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post Feb 12 2015, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Feb 12 2015, 06:42 PM)
Reusing lappy netcard.
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This one faster, better and stronger. laugh.gif

May be you may take and sell it separately to those who had their netcards in lappy spoilt.

I bought mine (7260 ac) through taobao over RM100, LOL...
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post Mar 16 2015, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 16 2015, 01:14 AM)
Reddit?PCMasterrace? doh.gif Don't ask from there,they suggest in USD or Euros or Pounds.They dunno about Malaysia. biggrin.gif
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I bet foreign build will be filled with the following brands
- Corsair
- Asus
- Gigabyte

That's all.
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post Mar 16 2015, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Mar 16 2015, 01:20 AM)
See see parts, match whichever would fit the budget. Not PCMasterRace, in BuildMeAPC. This is making me go crazy again.

So far my parts that I prefer are:

CM Elite 130
Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz
Gainward GTX970 4GB GDDR5
WD Caviar Blue 1TB
Asrock H97M-ITX/AC
BenQ GL2460HM
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular - I probably chose the wrong one, please correct me.
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz

Total of RM 3,532.00.

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Apparently not.

Example: http://www.reddit.com/r/buildmeapc/comment...0_pc_for_video/
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OK, I left out their "godbrands" EVGA and NZXT... doh.gif
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kaal @ Mar 18 2015, 04:53 PM)
got my pricelist from Jayacom. They dont seem to have Leadtek GTX 690. Is it better than MSI GTX 960 or just cheaper in price?
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Leadtek GTX 960 is recommended cause it is cheapest GTX960 around.

Any price higher than that make GTX960 not viable to be recommended, as AMD R9 280x is around the same price range with marginally better performance and extra 1GB of VRAM.

I just saw some recent thread which people bought MSI GTX960 Tiger version for RM800, that is probably the most I will pay for a GTX960.
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post Mar 23 2015, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 23 2015, 10:46 PM)
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM885
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM235
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM x1 - RM232
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 GPU + Liteon S900 128GB SSD - RM1399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM179
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM279
BenQ GL2460HM 24 inch 1080p monitor - RM539
Thermaltake Versa H25 chassis - RM129

Optional:
Cooler Master Hyper 212X - RM129

Total: RM3877 (E TECH PC prices since they are having GTX970 + SSD combo on sales as requested)
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Since still have spare balance, I will push for a H97, more modern, extra features, 4 ram slots and support Broadwell (just incase there's a need for upgrade in near future).

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post Mar 24 2015, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(mod_po @ Mar 24 2015, 12:21 AM)
but.........but....... if me,
i would take combo of leadtek GTX970 hurricane+liteon 900S 256GB RM1539 from techview

128gb ssd is so cramp....urghh  rclxub.gif
last time using, always got error with PS "scratch disk full" =___________________=
and sometimes if space is not enuf, got stuck on windows update
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Hmm, actually they provide the option to upsize the SSD with topup?

Definitely fit my need (if I didn't had my GTX970 and Transcend 370 in hands...). sweat.gif

So effectively, it is RM140 for extra 128GB, pretty good deal.

BTW, always prepare some over provisioning space for it.

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post Mar 24 2015, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ Mar 24 2015, 08:28 PM)
thanks for your suggestion, for those mobos, other than better overclocking potential and more costly as well as being able to SLI, do they increase power consumption or any cons?
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Nope. AFAIK, higher tier mobo don't really have any cons apart from the higher price tags.

Higher tier mobo usually have more features, better components (they claim) and more power phases.

Mobo don't affect power consumption much, it is the components connected to it (mainly CPU and GPU) did.

The extra power phases don't really mean it draw more power, but mean the power delivering task is more divided, hence each phases is less loaded and theoretically able to deliver "purer" power.

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post Mar 24 2015, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ Mar 24 2015, 09:18 PM)
thanks alot for your explanation, seems better off adding a hundred plus to upgrade the mobo  biggrin.gif
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But the problem is mobo's "performance" don't really reflecting PC's performance.

What I mean is a RM1k mobo will still give the same performance a RM200 one will do.

So it is bout own preference and budget on whether to spend extra for some high end stuffs.
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post Mar 24 2015, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ Mar 24 2015, 10:01 PM)
I get what you mean. As Tristan has said, it will have better overclocking, and I might be able to upgrade to SLI if i wish in future for that extra rm120. for the pure power you mentioned, i suppose there will be more stable power output from the PSU (provided its good already) and hence less stuttering due to power supply issue?
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Do note not all Z97 board is SLI-able.

Usually it will have 2 PCIE X8 then only it will be SLI-able.

For some great overclocking, people always try to get good PSU and good MOBO.

The task of PSU is to turn AC to DC, and the closer it is to the desired 12V/5V/3.3V with little ripple, we call it better.

Next is how well the mobo turn those 3 voltage supplied into the 1.xx voltage used by the CPU, and power phase and VRM are to make the effects here.

However, Intel's Haswell is said to integrate voltage regulator into the processor itself, so it is unclear how much will the power phase and VRM affect in overclocking for Haswell.
http://hothardware.com/news/Haswell-Takes-...ltage-Regulator

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post Mar 24 2015, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ Mar 24 2015, 10:25 PM)
thanks for your detailed explanation  smile.gif

I might get this mobo with the psu Asus Z97 Pro Gamer

Seasonic M12 II EVO 620W PSU RM350

good enough right?
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Sounds good enough on paper, details you better go google yourself, we non-owner can't really comment much.

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post Mar 25 2015, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(mod_po @ Mar 25 2015, 12:28 AM)
this one better

Intel Core I7-4790k RM1170
SCYTHE KATANA 4 RM89
Gigabyte Z97x-SLI RM499
Leadtek GTX970 Hurricane+ liteon 900s SSD RM1539
Kingston Hyper X fury 8GB -RM249
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
Seasonic S12II Evo 620W 80+ Bronze RM279
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM129

RM4143
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LOL, brah, read again what he said.

He is complaining on overbudget even hadn't include monitor and OS...
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post Mar 25 2015, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(infinity0 @ Mar 25 2015, 12:22 AM)
Hello everyone...im currently planning to buy a gaming desktop/laptop...but most of my friends recommended me to buy a gaming desktop and i've been searching online and have came up with a gaming rig and need all of ur suggestions!

Purpose: Gaming e.g. Dragon Age Inquisition, BF4 etc. (Ultra Settings if possible)
Budget: 3k-4k (including monitor etc.)

Processor: Core i5 4690k RM829
Motherboard: Asrock Z97 Killer RM539
GPU: G-BYTE GTX970 G1 GAMING RM1500
RAM: 2x 4GB/1333 8 chip Kingston RM 240
SSD: Kingston HYPER X FURY (500M/500M) 120GB RM 224
HDD: SeaGate 1TB RM179
Power Supply Unit: Corsair CXM Series 600W RM300

Price is base on ViewNet price list....Price is Rm3811 even without a monitor,CD drive, windows OS lol is there any way to reduce the price? I actually prefer a laptop and wanted to buy an Aftershock S-15...but most of my friends suggest me to get a desktop instead. Thanks alot in advance!
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Requote this build. Though personally I will suggest opt for Asrock H97(m) Pro4 instead for more features. Hadn't include OS, if want with OS but can't overbudget, dump the SSD.
QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 23 2015, 10:46 PM)
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM885
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM235
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM x1 - RM232
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 GPU + Liteon S900 128GB SSD - RM1399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM179
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM279
BenQ GL2460HM 24 inch 1080p monitor - RM539
Thermaltake Versa H25 chassis - RM129

Optional:
Cooler Master Hyper 212X - RM129

Total: RM3877 (E TECH PC prices since they are having GTX970 + SSD combo on sales as requested)
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post Mar 25 2015, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(mod_po @ Mar 25 2015, 12:33 AM)
oke, fixed
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That should do but I will suggest a H97 instead for which
QUOTE(Human10 @ Mar 23 2015, 11:06 PM)
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more modern, extra features, 4 ram slots and support Broadwell (just incase there's a need for upgrade in near future).
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Another thing is that he also need an OS, so may need to ditch the SSD.

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QUOTE(infinity0 @ Mar 25 2015, 01:11 AM)
May i know how does the Intel xeon 1231v3 compared with the i5 4690k? thanks alot for ur suggestion!
Thanks alot Human10!

I have another question...i'm wondering if the customizable laptops e.g. illegear/aftershock are worth buying right now? since their GPU performance are already much better compared to previous ones..
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i5 4690k is unlocked CPU, which is mean to overclock.

Your current budget can't sustain an overclocking built.

If compare stock unoverclocked speed, the Xeon (3.4-3.8Ghz) is pretty similar to i5 4690 (3.5-3.9Ghz), so performance should be pretty similar too. But Xeon is having hyperthread support, so it is having 4 cores 8 threads instead of 4 cores 4 threads on i5. So when the program support multi-thread (particularly video rendering and similar task), the Xeon will likely have an edge than i5.

As for performance laptop, why not?

Mobile or desktop, it always back down to whether you prioritize performance or mobility, though on performance it is generally tolerable (lower down settings, reducing multitasking) but mobility is fixed and you require mobility then it is meaningless to talk about something practically 0 mobility (desktop).

So ask yourself again, do you need mobility or performance?

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QUOTE(infinity0 @ Mar 25 2015, 01:16 AM)
Thanks alot  mod_po! u guys are really so helpful...but how does the Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 compare with the i5 4690k? i see a few of u guys recommend that processor...mm and i think SDD isnt a must ahaha just a luxury to have it lol...
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SSD is a luxury, but also a drug. Once you fall for it, there's no way back.

For rig over 4k, we generally suggest it as a mandatory component (you already spend 4k on rig, what's more to spend another RM200 what?).

For rig under it (your rig I will effectively call it 3.3k budget, cause another RM700 pretty much reserved for OS and monitor), we will try to include it if it doesn't come at the expense of compromising performance (weaker CPU/GPU).

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QUOTE(Exeunt @ Mar 26 2015, 08:09 PM)
Guys wanna ask sifu opinion about these spec
these spec under 1.5k ..
ok or not? for family use

CPU: Intel Core i3 4150
RAM: Gskill Aegis 2x4GB 1600mhz DDR3 
MOBO: Asrock B85M HDS
HDD: WD 1TB Caviar Blue
Chasis: EsuperCase 500w
LCD: BenQ 20' GL2023A

Total: RM1426
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Cut budget on the RAM.

Also, PSU?

Generally, for budget and general home/office use PC, I will suggest getting prebuild, particularly from Dell.
http://www.dell.com/my/p/desktops.aspx?c=m...53~0~239845&p=1
http://www.dell.com/my/p/inspiron-3647-sma...7-small-desktop

A similar custom build will likely cost more. Particularly due to the Win8 license.

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QUOTE(CAC@MBO @ Mar 27 2015, 02:50 PM)
Can help customizr pc for home officr use around rm1.2k. No need gpu.integrate gpu is OK. No gaming. Psu better for corsair right? THanks
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Corsair PSU is only better if you are getting their high end (e.g. AX series), else those budget VS series is nothing more impressive than other brand.

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QUOTE(Dum^Dum @ Mar 28 2015, 04:03 PM)
Hi,

I'm interested in the below spec and planning to get it pretty soon. Hopefully it will fall below 3.3k

1. So, which CPU is better value/performance?
2. Any performance difference between different brand for GPU?

CPU: i5 4670k/4690k or Xeon E3-1231 V3
GPU: GTX970 (Your recommendation)
M/B: Asrock Z97E-ITX or MSI Z97i
RAM: 8gb (Your recommendation)
HDD: Any 1gb/2gb 7200 rpm
PSU: Thermaltake Power Supply Smart SE 630W (SPS-630M)*
Case:Thermaltake Casing iTX CORE V1

*Any recommendation on semi-modular PSU at least 600w
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1. Xeon win hands down in term of performance/price.
2. How much their clockspeed is, how much will the different be then. But generally, it don't really matter to consumers. Also you can always do your own overclock.

Since you running ITX build, reference blower cooler is recommended, and Zotac/Gainward should offer cheapest price for it.

Z-series mobo is generally for overclocking build, quite defeat the purpose if pair with locked Xeon.


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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 28 2015, 04:15 PM)
1.The Xeon E3-1231 V3..not overclockable though.
2.Really tiny. tongue.gif

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM899
Asrock B85M-ITX RM299
Gainward GTX970 4GB GDDR5 RM1099
Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM184
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM279/620W version at Rm359
Noctua NH-L9i RM169
Total:RM3138/3218
CPU Cooler is from IdealTech,the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Are you going for an ITX setup?It costs a bit more. tongue.gif

Not sure how much the casing costs,haven't heard of it before,plus not sure which shop have it. hmm.gif

Also,520W PSU i suggested is enough for Gtx970.Are you gaming on 1080p?
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The cooler having subpar performance, not exactly much more impressive than stock cooler.

If I am to build an ITX build, I will opt for Prolimatech Samuel 17, much more superior performance and flexible fan configuration.

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 28 2015, 09:29 PM)
There's a problem though.The Xeon is slightly hot,better get an aftermarket cooler..and there's not much choice for ITX coolers like 60mm and below, if you've a small casing.. sad.gif Get a watercooler? hmm.gif
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Get this thing and use with the flat profile fan.
http://www.prolimatech.com/en/products/det...bid=421#showtab

In fact this thing alone without fan is already pretty powerful.
http://www.tech-critter.com/2014/05/unboxi...-samuel-17.html

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