ok, that's mean all today technology will phase out soon... with 16nm technology can reduce a lot of power consumption and increase of graphic performance in the same clock speed.

Ill try later, thanks for sharing.

This post has been edited by TheHitman47: Apr 18 2015, 12:56 PM

Freesync monitor have refresh rate window from 40hz. Within the Variable refresh rate (VRR) window, the freesync works flawlessly. But thing get really different between freesync and g-sync when the frame rate drop below the vrr window. When fps drop below 40, you'll get the classic stuttered like any other non vrr monitor. In g-sync, they implement the frame interpolation (frame duplicating/doubling/tripling), if the FPS drop below VRR window. For example, if the fps is at 30, g-sync monitor will refresh the panel at 60hz, while it g-sync module buffer the fps by doubling it to match the refresh rate. If the fps at 20, the panel will refresh at 60hz, the g-sync buffer will triple the fps. The g-sync module will keep the panel to refresh at the VRR window, at any fps without odd frames that mismatch the refresh rate.

It is still unknown why freesync unable to do frame doubling, the fact that VESA adaptive standard DP1.2a+ white paper have frame doubling technology too if the fps drop below vrr window. My speculation is, the lack of asics/frame buffer in panel scaler to achieve what g-sync can achieve. I do think this can be done in the GPU buffer itself. Maybe lack of mature drivers?

However, if fps shoot above VRR window, freesync have the option to have v-sync on or v-sync off. While nvidia g-sync will force v-sync on (cap fps) at maximum panel refresh rate.

List of freesync panel and its VRR window.



This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Apr 18 2015, 04:37 PM

.......I got one R7 260x which support adaptive sync......but all currrent freesync display is 1440p or ultrawide 1080p. Lack of normal 1080p.

With 260X low performance......the requirement for mininum refresh rate must be 23fps, which no manufacturer provides right at all.

On the other hand......I got gtx 970 which Gsync display way too expensive.

Sigh, forced to defer screen purchase decision until the battle between freesync and gsync is decided.

so let say im using Samsung UE590 4K it's minimum refresh rate is - ? so it's should be okay right.. as Freesync need 9-240hz to be very effective, eh im still confuse...

This post has been edited by Unseen83: Apr 18 2015, 05:20 PM

The samsung UE590 final spec is not revealed yet. But i bet it is minimum 40hz maximum 60hz.

The 9-240hz is the universal refresh rate space. Not the panel refresh rate. Freesync works within panel refresh rate. The gpu negotiate with panel the VRR window before hand, and AMD claim this is more superior, and have 0 latency than nvidia g-sync.

There is no panel that can run at 9-240hz at this moment.

ooh my look at the price

so which AMD Gpu ur using ? well let say my FreeSync LCD minimum 40Hz.. max 60Hz.. but im using R9 290x on crossfire setting... if my Gpu manage to get Fps average 50Fps... my understanding i should get to used Freesync.. ? ? e.g. on GTA V in 4K resolution i do get 50-60Fps... and if i am using Freesync Panel i should be able to enjoy the game in this so call Freesync tech .. right ?

hm... 600usd... well not yet out... at moment im using it's earlier brother Samsung UD590 28inch 4K LCD.. For TN panel it look Good i pay 510usd..(RM1,840)

Truely a master race gamer, panel so mahal, i only have 1 gpu so I guess free sync is not a worthy upgrade for me

naah not into Master Race gamer.. sorry everyone is gamer even if you tab your Smart phone... Your GAmeR im just stupid over spending, hope/Nostalgia to play on PC that i could never/ able to afford when i was younger... xx

Freesync: do you suffer from Graphic Tearing ?? hm i do not or rarely suffer from tearing.. eh other word not really believer of this tech... is like excuses for gpu maker to sell off their brand on LCD.. lolx

This post has been edited by Unseen83: Apr 19 2015, 04:23 PM

Should be no problem if framerate within the vrr window. But i would like to see minimum 30hz for 4k panel. Not really concern on max refresh rate because current gen card hardly can output more than 60. Minimum refresh rate is important because you'll encounter frame drops more often on 4k resolution.

if R9 390 out, good price or rm600-900 lower than competitor with new HBM Memory tech sure i believe crossfire r9 390 is possible to get Average 50-60fps(or higher) in 4K .

by way what AMD gpu your using... ? im using sapphire AMD r9 290X 4Gb Vaporx/Trix(crossfire mode) why i am confident my AMD gpu get 40-50+FPS average... unless New release Game and under GameWork...

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-...s-gpus-in-june/

http://wccftech.com/amd-talk-graphics-products-quarter/

This post has been edited by Unseen83: Apr 19 2015, 05:04 PM

Nah it wont be that much price difference. New cards plus new memory wont be cheap, plus GST.

Freesync is still at its infant state. Wait a few months for it to be more mature. I agree that higher refresh rate isnt that important because one of the reason of it is to achieve fluidity at lower framerate at high resolution such as 4k and above, other than to eliminate screen tearing of course.

Agreed new gpu will cost a bomb with gst, plus dx12 will improve older hardware, then only fx cpu can use up 6 cores, might just wait n see before changing to newer gpu technology, but I still game at 1080p no moolah for 4k panel

I pretty much going to stick with 1080 for a long time. I didnt find the extra pixel appealing. Good news is because high end card now focused on 4K we on fullHD resolution can opt for mid range cards that are now cater for that resolution, as an added bonus buying high end cards for that resolution means we could crank up all the eye candy ingame, plus the VSR or DSR if needed

hm.. Seller in Malaysia(NOT all of them) alot of them Jack up the price e.g. look at GTX Titan X RM4,xxx+ this is before GST was implemented... is on Lynet NEWSUpdate... if they give out the usual excuses "US Currency Exchange Fluctuation" (even so distro got it goods from china and all product produce in China "feel so suspicious/greedy") it shouldn't be more RM3.9K AND if Nvidia recommend 999USD does not mean Seller not getting it % cut with selling of base recommended price...
http://www.lowyat.net/2015/03/nvidia-gefor...ore-than-rm-4k/

And for your info AMD always Present a better competitive price over it's competitor... e.g. GTX 980 and R9 290 performance only 6-9FPS or some game no difference... but in price... is 100usd - 250usd difference...

This post has been edited by Unseen83: Apr 20 2015, 11:45 AM

That is the reason I refuse to buy anything brand new after GST. I noticed this stupid trend where even before GST they jack up the price like you mentioned. Not all the shop do this but its annoying when my favorite shop did it.

The reason why AMD R2 290 series is cheap is because it's old. If you open up GPU-Z you can see the announced date. The card is approaching 2 years old (290X released on Oct 2013!!)! AMD cuts their price after GTX 900 series comes out around Sept 2014.

i got my on april 2014 RM1.5K Sapphire R9 290X Vapor X

but performance aint old. love my tri-x 290 now.
the only thing to do now is to find rubber and fix the god damn shroud noise