Wow... Only AMD fans allowed in here? Dafuq?
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Jun 20 2015, 11:24 PM
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196 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
Wow... Only AMD fans allowed in here? Dafuq?
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Jun 20 2015, 11:58 PM
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Elite
6,799 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
Never met an idiot who cling that much to his card.
Another smeagol. Btw its about that johor idiot. That techreview report was insightful. Although they should put that tonga tess accelaration is a trait in the new gcn. So its not a apple to apple comparison with 290x numbers. Are those fury throughput data an estimation or facts?? The second data table. |
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Jun 20 2015, 11:59 PM
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Elite
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Jun 21 2015, 12:16 AM
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7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor. |
guess what elite would like to said. the truth make that fella hurts.
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Jun 21 2015, 11:31 AM
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1,167 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: ..Tsukuba.. |
QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 20 2015, 07:40 PM) no hard feelings bro |
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Jun 21 2015, 12:02 PM
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does R9 380 would be just rebranded from R9 280?
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Jun 21 2015, 12:26 PM
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615 posts Joined: Jan 2008 |
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Jun 21 2015, 01:24 PM
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81 posts Joined: Jun 2013 |
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Jun 21 2015, 01:26 PM
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5,211 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Konohana |
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 20 2015, 11:58 PM) Never met an idiot who cling that much to his card. It's just estimation. I do more digging on it and find out it's not 100% true. Tonga GCN 1.2 does make improvement in certain areas over Hawaii GCN 1.1Another smeagol. Btw its about that johor idiot. That techreview report was insightful. Although they should put that tonga tess accelaration is a trait in the new gcn. So its not a apple to apple comparison with 290x numbers. Are those fury throughput data an estimation or facts?? The second data table. |
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Jun 21 2015, 01:37 PM
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615 posts Joined: Jan 2008 |
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Jun 21 2015, 03:46 PM
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Elite
6,799 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 21 2015, 01:26 PM) It's just estimation. I do more digging on it and find out it's not 100% true. Tonga GCN 1.2 does make improvement in certain areas over Hawaii GCN 1.1 Thought so then that throughput numbers n tesselation power is false. Cause the base assumption is 290x .This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 21 2015, 07:29 PM |
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Jun 21 2015, 10:19 PM
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2,337 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: KING CANNEL JB |
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Jun 22 2015, 10:18 AM
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742 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Shaw or West End or Foggy Bottom or somewhere else |
just thought of sharing this pic
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Jun 22 2015, 10:20 AM
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For some reason, I really worry about AMD Fury product competitiveness.
First, Fury doesnt have HDMI 2.0 support. (No support for Ultra HD resolution?) Second, there is news that HBM cannot be overclocked, it is locked by AMD, uncertain if it is locked by driver or vbios/vuefi (it is possible that AMD already OC it to the max? Or HBM specific interposer issue?) Third, a reviewer said fury x gpu core voltage is locked as well? Fourth, there was rumour about 30K units available for year 2015, but AMD denied this rumour. But 10 fury x review units for entire europe......compounded by recent comment by AMD representative about scaling back marketing effort. Quoted directly ; "I’m sorry to say that AMD is generally reducing the press events we host, invitee numbers for any events, sampling numbers, etc. Our decisions are based on a number of factors that I’m unable to go into. However I can only assure you that we will involve you in events and sampling when we feel it is appropriate and we are able. With regards to specific sampling of Fiji, I’m afraid our current allocation means we will not be able to sample you prior to launch. I realize this may not be the response you were hoping for but I can only reiterate that we will keep sharing information and more when we can." I am starting to see the 30K units rumour might be true. Fifth, when the first news about rebrand broke out, AMD flat outright denied it and say these gpus are for OEM only. -.- Turns out during AMD 16th June 2015 event, it is for official 300 R6 - R9 series as well. Now I am reading about AMD specifically mentions in its reviewer guide not to classify the rebrand as a 'rebrand', instead highlight the so called better binning process, better vram timing and voltage optimization. An apple still an apple no matter how it is genetically modified, no? Sixth, the latest stuff on driver optimization about tesselation performance specific to 300 vbios. |
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Jun 22 2015, 11:03 AM
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196 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 22 2015, 10:20 AM) For some reason, I really worry about AMD Fury product competitiveness. I read about that issue with "selected" reviewers too with KitGuru, etc. I guess it's normal practise? By this I mean it was pratised by NVidia as well? I'm not putting anything on this though. All these so-called issues may not even be true, as it's still just "rumours". We'll just wait for the official numbers to come in now. It should be anytime now. Can't wait to read the "real" reviews out by this week. First, Fury doesnt have HDMI 2.0 support. (No support for Ultra HD resolution?) Second, there is news that HBM cannot be overclocked, it is locked by AMD, uncertain if it is locked by driver or vbios/vuefi (it is possible that AMD already OC it to the max? Or HBM specific interposer issue?) Third, a reviewer said fury x gpu core voltage is locked as well? Fourth, there was rumour about 30K units available for year 2015, but AMD denied this rumour. But 10 fury x review units for entire europe......compounded by recent comment by AMD representative about scaling back marketing effort. Quoted directly ; "I’m sorry to say that AMD is generally reducing the press events we host, invitee numbers for any events, sampling numbers, etc. Our decisions are based on a number of factors that I’m unable to go into. However I can only assure you that we will involve you in events and sampling when we feel it is appropriate and we are able. With regards to specific sampling of Fiji, I’m afraid our current allocation means we will not be able to sample you prior to launch. I realize this may not be the response you were hoping for but I can only reiterate that we will keep sharing information and more when we can." I am starting to see the 30K units rumour might be true. Fifth, when the first news about rebrand broke out, AMD flat outright denied it and say these gpus are for OEM only. -.- Turns out during AMD 16th June 2015 event, it is for official 300 R6 - R9 series as well. Now I am reading about AMD specifically mentions in its reviewer guide not to classify the rebrand as a 'rebrand', instead highlight the so called better binning process, better vram timing and voltage optimization. An apple still an apple no matter how it is genetically modified, no? Sixth, the latest stuff on driver optimization about tesselation performance specific to 300 vbios. |
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Jun 22 2015, 11:19 AM
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3,669 posts Joined: Apr 2006 |
QUOTE(antaras @ Jun 22 2015, 11:03 AM) I read about that issue with "selected" reviewers too with KitGuru, etc. I guess it's normal practise? By this I mean it was pratised by NVidia as well? I'm not putting anything on this though. All these so-called issues may not even be true, as it's still just "rumours". We'll just wait for the official numbers to come in now. It should be anytime now. Can't wait to read the "real" reviews out by this week. 'Selected' reviewers? Nah.....I dont really care much about kitguru fiasco.I concerned about AMD scaling down its marketing effort. Reducing the press events, Reducing invitee numbers, Reducing samples sent out, Sound to me, AMD has serious financial issue right now. After all, AMD did fired most of its marketing personnels. |
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Jun 22 2015, 11:30 AM
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196 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 22 2015, 11:19 AM) 'Selected' reviewers? Nah.....I dont really care much about kitguru fiasco. Yes, not looking good in that sense. The last thing AMD needs now is their products will only appeal to their "fans" only. I concerned about AMD scaling down its marketing effort. Reducing the press events, Reducing invitee numbers, Reducing samples sent out, Sound to me, AMD has serious financial issue right now. After all, AMD did fired most of its marketing personnels. |
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Jun 22 2015, 11:33 AM
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Elite
6,799 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
Afaik there was no optimization on r9 390s other than
Third party cooler with significantly higher vddc 1.2v , overclocked by 50-100mhz, vrams 8gb higher clocked by 20%. Now there are reports showing there was no increase in tesselation performance. It was driver tweaking. So if we do a wired setting on heaven we can see "optimization" or lack of tesselation. I call that cheating or just reducing fidelity that game engine intended. But on other perspective users would enjoy better framerates at acceptable graphic fidelity. Everybody call this r&d . Lol Dirt Rally. I heard it wasnt maxed out setting. Btw its was about 8.4xx k pixels but marketing is spinning it as 12k. I am curious as to the aa performance. Early debates said the card will suffer a huge loss in performance. This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 22 2015, 11:37 AM |
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Jun 22 2015, 11:51 AM
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196 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
Didn't read much on that 12k thingy yet but I watched TTL's review of his 390X and he sounds so damn convinced. hahaha... The price is very good for the performance of 390X too... now AMD needs to unleash thy FURY!!!
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Jun 22 2015, 12:23 PM
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196 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
Check out @hardwarecanucks's Tweet: https://twitter.com/hardwarecanucks/status/...9043941376?s=09
2 days more to go. |
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