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League GTR2 Malaysian Racing League, Round 8 Imola = 21st Jan 2007

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PCcrazy
post Jan 16 2007, 01:47 AM

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http://www.simhq.com/_motorsports/motorsports_011b.html

A lap of Imola, tips and workarounds.

Izznata as usual thanks for your work. This time the wallpaper is just nice, the reso and width I mean.

maranello55, you you are right about being patient. The reward comes later, believe me. The most important thing is racing experience for everybody. The race is long, why the need to hurry and destroy the race. At the beginning always push to around 20-30% of your capability. When the confidence built in, then only crank up the pace.

As for kimi, sorry to hear that buddy. We wish to have you as well and you know that. Try version 1.062 of Ham that gives me 5min green to all peers and server.

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i then had to crawl back to the pits and got my car repaired. and then i was caught speeding at the pit lane, rookie error no 2.
after about 2 laps, i was asked to pit in to serve my penalty. And when i was serving my penalty, i stopped and instead of hitting the enter button i hit the ESP button !!!!!! ROOKIE ERROR of THE YEAR !!!!!!! ohmy.gif 


I make the same mistake during training. Perhaps next time we can do more practise over a race weekend offline or online.

Next race, please be at your 20% capability during race start. Or should we have rolling start then? Will it work better that way. I'm sick of seeing cars flying across the track. cool2.gif

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Jan 16 2007, 04:17 AM
KeyserSoze
post Jan 16 2007, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Redline @ Jan 15 2007, 09:02 AM)
Soze time to upgrade the PC.....

Special for u...if u want lah...(about 6 month old with receipt)

AMD64 3500 + Asus A8N-E + 2Gb Apacer DDR400 @ RM800
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Perghh....REALLY YOU OFFER ME@THIS PRICE KA?!!!
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Can hold it until after my wedding tak brader???? Pleaaaaase...... cry.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(KeyserSoze @ Jan 16 2007, 07:52 AM)
Perghh....REALLY YOU OFFER ME@THIS PRICE KA?!!!
shocking.gif

Can hold it until after my wedding tak brader???? Pleaaaaase...... cry.gif
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wedding present tue...huhuhu
evoHahn
post Jan 16 2007, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Jan 16 2007, 01:47 AM)

Next race, please be at your 20% capability during race start. Or should we have rolling start then? Will it work better that way. I'm sick of seeing cars flying across the track. cool2.gif
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yeah me too. i think the only clean racing we had was at Valencia and Hockenheim. imho, we could :

i. Make the race longer (like i suggested before). its different between following a car for 5 laps out of 20 laps race (25%) and for 5 laps out of 30 laps ( 16%). we should give an option if you cant pass a car on the track, maybe you can pass them in the pits.

So far, everybody sticks with 1 stop strategy because twice stopping is still not feasible.

ii. introduce penalty system. i know redline is a bit reluctant in this area, i think it will encourage a fair racing.

and.... simple ethics of racing should be practiced by everyone.... give way when blue flagged.... brake early if your following someone into a corner .... use the rear view mirror when exiting the pits... when you off track, dont immediately get into the track, make sure the coast is clear.....and last but not least, this is not bumper car racing wink.gif

on to imola... practice last nite... only able to clock 1.52 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif i experiencing major major oversteer...
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post Jan 16 2007, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(KeyserSoze @ Jan 16 2007, 06:52 AM)
Perghh....REALLY YOU OFFER ME@THIS PRICE KA?!!!
shocking.gif

Can hold it until after my wedding tak brader???? Pleaaaaase...... cry.gif
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soze....kalu ko tak nak hadiah ko tuh,
anytime aku tunggu peluang...
kih kih kih...
jgn lps nih ko bg alasan nak tunggu ank sulong lak...
bkn senang nak dpt promotion tuh..

sambar...jgn tak sambar!!!!
karom
post Jan 16 2007, 11:57 AM

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i agree with evo, make the pits stragegy become very crucial for the race.
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post Jan 16 2007, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jan 16 2007, 09:53 AM)
yeah me too. i think the only clean racing we had was at Valencia and Hockenheim. imho, we could :

i. Make the race longer (like i suggested before). its different between following a car for 5 laps out of 20 laps race (25%) and for 5 laps out of 30 laps ( 16%). we should give an option if you cant pass a car on the track, maybe you can pass them in the pits.

So far, everybody sticks with 1 stop strategy because twice stopping is still not feasible.

ii. introduce penalty system. i know redline is a bit reluctant in this area, i think it will encourage a fair racing.

and.... simple ethics of racing should be practiced by everyone.... give way when blue flagged.... brake early if your following someone into a corner .... use the rear view mirror when exiting the pits... when you off track, dont immediately get into the track, make sure the coast is clear.....and last but not least, this is not bumper car racing  wink.gif

on to imola... practice last nite... only able to clock 1.52  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  i experiencing major major oversteer...
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Also, when a car in front taking the outside line, the car behind pleasedon't barge in the inside line.
Sure accident (like in Brno) where the outside line car cannot see the inside line car.
CRASH!!!!!
Example saja...bukan nak kritik sesiapa icon_rolleyes.gif
Sebab benda ni banyak berlaku dek kerana tak menyabor.
Kena sabar bila nak overtake.
Tunggu orang tu buat mistake tongue.gif pastu overtake la.
Kalau follow Redline, payah la dia nak buat mistake since...pro.


teringat zaman F1C...banyak yang tak puashati tongue.gif
kena gak buat rules sebab tak semua rela nak ikut rules.

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Jan 16 2007, 01:27 PM
maranello55
post Jan 16 2007, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jan 16 2007, 09:53 AM)
yeah me too. i think the only clean racing we had was at Valencia and Hockenheim. imho, we could :

i. Make the race longer (like i suggested before). its different between following a car for 5 laps out of 20 laps race (25%) and for 5 laps out of 30 laps ( 16%). we should give an option if you cant pass a car on the track, maybe you can pass them in the pits.

So far, everybody sticks with 1 stop strategy because twice stopping is still not feasible.

ii. introduce penalty system. i know redline is a bit reluctant in this area, i think it will encourage a fair racing.

and.... simple ethics of racing should be practiced by everyone.... give way when blue flagged.... brake early if your following someone into a corner .... use the rear view mirror when exiting the pits... when you off track, dont immediately get into the track, make sure the coast is clear.....and last but not least, this is not bumper car racing  wink.gif

on to imola... practice last nite... only able to clock 1.52  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  i experiencing major major oversteer...
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jan 16 2007, 01:16 PM)
Also, when a car in front taking the outside line, the car behind pleasedon't barge in the inside line.
Sure accident (like in Brno) where the outside line car cannot see the inside line car.
CRASH!!!!!
Example saja...bukan nak kritik sesiapa  icon_rolleyes.gif
Sebab benda ni banyak berlaku dek kerana tak menyabor.
Kena sabar bila nak overtake.
Tunggu orang tu buat mistake  tongue.gif pastu overtake la.
Kalau follow Redline, payah la dia nak buat mistake since...pro.
teringat zaman F1C...banyak yang tak puashati  tongue.gif
kena gak buat rules sebab tak semua rela nak ikut rules.
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I especially agree about the penalty part....We can appoint race stewards to look into race incident complaints and exercise penalty. It is i think is for the good of everyone, so that we dont have someone running strong infront just to be hampered by someone following too close and braking too late into corners...or car trying to do an impossible recovery from a spin as if he is the only one on the track. No offense.

I dont know if this is implementable or not....but it would be a good thing. Its up to the league taikoes...

I only managed a high 1:50s after pretty much satisfied with tyres and gearing...yet to work on diffs and suspension... sweat.gif It is very2 tight indeed....

The Imola link that PCCrazy provided should be read by all....so we can understand the track together interms of dos and donts....

Karom doode, I have not finalised any setup yet la...but u can ask Ryugan since ur car is closer in specs with his....he did a blinding 1:47s last nite... sweat.gif sweat.gif

I dunno wut our 'aliens' can do.....i think we can add Ryugan to the list...LOL

EDIT: I think test race is important here to get use racing with each other....to race in tracks like Imola u need to have trust and know what others will do in situations.

PCcrazy and i did some running together at Spa. One time i followed him down towards Eau Rouge and suddenly he jerk to the left. Fickle me thought that he gave me way or he having some kinna trouble. I cant tab the glance right button coz i was aiming for eau rouge entry apex....so i didnt know where is he or what he is doing....then i swerve into the apex and i saw him at my rear view backing up and out of the track...

Thats one lesson for me....he was being defensive....i shouldve known. This is my first time racing with ppl. Like the msg Madnoren gave before the Spa race, we are racing against each other...not AI....

Pfff..i can talk forever about this forgive me.

This post has been edited by maranello55: Jan 16 2007, 02:58 PM
karom
post Jan 16 2007, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jan 16 2007, 01:59 PM)
Karom doode, I have not finalised any setup yet la...but u can ask Ryugan since ur car is closer in specs with his....he did a blinding 1:47s last nite... sweat.gif  sweat.gif

I dunno wut our 'aliens' can do.....i think we can add Ryugan to the list...LOL
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ok. just curious only. My setup even it can sometime reach 1:48, but it is really hard to excel in curb after Tosa curb to the end. After all, i try using race tyre setup.. medium for front and soft for rear. I think today nak try kasi bias depan 58 or 59.

about rYUGAN..he's the 'sim race alien' in the making now. Very fast and hard to keep up with him.

This post has been edited by karom: Jan 16 2007, 02:25 PM
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post Jan 16 2007, 05:08 PM

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Hish aku blom cukup syarat jadi 'alien' lagi lah laugh.gif
banyak kali practice T_T
Ni masih terkial2 carik setup yang best nih. cry.gif
pening kepala dh..

kt GTRian yang ada hati nak buat cockpit..pakai half bucket seat atau bucket seat
ni seremban punyer harga..seremban mahal lah

RM499 sepasang
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rm580 sepasang
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full bucket..ada nak beli ke..rm1200 bye.gif

ada gak yang 2nd hand (subaru impreza (recaro rm400 sbiji),nissan 180sx,honda CRX..intergra mahal gak..RM200-300)

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post Jan 16 2007, 05:30 PM

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OT : harga subaru seat tu sepasang ke?
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jan 16 2007, 05:30 PM)
OT : harga subaru seat tu sepasang ke?
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single seat >_<
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post Jan 16 2007, 06:46 PM

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dah pening dah ni. pusing2 pun dpt 1:48.1 jer terbaik. tu pun nasib baik jer, kalau tak masuk rumput jer memanjang.

leh share setup2 ko nyer semalam tak ryugan?
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post Jan 16 2007, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jan 16 2007, 05:08 PM)
Hish aku blom cukup syarat jadi 'alien' lagi lah laugh.gif
banyak kali practice  T_T
Ni masih terkial2 carik setup yang best nih. cry.gif
pening kepala dh..

kt GTRian yang ada hati nak buat cockpit..pakai half bucket seat atau bucket seat
ni seremban punyer harga..seremban mahal lah

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full bucket..ada nak beli ke..rm1200 bye.gif

ada gak yang 2nd hand (subaru impreza (recaro rm400),nissan 180sx,honda CRX..intergra mahal gak..RM200-300)
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Yang RM10 tu.

Fuh...menarik la seat tu...selesa....
Tapi tu la...bilik kecik la beb.
Kalau ada umah sendiri...aku race kat living room rclxm9.gif
Sure tak berpeluh...kipas siling letak full power.

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post Jan 16 2007, 07:20 PM

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@maranello55

First of all, thanks for the kind remarks. I was just doing my duty educating those who are not in the know.

As for the Eau ROuge case, I was on the left and you are on the right side by side. So naturally I have the left side apex and you have the right side apex on the crest of eau rouge. You see that the lines therefore have changed. That way we can do side by side until the next corner. It doesn't mean I drive defensively that is my line. You have your rights as well. But you have to give up certain rights because the left hand side is mine all the way up and the right hand side is yours all the way up. But honestly both driver must be good that he can maintain his narrow line all the way.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Jan 16 2007, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(karom @ Jan 16 2007, 06:46 PM)
dah pening dah ni. pusing2 pun dpt 1:48.1 jer terbaik. tu pun nasib baik jer, kalau tak masuk rumput jer memanjang.

leh share setup2 ko nyer semalam tak ryugan?
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hah utk team-mate 550..hehehe
setup nih baru tweak ptg td sket..qualy punyer..
kalo race reduce camber k

tp belum finalize lg..stil in test..setup nih makan tayar
1 lap x ble wat pape..mmg masuk pasir..tunggu 2-3 lap baru dapat perform

kalo rase ada kureng bgtau maybe bleh tweak yang lelain plak laugh.gif

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post Jan 16 2007, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jan 16 2007, 07:27 PM)
setup nih baru tweak ptg td sket..qualy punyer..
kalo race reduce camber k

tp belum finalize lg..stil in test..setup nih makan tayar
1 lap x ble wat pape..mmg masuk pasir..tunggu 2-3 lap baru dapat perform
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Hmm, great since now you understand the setup you can help the others. Ryugan you are sure fast here. 1m 47. Last time I tried I was on the edge to reach that. Hmm I better prepare my setup now.

I'm too smooth into Aqua Minerali perhaps that is the problem. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 07:59 PM

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i will try the setup rYUGAN.
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post Jan 16 2007, 08:19 PM

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wow thanks pc crazy its a good info about Imola.

Now can anyone here procide me some setup tips for newbie, or some examples of setup .. biggrin.gif

should i free of some Anti roll bar and spring rates as well ?


Thanks Izznata for uploading the skin,
I downloaded it but my car still the normal skin lerrrr...i replaced the file already .

This post has been edited by des_k: Jan 16 2007, 08:27 PM
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post Jan 16 2007, 08:28 PM

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Setup tips one : Decrease Slow bump and slow rebound for the chassis. Slow the respond of the chassis to transition. Perfect for tracks that is smooth and requires a lot of left and sudden right turn.

Setup tips two : Play with front antiroll bar to get precise steering direction. But becareful not too much since this is one of major factors determining tyre temp. You can play with rear too if you want laugh.gif

But here, you have to sacrifice a bit of realism. FFB reduce or none at all. I'm faster without but I hate driving without any.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Jan 17 2007, 02:16 AM

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