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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Feb 27 2015, 06:08 PM)
Hey guys, just got a new Zotac GTX 960 non-AMP edition from Storekini. The temps maxed out at 81 degrees while my previous Asus AMD Radeon HD7850 maxed out at 63 degrees. Is it normal? What should I check?
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normal i think, the cooler looks similar with the gtx 970 and the max temp hits 79'c. http://www.pcgameware.co.uk/reviews/graphi...gtx-970-review/

Try improve the airflow of your pc.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 27 2015, 07:53 PM)
Dude ure just now digressing to the misled saga.

I was addressing ure remark about feature. Atleast now u know

Simple question does 295x2 have 8gb.. Titan z 12gb n is it written on the box. Lets not even go further back on all dual gpu single card back to 7950gx2 n 3870x2. Is there any mention on their spec only half is useable.

In retrospect the 970 does have a useable 4gb. So why nobody is harping about it before??

The 970 for what the current feature now is inline with the price. A lot of ppl were happy initially thinking nvidia was stupid by selling a card cheaper by 40% with same amount of rop/l2 n full 4gb of a 980.

The ones i pity is those who slied for 4k. This guys were truly misled n not getting the performance they expected.

Rest single card @1080p user wont see any diff.
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No one try to misled anyone. A lie is a lie.

Two wrong does not make one right. Many wrong does not make one right. Especially nowadays we all assume single card is contiguous memory.
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Feb 27 2015, 06:08 PM)
Hey guys, just got a new Zotac GTX 960 non-AMP edition from Storekini. The temps maxed out at 81 degrees while my previous Asus AMD Radeon HD7850 maxed out at 63 degrees. Is it normal? What should I check?
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That is also a lie from nVidia and their fanboy talking about low temp. When you game, both nvidia and amd have almost the same heat.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 27 2015, 09:40 PM)
That is also a lie from nVidia and their fanboy talking about low temp. When you game, both nvidia and amd have almost the same heat.
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Not really a lie, their Maxwell card did output lesser heat compare to AMD's offering just that some OEM didn't put any effort for the cooling unit.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 27 2015, 07:53 PM)
Dude ure just now digressing to the misled saga.

I was addressing ure remark about feature. Atleast now u know

Simple question does 295x2 have 8gb.. Titan z 12gb n is it written on the box. Lets not even go further back on all dual gpu single card back to 7950gx2 n 3870x2. Is there any mention on their spec only half is useable.

In retrospect the 970 does have a useable 4gb. So why nobody is harping about it before??

The 970 for what the current feature now is inline with the price. A lot of ppl were happy initially thinking nvidia was stupid by selling a card cheaper by 40% with same amount of rop/l2 n full 4gb of a 980.

The ones i pity is those who slied for 4k. This guys were truly misled n not getting the performance they expected.

Rest single card @1080p user wont see any diff.
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You are missing the point. Whether or not the card performs great for its price, that's a different story.

Nvidia is being sued for the gimping of the last 0.5GB, not because of the card's performance as a whole. People are upset about the last 0.5GB VRAM and people are angry about Nvidia not being truthful WHEN ASKED innitially. Remember, it took them nearly a week to come out with a simple report.

970 performs great? Sure. Numbers hasn't changed, that's true. No one is angry about that.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Feb 27 2015, 08:24 PM)
normal i think, the cooler looks similar with the gtx 970 and the max temp hits 79'c. http://www.pcgameware.co.uk/reviews/graphi...gtx-970-review/

Try improve the airflow of your pc.
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Alright thanks for the info. Not sure if the temps can be reduced by replacing the thermal paste.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 27 2015, 09:44 PM)
You are missing the point. Whether or not the card performs great for its price, that's a different story.

Nvidia is being sued for the gimping of the last 0.5GB, not because of the card's performance as a whole. People are upset about the last 0.5GB VRAM and people are angry about Nvidia not being truthful WHEN ASKED innitially. Remember, it took them nearly a week to come out with a simple report.

970 performs great? Sure. Numbers hasn't changed, that's true. No one is angry about that.
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not sure what u guys do for a living.I have seen so many heinous acts in banking/retail etc in the world that drastically affects a human beings live. Yet ppl are so ignorant about it.


And one thing in big corporation when a mistake is made. Find the fault, audit the issue and then come out with a reply. Its not a one man show. The issue is not big enough for everybody in the company to stop working and come out with a next day reply. I guess a lot of you havent reached to a position of authority yet and see legal issues etc.

Lets see what the court sees. Doubt it will ever be a jury trial ( Quoting from legal knowledge of the US by watching Suits)

But truly its those who slied the card expecting good performance for 4k etc.. is the one thats really got a lot to complain about on that vram limitation.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 27 2015, 09:40 PM)
That is also a lie from nVidia and their fanboy talking about low temp. When you game, both nvidia and amd have almost the same heat.
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Lol nobody said theres a difference then one has a hoover running.
Nvidia default fan profile maxes out at 60% is like AMD stock idle sound


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 27 2015, 09:52 PM)
not sure what u guys do for a living.I have seen so many heinous acts in banking/retail etc in the world that drastically affects a human beings live. Yet ppl are so ignorant about it.
And one thing in big corporation when a mistake is made. Find the fault, audit the issue and then come out with a reply. Its not a one man show. The issue is not big enough for everybody in the company to stop working and come out with a next day reply. I guess a lot of you havent reached to a position of authority yet and see legal issues etc.

Lets see what the court sees. Doubt it will ever be a jury trial ( Quoting from legal knowledge of the US by watching Suits)

But truly its those who slied the card expecting good performance for 4k etc.. is the one thats really got a lot to complain about on that vram limitation.
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Wow, what a load of assumption you're throwing there. Sorry, but WHO are you again to throw those assumptions on what people do for a living or where they are at their stage of their lifes? That's quite insulting.

And who said people are ignorant about misleading marketing from other sectors? Seems to me like you're being ignorant about thinking people are ignorant about other issues. But lete's not go off-topic, this is about the 970 not about other things.

Oh and yes, I SLI'd a 970 to play at 1440p and even then, I'm getting stutters. So I have the right to complain. For those who play on 1080p or lower, they still have the right to complain, whether or not their 970 are stuttering. Who's to say that games in the near future wouldn't breach 3.5GB of VRAM at 1080p? You? blink.gif

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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Feb 27 2015, 09:46 PM)
Alright thanks for the info. Not sure if the temps can be reduced by replacing the thermal paste.
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Linus did a video on that few weeks back and the temp certainly drop by a few degrees. You can try using manual fan profile. I usually set to 50 percent icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Feb 27 2015, 10:02 PM)
Linus did a video on that few weeks back and the temp certainly drop by a few degrees. You can try using manual fan profile. I usually set to 50 percent  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Saw that video too. In fact I did it on my Asus HD7850 few years ago and it really worked. Guess I should get a new thermal paste soon tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 27 2015, 10:00 PM)
Wow, what a load of assumption you're throwing there. Sorry, but WHO are you again to throw those assumptions on what people do for a living or where they are at their stage of their lifes? That's quite insulting.

And who said people are ignorant about misleading marketing from other sectors? Seems to me like you're being ignorant about thinking people are ignorant about other issues. But lete's not go off-topic, this is about the 970 not about other things.

Oh and yes, I SLI'd a 970 to play at 1440p and even then, I'm getting stutters. So I have the right to complain. For those who play on 1080p or lower, they still have the right to complain, whether or not their 970 are stuttering. Who's to say that games in the near future wouldn't breach 3.5GB of VRAM at 1080p? You? blink.gif
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There are already games pushing more than 3.5GB RAM on FullHD resolution, Shadow of Mordor and FarCry 4 are a couple of example. From my own test Wolfenstein: The New Order also maxes out the RAM at highest setting and makes it stutter too at FullHD resolution.

Adding salt to the wound, the Jen-Hsun so called 'apologetic' letter really pissed me off. The word 'new memory architecture' and 'This is a good design' really makes me mad. They only mentioned about the RAM issue, but what about the L2 cache and ROPs? I'm not gonna lie, GTX 970 is a good fast card, but I buy it because of it's spec, I want full 2MB L2 cache, full 64 ROPs and 4GB 256-bit RAM as promised. Because of this blatant lie I sold it and would rather use my old trusty GTX 560 SLi as I waited for new R9 300 series to comes up hopefully in few weeks. nvidia current lineup and price doesn't really attract me at all, GTX 960 is more expensive than R9 280 series card which is faster and have more RAM, GTX 970 is more expensive than even R9 290X which have full 4GB of RAM and run much better with eye candy enabled.

I hate when fanboys argue saying the performance didn't change after this findings, of course they don't but they should be MUCH BETTER in the first place!
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Feb 27 2015, 06:08 PM)
Hey guys, just got a new Zotac GTX 960 non-AMP edition from Storekini. The temps maxed out at 81 degrees while my previous Asus AMD Radeon HD7850 maxed out at 63 degrees. Is it normal? What should I check?
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my asus 960 strix max 65degrees only, oced to 1.4ghz max 66deg, mayb zotac cooling is like that my previous 970 zotac full load at 80degrees thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 27 2015, 09:40 PM)
That is also a lie from nVidia and their fanboy talking about low temp. When you game, both nvidia and amd have almost the same heat.
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it all depends on cooling if you compare with amd r9 with reference coolers u are totally wrong. Maxwell gpus temps are way better than amd the tdp explains it all. Dont be one sided both brands are great. Now im just waiting for amd upcoming gpu need to see review and issues as their newer gpu tdp are still high expect water cooled cards.
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ok ok by gones and reedit ure post. ty.

ok fair enough i was too much. agreed but seriously 1 week reply from a ceo of a corporate company is damn good.

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