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League GTR2 Malaysian Racing League, Round 8 Imola = 21st Jan 2007

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post Dec 6 2006, 06:31 PM

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Last night I tried a new race setup. My fastest is 1.37.440 as of now. But I am not happy with the consistency over a race distance.

So tonite anyone up for practice or race session? Hamachi got a new version, perhaps you guys should consider updating.

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post Dec 6 2006, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(kimi @ Dec 6 2006, 07:30 PM)
What's new in NAP V 1.3 (05/11/2006)
- Soft tyres are reaching optimum temperature a bit more easier. They should be
able to work well even with the lowest ambient and track temperatures.

- All wet and intermediate tyres have new grip curves that gives them better
control and a bit more grip.
- All wet and intermediate tyres gain temperature harder than before.
- All wet and intermediate tyres have more grip when cold.
- All wet and intermediate tyres are more grip sensible with pressure.
What's new in V 1.2 (29/10/2006)
- Safety car that doesn't apper on dedicate server fixed
- Fixed a tyre temperatures bug on Yokohama tyres
- Added the option to lower down the POV to see the motec on 16:9 monitors and
to have a more realistic view
- Engines modified for leagues that wish to use Timed Scaled Damage option.
Please contact www.simleague.net admins for additional information.
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That is really important update. I mean fresh soft tyres shouldn't take long to be at optimum. What say you guys, I think we should update. Afterall there is no change made to physics.

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To assist in the process of setting up the car for a circuit, a driver has to use all his powers of concentration. First of all, he has to tackle each corner in three stages. Then, once has establish reference points and the correct racing line, he should try to stick to them as closely as possible.

Varying the line from one lap to the next alters the cars behavior and creates extra problems. As soon as a driver got to grips with a circuit, he should be able to complete a lap in the same fashion time after time. If each lap follows the same pattern, the driver is better able to analyse events objectively. Indeed, such consistency makes the driver a reference point himself. This requires much attention to details, but mantaining the same procedure for lap after lap you become a good test driver.


Evo, unintentionally we are like that.

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post Dec 8 2006, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Redline @ Dec 8 2006, 03:16 PM)
ok now we have 2-2....seri lagi nie before i change @ 5:30PM (habis kerje).

Lock Cockpit View:
Kimi & Raikkonen

Any View:
Evo & Smokey

yg lain2....cepat vote before 5:30pm...lol
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I vote to not lock any view. Although it's a sim it's also a game. If he is competitive with one view over the another so be it. I'm up for the challenge. I prefer cockpit view since I can control the car better from there.
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post Dec 8 2006, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 8 2006, 05:23 PM)
i'll be back for brno....... pengajarannya kids... bayar bil cepat2  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Evo, If you pay the bills tomorrow in two or three hours the line will be up.
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post Dec 9 2006, 02:34 PM

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Guys, fastest lap will not win you a race. But pole of course la. The most important thing is to be consistent. Laps after laps. At first try to get into high 1m 39, then after few laps low 1m 39 then before pit stops try to get into low 1m 38.

Btw, I have tried few qualy setup for race distance, the fastest is 1m 37.040. Few tweaking might get me into mid 1m 36. The problem right now is to try conserve the car until the end of the race. My maserati kuat makan minyak. 100L last 15 laps. So I will be very heavy masa race nanti. The key is patience. I hope redline and evo can participate. I would love to race that quick lambo of redline. Balas dendam valencia, this time no sucky wieth 550 anymore....heheh.

edietd: my current setup will not last very long, lap25 blown engine already. Even when the rad is at 4. Guess I drop the gear too fast for the engine liking.

smokey this is my new setup for you as well. Ryugan this new setup is optimized for neutral balance, to be very easy on tyres as well as me (the driver). Smokey to get 1m 37 is very easy after maybe 10 laps of fuel burned. Anyway if you want to relax a bit, 1m 38 is confirmed, even on a slightly heavy load.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/922b50/

Smokey, if I can ask you a favor, can you check the setup against any reliability issues for 27 laps.

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post Dec 9 2006, 08:35 PM

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[attachmentid=164630]

See ryugan I manage to do this in race trim. I can go faster but at the expense of tyre wear. I predicted perhaps maybe I could salvage another 0.5 of a second. What you need is to be easy on gas, very gentle I mean as the back end steps out quite easy on full throttle. But the setup overall is very stable. Perhaps you need tweaking a bit on rear camber and add a little anti roll bar, perhaps another 5N/mm.
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post Dec 9 2006, 09:48 PM

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Hey linkinstreet, you should consider joining us again then.

Btw, nice skin there. You really have the modding skills. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 10 2006, 11:04 AM

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These few days I always got intermittent connection, I hope all is well tonight.

linkinstreet, are you joining us tonight?

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Guys, just got back frm PC Fair here in JB.

Guess what.....G25 only RM1219


It will be the days when my momo decided to gave up on me,

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post Dec 10 2006, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Dec 10 2006, 05:12 PM)
1:41.2  sweat.gif

Is it me or with the NAP v1.3, we need to be full throttle on Neutral...then shift to gear 1.
Otherwise, engine will be dead.
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are you sure the automatic clutch dah on?

I have no problem btw.

Anyway you can engage clucth put first gear and release clutch on the start. It will solve jerkiness when accelarting.

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post Dec 10 2006, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Dec 10 2006, 05:46 PM)
I push Insert and seems I cannot get the view like in your attachment.
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Oh I have no idea why. Perhaps the keyboard has an F-key? like my logitech.
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post Dec 10 2006, 11:52 PM

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Thanks guys, btw what happen to alan, this was the second time I thought he finished second.
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post Dec 11 2006, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Dec 11 2006, 01:49 AM)
Kalau Hamachi ni tak settle...me quit this league lah.
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It must be the windows problem, try autopatcher to update to the latest pack. And then untick all of the security option, that may solve whatever bug that is there in the system hopefully.

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If got anyone problem with this date pls reply and give suggestion. Thx


I have no problem with the date, even a week gap is also no problem for me. At least I can release my weekday stress this way. smile.gif

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post Dec 11 2006, 12:39 PM

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Congratulation for making this race very healthy and clean. As for the pace I was just having a good setup here. My soft slicks can last until the end of the race.

In the beginning I was controlling the pace to alan, I didn't want to wear out my tyres. I prefer to wait until the fuel is very very light to have the final push. But alan made a mistake so the race strategy worked out for me quite well.

After the first pitstop I had this fear of blowing my engine for dropping gear too fast, so it was a conservative pace after that. Had alan made no mistake the result might be different.

Evo congrats on the consistency, thanks for caring so much for this league. We really in need of people like you, keep on. And last time I recall Brno, you are quick there. Looking forward to the challenge.

I'm dissapointed not to see ryugan pace as he has the potential to do something.

My philososphy is always = Pushing harder is not the way to drive fast, it's to apply speed and brake gradually and consistenly that makes the car happy and predictable hence faster. I believe we are all like that.
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post Dec 11 2006, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 11 2006, 02:47 PM)
i do my best to contribute  wink.gif  izznatta also contributed,  with our lovely leader board and banners  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

i was quick at brno, but redline and voivod was quick too. i'm looking foward to a great race at brno.

What do you guys think of the qualifying system? i would like to propose the numbers of lap increase from 6 to 12.
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I would say I will follow majority. How about the qualy time then? Hopefully we don't drag it for too long. Because the race itself already 45 mins.

Perhaps 8 or 10 laps would suffice?

And hopefully we can have a login test session for those who fail to login last time.

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Great and clean race to all... Sorry wasnt able to make it for qualifying. Had a food poisoning for entire day.

Finished 7th yesterday. Got caught speeding in the pitlane. Went for stop go penalty. Silly mistake. Should have finished 4/5th.


The entry? You see until now I never had optimized my pit speed entry. I play safe all the time. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 11 2006, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 11 2006, 05:01 PM)
some of the driver complaints that the number laps is too little, since it took 2-3 laps for the tyre to warm up. plus we dont have tyre warmers like F1  tongue.gif
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Oh, yeah I agree. You see swinging the car to the left and right like the f1 drivers did will solve the problem. The temp I check last time already reached optimum. But I still feel not enough perhaps because we need time to get accustomed to track.

I will do the checking on motec to reconfirmed my findings.
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post Dec 11 2006, 06:56 PM

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Evo I've checked the motec and reconfirmed my findings. I'm partially right about heating up the tyres. The front end no problem, but the rear it's not up to temp that easily. I have to do several burnout. So maybe the effectiveness of 6 laps qualy is reduced to 50%. But that itself is a challenge of this format and I honestly quite like it.

Btw, as we know we can do several things like tweak the settings to used tyres effectively, but that requires time <--- hate it. It's what I did for the past two races. To work my tyres effectively. Hence reason I don't change tyres during pit stop.
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post Dec 11 2006, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 11 2006, 07:11 PM)
yup, its either too cold or too hot. or maybe we can have unlimited laps in 15 minutes? i think i will discuss it with redline?

btw, what's your average brno time? i need to calculate the number of laps.
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I haven't tested my time yet. I will do so and will be glad to report it back. Yup 15 minutes unlimited run sounds like fun (more activity on track). rclxms.gif

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post Dec 11 2006, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Dec 11 2006, 08:14 PM)
anybody want to race at Nordchleife? C'mon, we all use the M3 for this race... hehehehehe
Anyways, the game is making my PC hang on vista. need to free some space so that I can reinstall XP... haih...
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Vista is damn buggy, even some unstable Linux distro is more stable IMO. It needs correct drivers so it will take time before everything is okay.

Tried that track, it was fun. But there is a bug where my car got stuck going into the banking. I LOL

QUOTE(pk Tokan @ Dec 11 2006, 09:03 PM)
damn, its hard to drive......
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Before you say that, do you use wheel in the first place? and if you use one, have you set it up appropriately? This is a priority number one.


Evo, my initial time for BRNO was mid 1m57 to low 1m58. But I think I can go faster with improved setups. I don't know yet. Because I didn't do many laps at BRNO in that MC12.

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try the Lambos or Ferrari 575 imho


I would recommend the lambos alone instead of 575. To me, 575 is very nervous on throttle.

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post Dec 12 2006, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Dec 11 2006, 11:15 PM)
It was not my vista fault IMO, because it was fine a month ago. I think some buggy software is making my 3d apps crash. My VIsta DVD is missing, so I cannot reinstall it.

PC, which car did you use on the ring? I rarely stuck there, but need to have a high suspension setting as like Imola, the kerbs can be either you friend or the short cut to the wall....... There is also one section that I really love, a twisting section leading to the 2nd karusel, where you can go full throttle. the best part is I was looking back at the replay and saw my car flew when negotiating that section... damn, this track is great, and I memorised the whole 25KM of it in just 4 laps....  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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You memorise the whole track in 4 laps? rclxub.gif Then your memory must be really good. I just memorise certain section. My feeling is that the track is too tight for my liking. I prefer circuit like Spa or Lemans for example.

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lol i need a wheel........


LOGI momo is very cheap you know. For RM300 you can already get one. I'm telling you the feel is very good. It's worth the money.

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post Dec 12 2006, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Dec 12 2006, 12:26 AM)
I think it must be because of the times I drove there to get the licence in GT4. But honestly, I didn't care to remember the GT4 version because the lack of damage made me not caring. Here, I need to know where my limit is.... Yeah, it's tight and technical, but it's still a fast flowing track. Kind of different from Spa and the Eu Rouge challenge or LeMans with the Mullsane.

On a side note I'm making a standalone Petronas Team BMW M3 race car. Stay tuned
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oh yes GT4, it was still fun nevertheless. People has been too critical of GT series IMO, You know it helps promote sim racing and motorsports. Anyway I don't like fanboys, They potray exactly childish mentality -- you like to play gtr2 and rfactor is stupid, you like rfactor then LFS is arcadey <---- to me you pick what you like and shut up.

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