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 ringgit Malaysia drop , how to I change my RM to USD

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AVFAN
post Jun 11 2015, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 11 2015, 09:53 PM)
Somehw I just cant belief tht our local goods will become cheaper after the BNM cuts the OPR by 25bps.
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ah.. sorry about that.

that message was for dan with power foreign money. laugh.gif

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post Jun 12 2015, 12:08 AM

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veli lucky those with foreign income esp USD & SGD rclxms.gif
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post Jun 12 2015, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 12 2015, 12:08 AM)
veli lucky those with foreign income esp USD & SGD  rclxms.gif
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Indirectly income increase month by month wink.gif
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post Jun 12 2015, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Jun 12 2015, 08:28 AM)
Indirectly income increase month by month wink.gif
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yes... rclxms.gif
just don't consider it as permanent income to be budgeted into the expenses....
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post Jun 12 2015, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Jun 12 2015, 09:28 AM)
Indirectly income increase month by month wink.gif
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Only applicable for those with assets of, say USD and/or SGD stocks with regular dividends and bond funds with monthly dividends. But then, not really 'fully-lucky', becos many items in Msia have also increased in prices, and GST has been imposed recently, hnce, balancing up the incremental incme.
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post Jun 12 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 12 2015, 09:40 AM)
yes... rclxms.gif
just don't consider it as permanent income to be budgeted into the expenses....
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Why not plese ?
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post Jun 12 2015, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2015, 08:44 AM)
Why not plese ?
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b'cos the upward movement can be down movement or no movement at all.
thus the gain may not continue...
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post Jun 12 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2015, 08:42 AM)
Only applicable for those with assets of, say USD and/or SGD stocks with regular dividends and bond funds with monthly dividends. But then, not really 'fully-lucky', becos many items in Msia have also increased in prices, and GST has been imposed recently, hnce, balancing up the incremental incme.
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well tat also valid point hmm.gif
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post Jun 12 2015, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 12 2015, 12:11 PM)
b'cos the upward movement can be down movement or no movement at all.
thus the gain may not continue...
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Agreed for most of the currencies in the world (incl the mighty USD), HOWVER, in my many years of chasng passve income, I have come to realise that the SGD has NEVER failed me. In the long run, it has always been up, up and up against the RM. The MAS has always advocated a gradual appewciation of the SGD.

Nexona, thank you....

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post Jun 12 2015, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2015, 06:40 PM)
Agreed for most of the currencies in the world (incl the mighty USD), HOWVER, in my many years of chasng passve income, I have come to realise that the SGD has NEVER failed me. In the long run, it has always been up, up and up against the RM. The MAS has always advocated a gradual appewciation of the SGD.
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laugh.gif

true, sg's mas focus on sgd gradual appr against its major trading partners.

today, rm lost 0.44% with usd, sgd lost 0.3%. so, u gain, once again! tongue.gif
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post Jun 12 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2015, 06:40 PM)
Agreed for most of the currencies in the world (incl the mighty USD), HOWVER, in my many years of chasng passve income, I have come to realise that the SGD has NEVER failed me. In the long run, it has always been up, up and up against the RM. The MAS has always advocated a gradual appewciation of the SGD.

Nexona, thank you....
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hmm.gif anyone got the data for this?
If
"A", placed in RM 1000 in FD with Malaysian bank in year 1985 till 2015 (or 10 years at least)
"B", placed in RM 1000 but converted to SGD and placed in FD with S'pore bank in year 1985 till 2015 (or 10 years at least)
which one got more now?
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post Jun 13 2015, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 12 2015, 08:54 PM)
hmm.gif anyone got the data for this?
If
"A", placed in RM 1000 in FD with Malaysian bank in year 1985 till 2015 (or 10 years at least)
"B", placed in RM 1000 but converted to SGD and placed in FD with S'pore bank in year 1985 till 2015 (or 10 years at least)
which one got more now?
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Singapore Malaysia (3 month FD rates)

1997 3.41% 7.35%
1998 5.17% 8.70%
1999 1.70% 6.45%
2000 1.68% 3.18%
2001 1.70% 3.25%
2002 1.00% 3.27%
2003 0.78% 3.13%
2004 0.40% 2.87%
2005 0.41% 2.80%
2006 0.56% 3.21%
2007 0.57% 3.61%
2008 0.48% 3.56%
2009 0.38% 3.30%
2010 0.22% 2.23%
2011 0.18% 2.94%
2012 0.13% 3.07%
2013 0.14% 3.11%
2014 0.15% 3.11%
2015 0.15% 3.78%

1997 forex RM:SGD 1.00:1.79

1. Put S$1000 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = S$1208.84

2. Put RM1790 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = RM3652.44

3. S$1208.84 x 2.78 (2015) = RM3360.57


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post Jun 13 2015, 01:18 AM

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Based on the above data, is xuzen correct on Fisher Equilibrium / interest rate parity ?

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post Jun 13 2015, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 13 2015, 01:12 AM)
1. Put S$1000 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = S$1208.84

2. Put RM1790 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = RM3652.44

3. S$1208.84 x 2.78 (2015) = RM3360.57
RM wins. Malaysia Boleh. Bercukur ada Barisan Nasional
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differential of 8.7%...

an indication more rm depr towards 3.0 ex rate coming?

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post Jun 13 2015, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 13 2015, 02:03 AM)
differential of 8.7%...

an indication more rm depr towards 3.0 ex rate coming?
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Shld b 3.80 rite?
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post Jun 13 2015, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 13 2015, 01:12 AM)
Singapore Malaysia (3 month FD rates)
 
1997     3.41% 7.35%
1998     5.17% 8.70%
1999     1.70% 6.45%
2000     1.68% 3.18%
2001     1.70% 3.25%
2002     1.00% 3.27%
2003     0.78% 3.13%
2004     0.40% 2.87%
2005     0.41% 2.80%
2006     0.56% 3.21%
2007     0.57% 3.61%
2008     0.48% 3.56%
2009     0.38% 3.30%
2010     0.22% 2.23%
2011     0.18% 2.94%
2012     0.13% 3.07%
2013     0.14% 3.11%
2014     0.15% 3.11%
2015     0.15% 3.78%

1997 forex RM:SGD 1.00:1.79

1. Put S$1000 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = S$1208.84

2. Put RM1790 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = RM3652.44

3. S$1208.84 x 2.78 (2015) = RM3360.57
RM wins. Malaysia Boleh. Bercukur ada Barisan Nasional
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notworthy.gif thanks for the compiled data....appreciated it very much...it proved/showed some things.
btw, "Bercukur"...??? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 13 2015, 06:48 AM)
Shld b 3.80 rite?
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it's sgd/rm.

3.00 is not impossible in the next 24 months given all that we know at this time.

if that happens, usd/rm will be 4.0.
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post Jun 13 2015, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 13 2015, 02:03 AM)
differential of 8.7%...

an indication more rm depr towards 3.0 ex rate coming?
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If a company has bad financial management, it's P&L will of course deteriorate further. Same as currency. It's a matter of time. But don't know when tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2015, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 13 2015, 07:38 AM)
notworthy.gif thanks for the compiled data....appreciated it very much...it proved/showed some things.
btw, "Bercukur"...???  rclxub.gif
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It's the /k lingo for bersyukur, being sarcastic tongue.gif

Seriously, personally I don't think it is a conprehensive comparison. It may be true for fixed income investment based on interest rate, like a retiree who live on FD.

But investor may be investing in other vehicle like in stock market too. So, if we compare SGD+SGX vs RM+KLCI, the the winner is different, and in this case SGD will be a clear winner

But for all we know, there will be some politician who "memaslankan" the above calculation and sing praise for RM tomorrow tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 13 2015, 01:12 AM)
Singapore Malaysia (3 month FD rates)
 
1997    3.41% 7.35%
1998    5.17% 8.70%
1999    1.70% 6.45%
2000    1.68% 3.18%
2001    1.70% 3.25%
2002    1.00% 3.27%
2003    0.78% 3.13%
2004    0.40% 2.87%
2005    0.41% 2.80%
2006    0.56% 3.21%
2007    0.57% 3.61%
2008    0.48% 3.56%
2009    0.38% 3.30%
2010    0.22% 2.23%
2011    0.18% 2.94%
2012    0.13% 3.07%
2013    0.14% 3.11%
2014    0.15% 3.11%
2015    0.15% 3.78%

1997 forex RM:SGD 1.00:1.79

1. Put S$1000 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = S$1208.84

2. Put RM1790 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = RM3652.44

3. S$1208.84 x 2.78 (2015) = RM3360.57
RM wins. Malaysia Boleh. Bercukur ada Barisan Nasional
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Based on my understanding, if nothing changes, then the Fisher Equilibrium states that the forex should move closer to SGD 1.00:RM 3.00 by end of this year.

Hence you may use this as a guide to know how the forex will move and plan ahead. For example, let's say your kid is going to study in SG "A" Level in June 2016 and if you know the average inflation rate of college education, the interest rate of both country, you can plan ahead to check whether it is better to keep RM or SG now.

Information + Knowledge = Better Planning.

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