects and see Local/General/Lab tabs.

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post Mar 22 2017, 06:52 AM

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Side track here Abit. Unless you have severe form of acne, I really don't see why you should be taking isotretinoin for acne. Did the Dr prescribed the meds for your condition? Are steroids and topical treatment insufficient for yr acne?
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Mar 22 2017, 06:52 AM)
Side track here Abit. Unless you have severe form of acne, I really don't see why you should be taking isotretinoin for acne. Did the Dr prescribed the meds for your condition? Are steroids and topical treatment insufficient for yr acne?
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I just read the side effects. Dear Armesh, like for real, did a real and professional doctor prescribe you the medicine? The list of side effects is no joke and not something I'd fool around with if I never had had a professional consultation. Even straight up steroids have a shorter list of the side effects. I really hope you're not simply popping the pills at your own accord. Hardly seems worth it in my opinion to put your health at risk that way.
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Mar 22 2017, 06:52 AM)
Side track here Abit. Unless you have severe form of acne, I really don't see why you should be taking isotretinoin for acne. Did the Dr prescribed the meds for your condition? Are steroids and topical treatment insufficient for yr acne?
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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 22 2017, 08:28 AM)
I just read the side effects. Dear Armesh, like for real, did a real and professional doctor prescribe you the medicine? The list of side effects is no joke and not something I'd fool around with if I never had had a professional consultation. Even straight up steroids have a shorter list of the side effects. I really hope you're not simply popping the pills at your own accord. Hardly seems worth it in my opinion to put your health at risk that way.
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Yes got prescription, and I do liver function blood test also. I took it before for 1 year 2 months from 2015(Jan)~2016(Feb) (factor why my gains sucked and certain injuries). Chest/Back/Face Acne gone after that. Now after 10 months my face relapsed (chest and back fully clear permanently most prolly), and I am having cystic acne again on my face. So this is my second and final course, it's only 6 months+ course, cause the acne is only 40% of what I had last time. If relapse again after this I just gonna control it with tretinoin.

I have been suffering from cystic acne vulgaris on my face - chest - back since 2014 and spent almost RM 4000 on medicines and doctor fees.
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Mar 22 2017, 08:46 AM)
Yes got prescription, and I do liver function blood test also. I took it before for 1 year 2 months from 2015(Jan)~2016(Feb) (factor why my gains sucked and certain injuries). Chest/Back/Face Acne gone after that. Now after 10 months my face relapsed (chest and back fully clear permanently most prolly), and I am having cystic acne again on my face. So this is my second and final course, it's only 6 months+ course, cause the acne is only 40% of what I had last time. If relapse again after this I just gonna control it with tretinoin.

I have been suffering from cystic acne vulgaris on my face - chest - back since 2014 and spent almost RM 4000 on medicines and doctor fees.
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Damn man, that's some serious shit right there. All the best and good luck on your recovery.
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post Mar 29 2017, 01:40 PM

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Back from Physiotherapy at Hospital Ampang. Physio guy was real cool.

He say Xray show that my spine is perfectly fine. Then he also apply pressure on my spine and there was no pain. So he said surely cannot be any disk herniation, and spine is healthy but very stiff.

But what we did find was that my hamstring and ass were super tight. Like really horrible hamstring flexibility. Like really really really bad so bad that we were laughing at how bad it is. He told even the grandmas are more flexible than me and I should take yoga classes. And I have anterior pelvic tilt, being a programmer doesn't help for sure.

Basically he suspects the little ache I feel is because the extreme tight hams and glutes which are pulling the spine in a bad way causing slight compression on my root nerve sometimes.

Guess my body is also stiff and hardheaded, just like me.

I've been extremely stiff since Kindergarten itself, my whole body is stiff, and always been. Not caused by lifting.
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post Mar 29 2017, 02:22 PM

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Do you ever do any mobility and flexibility stuff? Like foam rolling, swings, stretches? That can be a good area to focus on for now since you can't lift yet. It doesn't take much time and doesn't tax your body at all. Limber 11 and/or Agile 8 are good starting routines to get your body more mobile.
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post Mar 29 2017, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 29 2017, 02:22 PM)
Do you ever do any mobility and flexibility stuff? Like foam rolling, swings, stretches? That can be a good area to focus on for now since you can't lift yet. It doesn't take much time and doesn't tax your body at all. Limber 11 and/or Agile 8 are good starting routines to get your body more mobile.
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Really hate stretching cause I'm so so stiff and it burns. Moreover my flexibility pose Zero limits on my lifting and I can squat super deep with perfect form also. Except deadlifts where hamstring flexibility is an issue, but I don't do deadlifts. So never had any motivation/reason to stretch.

But now it looks like I have to consistently stretch my lower posterior (hams and glutes). Gonna design a stretching routine and start doing it consistently. Will also see if taking any classes/massage will help or not. The physio said I can also try go for those muscle release massages to help with the ham/glute tightness besides yoga classes.

I just realized I have a way of sitting where I put my right leg ontop my left leg when sitting, so my right glute is always stretched. Which is one BIG reason why my left glute is much tighter than right. Have to watch this habits also from now.

I'm aware on Agile 8/Limber 11 .

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Mar 29 2017, 02:33 PM)
Really hate stretching cause I'm so so stiff and it burns. Moreover my flexibility pose Zero limits on my lifting and I can squat super deep with perfect form also. Except deadlifts where hamstring flexibility is an issue, but I don't do deadlifts. So never had any motivation/reason to stretch.

But now it looks like I have to consistently stretch my lower posterior (hams and glutes). Gonna design a stretching routine and start doing it consistently. Will also see if taking any classes/massage will help or not. The physio said I can also try go for those muscle release massages to help with the ham/glute tightness besides yoga classes.

I just realized I have a way of sitting where I put my right leg ontop my left leg when sitting, so my right glute is always stretched. Which is one BIG reason why my left glute is much tighter than right. Have to watch this habits also from now.

I'm aware on Agile 8/Limber 11 .
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Wut? You don't deadlift? Why? confused.gif Never mind, don't answer that.

Anyhow, sounds like you know the root cause of your troubles and how to solve it. Fill us in on your stretching routine when you've designed it, I'd like to know more.
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post Mar 30 2017, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 29 2017, 03:00 PM)
Wut? You don't deadlift? Why? confused.gif Never mind, don't answer that.

Anyhow, sounds like you know the root cause of your troubles and how to solve it. Fill us in on your stretching routine when you've designed it, I'd like to know more.
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I do RDLs, with 5-6RM. Excellent hamstring/trap builder and allows stretching hamstring at the same time. Actually thinking to drop RDLs and do hamstring curls/shrugs/rack pulls instead for the rest of my life, cause I feel risk in herniating L5 disk doing RDLs.

Already planned a stretching routine. Chosen stretches are:

Hamstring:
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I find this way best and most relaxing. Can to do easily anywhere got table or chair.
The lying hams stretch with towel the physio ask me do I really can't cause I need pull the towel with my arms to hold my leg up thus I can't relax into the stretch at all. All that pulling with towel also caused me to strain some back muscles at my scapula. So fuck that towel ham stretch. However stretching my hams have 0 effect on my condition.

Piriformis:
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I prefer this sitting way compared to the lying down and pulling my tight up manually way that the physio ask me do. I actually feel good after stretching my left glute that the physio say is too tight.

Psoas:
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So after doing some self research I realized Psoas tightness can also cause sciatic like pain. They connect to the spine bones and can pull your spine to one side if tight causing sciatica. So I added in a Psoas stretch also. Weirdly enough, Strecthing my right Psoas instantly makes all my symtoms disappear!. So yea definitely doing this too.

Stretching Routing
I stretch each of those 3 for 2 minutes per session. Each session just takes 10 minutes. I do the stretching sessions every 1~2 hours in office, and one last time before going to bed. So that's 5~6 stretching sessions per day for those 3. My office got nap room and a bean bag room to lie down and chill so that's where I do the session.

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post Apr 21 2017, 10:52 PM

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Hamstring flexibility improved drastically after aggressive daily 1 hour of stretching. After 3~4 days in a row of stretching I get abit sore so I take a day off. Went to Physio@hospital Ampang yesterday again. They say my hamstring flex is def improved and my glutes are no longer super tight. Physio said I have posterior pelvic tilt/flat back and the weird thing is BOTH my hams & psoas are tight. So he said I am special case hahaha. Next appt is next month 19. Now can reach ankles, maybe 1 more month can touch toe.

However my symptoms has not improved despite increase flex. Today whole day at office lower back/ass constantly aching and it's still hurting right now. For the MRI they say I only can get it NEXT YEAR due to the queue. Now thinking if I should use RM 1200 and do MRI @ HUKM cause I really cannot tahan and scared this condition cause permanent nerve damage. My gut feeling strongly feels I laterally displaced something slightly 2 years ago and it is pinching some nerve causing all that ache and it has nothing to do with disc injury. My gut feeling has been 100% right for all illnesses I ever had in the past.

The isotetrinoin is really kicking in now, elbows joint hurt opening car doors and turning steering. Face was FUCKED last month and a few people at office asked me why my face is so fucked with so many giant pimples. Just jokingly said 2nd puberty hahahaha. Currently face filled with dark marks but 0 lesions. Lips are extremely dry. The skull pressure, extreme tiredness & dry eyes side effects subsided and faded, body probs got used to it.

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post Sep 8 2017, 09:30 AM

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so if all goes well, you'll get back to training in november right?

i'm on 2nd month of isotretinoin meds and i was perplexed why i didn't suffer as much as you do but turns out when i asked the doctor he prescribed me a measly dosage of 10mg daily. hence no bad side effects for me so far except for the dry lips (thank god) but the caveat is i need to commit to the meds for at least one year. sweat.gif

did you get similar high dosage during your first course of isotretinoin too?
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Sep 8 2017, 09:30 AM)
so if all goes well, you'll get back to training in november right?

i'm on 2nd month of isotretinoin meds and i was perplexed why i didn't suffer as much as you do but turns out when i asked the doctor he prescribed me a measly dosage of 10mg daily. hence no bad side effects for me so far except for the dry lips (thank god) but the caveat is i need to commit to the meds for at least one year. sweat.gif

did you get similar high dosage during your first course of isotretinoin too?
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First course 20mg for 1 year 3 months. Low dose gave me perfect skin but didn't seal up the pores properly. So break again.

I don't have much sides, just tired cause my liver is being strained 24-7.
Training also causes liver enzymes to increase to I don't want stress it more. If it fails I die.

Acne was bad even after 4 months on isotretinoin face was still inflamed with boils.
Doctor also like wtf "this shouldn't happen??" and gave me injections on my face to bring them down.

Now after 5months+ on isotretinoin still breaking out, so doctor prescribed amoxicillin for 1 month. Just finished it yesterday.
Really helped eliminate most of the remaining boils and bring down inflammation.

I'll finish my course on November.
After discussing with my doctor we agreed to put me on maintenance dose isotetrinoin (30mg / week) and use topical retinoid for the rest of my life due to the persistence of my acne.

So my advice to you, if your acne is bad, after your 10mg course clear you up, get on a maintenance plan.
10mg will clear u up, but I doubt it will seal those pores permanently. Don't wanna collect permanent scarring.

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Sep 8 2017, 10:04 AM)
First course 20mg for 1 year 3 months. Low dose gave me perfect skin but didn't seal up the pores properly. So break again.

I don't have much sides, just tired cause my liver is being strained 24-7.
Training also causes liver enzymes to increase to I don't want stress it more. If it fails I die.

Acne was bad even after 4 months on isotretinoin face was still inflamed with boils.
Doctor also like wtf "this shouldn't happen??" and gave me injections on my face to bring them down.

Now after 5months+ on isotretinoin still breaking out, so doctor prescribed amoxicillin for 1 month. Just finished it yesterday.
Really helped eliminate most of the remaining boils and bring down inflammation.

I'll finish my course on November.
After discussing with my doctor we agreed to put me on maintenance dose isotetrinoin (30mg / week) and use topical retinoid for the rest of my life due to the persistence of my acne.

So my advice to you, if your acne is bad, after your 10mg course clear you up, get on a maintenance plan.
10mg will clear u up, but I doubt it will seal those pores permanently. Don't wanna collect permanent scarring.
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yikes, that's a pretty rough journey. cry.gif i really hope i won't relapse after my first course. that'd certainly suck. but i guess once i finish i should discuss about having maintenence dose with my doctor just to be safe.

where did you get the meds?
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Sep 8 2017, 11:27 AM)
yikes, that's a pretty rough journey.  cry.gif i really hope i won't relapse after my first course. that'd certainly suck. but i guess once i finish i should discuss about having maintenence dose with my doctor just to be safe.

where did you get the meds?
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http://drugtopics.modernmedicine.com/drug-...ulgaris-relapse

In that study cumulative "low-dose" was 170.8 mg/kg. And in their low-dose group, 43.8% relapse.
If you do 10mg/day for 1 year... I think you cummulative dose is wayyyy lower than that study also.

So yeah, get the maintenance.

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post Nov 22 2017, 08:17 PM

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What happened?
I stopped my isotetrinoin course about last month instead of November.
Even after my course I am still have 1 boil on my face:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zjQYquxXoCKG7bUq1
Nodules/Cyst are hard acne lesions lodged deep within the skin and contain blood&pus and are very painful. They don't look bad on camera cause it's under the skin.


I had horrible joint pain and bleeding gums while on, elbow pain opening doors and blood brushing teeth.
But all sides are gone within 3 weeks of discontinuing. Finally can train if I want to.

Maintenance therapy
Decided to go on maintenance dose for life , 10mg x 3 / week (dermatologist prescribed)
Also using Tazoractene 0.1% (dermatologist prescribed) nightly for 2 weeks now. Slight burning/redness but handling it fine, guess I really have a thick face lol.
Scary to think I can never donate blood cause it's toxic.
I am also using some scar cream from my derm to fade those red scars, the cream is really good. It should be hydroquine.

Scars, and my weird ability
There's some scaring but it'll probably heal.
I had bad scaring from cystic acne during 2014 my first isotetrinoin course but all the scars healed.
Even my arms don't have those typical vaccine injection scars:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ehuaZwTOZn1C0lGg2



My Body?
This is how I look now, after not training for about 8 months:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fvz7Wa7jzZFSAHp92 @60kg
Can do 5 bodyweight pullups and dips.
When I was active training I could do +10kg dips/pullups @65kg bw for 5RM.

Where and I and what I am doing?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vy7AaAqyUZKmPNSD2

Since June I have moved to Singapore to live and work now.
I felt it's not worth it to work in Malaysia after the rampant corruption scandals which crushed the currency.
I checked the gym prices here and they are 1:0.8, e.g Malaysia is RM 80 here is SGD70.
Super expensive so honestly I rather save the time/money.
Focus on #5figures #money .

Knowledge share
Recently Friends of Freedom also released video discussing acne among steroid users. They presented the 10mg every other day protocol also similar as my maintenance to maintain baby smooth skin while on cycle.

https://anabolictv.com/2018/07/permanent-ac...-purposes-only/

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