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post Feb 6 2015, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 6 2015, 03:37 PM)
thanks for the advise done  nod.gif

here is zotac latest reply , they never acknowledge tomshardware  rclxub.gif these websites review and help sell their products what stupidity is this  doh.gif

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Umm,there still is in the one above. tongue.gif

>.> I wonder how would they haven't heard of Tom's Hardware. doh.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 6 2015, 03:37 PM)
thanks for the advise done  nod.gif

here is zotac latest reply , they never acknowledge tomshardware  rclxub.gif these websites review and help sell their products what stupidity is this  doh.gif

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its not that they do no know the website . Its about who is going to bare the cost ?
The easy way out is not to acknowledge third party reviewer unless the direction/order is from nvidia themselves
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Feb 5 2015, 11:24 PM)
ah tx.

well.... my 680 gtx kepler 2012 when playing my latest game which was Dragon Age Inquisition using ultra settings, it was unplayable ... fps of 20-30....

on a 60hz 1920x1200 24'' ah-ips lcd monitor, ivy bridge i7 quad core cpu pc gaming rig with 16gb of ddr3 corsair ram sad.gif  (cpu and gpu are both water cooled by the way using a radiator with at least 8 fans in my rig)

this is a bummer for me because 20-30 fps at ultra on the latest game kinda sux for a gamer. I'm not even using a ridiculous big size screen or higher than a standard resolution which today is considered norm. That is why i need to update within the next 1-2 years from now urgently  sweat.gif
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lel now i can start sacrificing playing medium because now working cannot afford 2 buy new GPU every 2 years already laugh.gif doh.gif from 2 years change 4 years dang...other commitments 2 bare is the main reason...so my target is volta in 2 years time sweat.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Feb 6 2015, 09:16 PM)
its not that they do no know the website . Its about who is going to bare the cost ?
The easy way out is not to acknowledge third party reviewer unless the direction/order is from nvidia themselves
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post Feb 7 2015, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 6 2015, 03:37 PM)
thanks for the advise done  nod.gif

here is zotac latest reply , they never acknowledge tomshardware  rclxub.gif these websites review and help sell their products what stupidity is this  doh.gif

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Tomshardware doesn't relate to Zotac.

As Zotac advised you, refer to your seller.
The message is very clear.

If you want a fast solution, I'd suggest you sell your card at garage sales.
Get a GTX980 then.
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post Feb 7 2015, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 7 2015, 03:54 AM)
Tomshardware doesn't relate to Zotac.

As Zotac advised you, refer to your seller.
The message is very clear.

If you want a fast solution, I'd suggest you sell your card at garage sales.
Get a GTX980 then.
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That's not the point.

People in the US/EU are getting FULL refund on their 970s. Sites like Amazon and Newegg are also throwing in an extra $50 discount card for future purchases. Selling at garage sales here means selling as second hand, that also mean you're getting less back.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 7 2015, 02:21 PM)
That's not the point.

People in the US/EU are getting FULL refund on their 970s. Sites like Amazon and Newegg are also throwing in an extra $50 discount card for future purchases. Selling at garage sales here means selling as second hand, that also mean you're getting less back.
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Exactly what Zotac told you - "the policy of seller".

Those who got from Amazon or Newegg is likely under the policy of 30-day return policy.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/80...hrough-nvidia-/

Heard EU vendors accept return though.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 7 2015, 02:33 PM)
Exactly what Zotac told you - "the policy of seller".

Those who got from Amazon or Newegg is likely under the policy of 30-day return policy.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/80...hrough-nvidia-/

Heard EU vendors accept return though.
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No, those I know who got refunds were launch day 970s. Most of them are from Gigabyte, EVGA and MSI.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 7 2015, 02:21 PM)
That's not the point.

People in the US/EU are getting FULL refund on their 970s. Sites like Amazon and Newegg are also throwing in an extra $50 discount card for future purchases. Selling at garage sales here means selling as second hand, that also mean you're getting less back.
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nGreedia provides FULL refund on 970 for US/EU customer to avoid legal battles which hurt its profit even greater...
US legal firm is seeking opportunity in this scandal...
http://bursor.com/investigations/nvidia/

Its wise for nGreedia to refund.

But in our country, nGreedia don't give a shit about it as there is nobody to help those victims.

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Feb 7 2015, 02:39 PM)
nGreedia provides FULL refund on 970 for US/EU customer to avoid legal battles which hurt its profit even greater...
US legal firm is seeking opportunity in this scandal...
http://bursor.com/investigations/nvidia/

Its wise for nGreedia to refund.

But in our country, nGreedia don't give a shit about it as there is nobody to help those victims.
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god bless malaysia we have great consumer rights thumbup.gif

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This may be awkward, bought a GTX 970 today smile.gif Very happy with it's performance except for Dying Light.
Upgrading from GT 620 to GTX 970 is heaven and earth comparison.
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anybody wanna buy my gtx970 i wanna letgo fast its zotac brand pm me for pricing thanks fed up with this ngreedia already
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1st time start watchdogs got coil whine with GTX 970 but after i edited the below setting the coil whine gone.

VSync 2 frames
GPU Max Buffered Frames 5
Texture Ultra
Anti-Aliasing TXAA x4

everything ultra graphics quality but NVIDIA control panel grayed out ambient occlusion & there's the option for ambient occlusion in the game setting which i set to HBAO+ High. damn weird hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Feb 7 2015, 04:51 PM)
god bless malaysia we have great consumer rights  thumbup.gif
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Hahahaha doh.gif
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QUOTE(McDBigMaC @ Feb 7 2015, 06:02 PM)
This may be awkward, bought a GTX 970 today smile.gif Very happy with it's performance except for Dying Light.
Upgrading from GT 620 to GTX 970 is heaven and earth comparison.
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Of course, it is like upgrading from a Kancil to a Ferrari laugh.gif

QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Feb 7 2015, 07:53 PM)
1st time start watchdogs got coil whine with GTX 970 but after i edited the below setting the coil whine gone.

VSync 2 frames
GPU Max Buffered Frames 5
Texture Ultra
Anti-Aliasing TXAA x4

everything ultra graphics quality but NVIDIA control panel grayed out ambient occlusion & there's the option for ambient occlusion in the game setting which i set to HBAO+ High. damn weird hmm.gif
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Is the coil whine really loud?
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 7 2015, 09:01 PM)
Of course, it is like upgrading from a Kancil to a Ferrari  laugh.gif
Is the coil whine really loud?
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damn loud but i forget which exact setting i edited but what i can confirm related to one of the setting below:

VSync 2 frames
GPU Max Buffered Frames 5
Texture Ultra
Anti-Aliasing TXAA x4

bro, how come when i open the game is not full screen? i already set full-screen just 1st time wanna play. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Feb 7 2015, 09:04 PM)
damn loud but i forget which exact setting i edited but what i can confirm related to one of the setting below:

VSync 2 frames
GPU Max Buffered Frames 5
Texture Ultra
Anti-Aliasing TXAA x4

bro, how come when i open the game is not full screen? i already set full-screen just 1st time wanna play.  whistling.gif
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Did you alt+enter haha
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Feb 7 2015, 09:07 PM)
Did you alt+enter haha
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fixed. unable to play at 60fps stable.

This post has been edited by ngkhanmein: Feb 8 2015, 01:35 AM
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post Feb 8 2015, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Feb 6 2015, 10:35 PM)
lel now i can start sacrificing playing medium because now working cannot afford 2 buy new GPU every 2 years already laugh.gif doh.gif from 2 years change 4 years dang...other commitments 2 bare is the main reason...so my target is volta in 2 years time sweat.gif  rclxub.gif
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exactly. besides if we look at the performance charts, every next gen e.g. that usual 2 year product update, the usual performance change is usually roughly 15%

only some of their products had a huge leap in performance over the immediate previous generation especially when it's new architecture.


but it's not only fps % increments to look at, there are other feature sets that should be taken note of

- directx 12 (though not sure how soon the newer games will start having this)
- gsync support (still too expensive to own a monitor with gsync module. The only other alternative is free sync on ati cards, but i don't think their tech is as good as gsync)
- HBM (ati's product will be getting this sooner than nvidia by roughly a year ahead. Because nvidias volta HMC didn't pan out so they switched to HBM as well, so thats why they are slower than ati this time around) anyway this tech is vastly increased memory bandwidth which has been a long time bottleneck on gpus. Though it's presumed volta will be 2nd gen of hbm with even higher bandwidth, possibly double if the rumors to be believed.
- unified memory (sounds good could be a game changer)
- graphics technologies to improve visuals (physx, gameworks on nvidia)


another interesting development, now their saying pascal and future gpus could possibly add vram from a sli configuration. before vram wasn't a single pool. but come pascal onwards it will, but with some rules to it. games need to be coded to support it or something.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Feb 8 2015, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Feb 8 2015, 03:03 AM)
exactly. besides if we look at the performance charts, every next gen e.g. that usual 2 year product update, the usual performance change is usually roughly 15%

only some of their products had a huge leap in performance over the immediate previous generation especially when it's new architecture.
but it's not only fps % increments to look at, there are other feature sets that should be taken note of

- directx 12 (though not sure how soon the newer games will start having this)
- gsync support (still too expensive to own a monitor with gsync module. The only other alternative is free sync on ati cards, but i don't think their tech is as good as gsync)
- HBM (ati's product will be getting this sooner than nvidia by roughly a year ahead. Because nvidias volta HMC didn't pan out so they switched to HBM as well, so thats why they are slower than ati this time around) anyway this tech is vastly increased memory bandwidth which has been a long time bottleneck on gpus. Though it's presumed volta will be 2nd gen of hbm with even higher bandwidth, possibly double if the rumors to be believed.
- unified memory (sounds good could be a game changer)
- graphics technologies to improve visuals (physx, gameworks on nvidia)
another interesting development, now their saying pascal and future gpus could possibly add vram from a sli configuration. before vram wasn't a single pool. but come pascal onwards it will, but with some rules to it. games need to be coded to support it or something.
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tbh both are similar, theyre some sort of adaptive v-sync. just that FreeSync leaves the GPU to do the processing compared to Nvidia's GSync module which is an external unit

prolly explains why Nvidia charges extra for the module

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