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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.8, Please Read Post#1 and #2

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post Jan 1 2015, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 1 2015, 12:00 PM)
hehehe thanks for risking carpal tunnel syndrome to give us the latest instalment of your freaaaking looooonnnnngg articles tongue.gif

Happy New Year to you and everybody else here!!!

ps: as usual it was a good read nod.gif
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post Jan 3 2015, 01:40 PM

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gen-x wow, didn't realise conditions are same as 2008! few thoughts come to mind reading your post...

klse started decline in dec 2007 from 1440s all the way down to 860s before starting its rise in iirc jan 2009. I suspect the low fd rates probly motivated locals to buy into the market then? Of some significance, I think looking back, that was also when the US started its QE program. I think read somewhere they have officially ended QE and the Fed chairwoman talk about possibility of upping interest rates later this year? Salvador Dali on BFM radio show mentioned the real KLSE market ie ex-index stocks probly lost 50-60% already, index stocks GLC "cornered" ... will MBB ever go down?

But locally, petrol prices also go down upon free-floating, property market losing steam, looks like BNM got no motivation to raise interest rates

hahaha I so confused ... lock in 3 years or not? If lock in, and KLSE reveals opportunities, premature w/drawal & forego interest earned? If don't lock in, and KLSE languishes neither here nor there, & interest rates get slashed like in 2008/9?

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post Jan 3 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 3 2015, 04:08 PM)
Hong leong offering 6.98% for 2 months FD..
Requirement is to invest 50k in unit trust

max cap ratio
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Long time no buy UT. Just to update my own knowledge, wat's the front-end, annual mgt & switching fees nowadays? Sorry if OT. Wanna get info for when the time comes drool.gif ... not now la ... but why do the banks think it's a good time for us to buy UT now? unsure.gif

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Bro, with crude oil price below USD60/barrel now, you think our debt going to increase or government going to revise the budget?

lemme guess, probly increase? less oil revenue shocking.gif

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post Jan 3 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 3 2015, 09:47 PM)
2 months 6.98% compared to board rate FD 3.15%,
extra Rm320 can be earned for 50K.

50K unit trust, front charges 5% = Rm2500...  whistling.gif
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hehehe in my books that's a water fish deal... in my books only lah. Still 5% frontend meh?
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post Jan 6 2015, 09:07 AM

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can PIDM handle a 1MDB meltdown? IF it comes to pass?
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post Jan 6 2015, 04:18 PM

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awfully quiet. is everybody busy running around? should i be running around too?? rhb's offer was just too darn good to resist just 2 mths ago sweat.gif
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post Jan 7 2015, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 7 2015, 02:38 PM)
HLB teruk one la.. apa pun tarak ada.. only tau jual unit trust
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hahahaha but think back horrr, yesterday we read mbb got more than 1bil overdue from 1mdb due in Nov but still not collected, now extend again to end Jan. MBB should give more than diary & stationery set imho tongue.gif

btw, my fren visited BR HQ eksklusif center, they gave diary & calendar only, got internet , got espresso machine, meeting room also can use for private mtg rclxms.gif maybe can have fdmcgc agm there biggrin.gif

oh 1 more... anyone know why yesterday Ambank got hentam on volume? Do they have exposure to 1mdb?

ps: note to alexkos... do a search topic for "fresh funds" here and/or in FD V7... haha adult also spoonfeed meh?

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post Jan 7 2015, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 7 2015, 06:08 PM)
Boss, I think you forgot to change the 13th mth rate for the new ave eff rate of 4.07% ?
hehe agree with mgm ... pbb's stepup structure much better, mbb's force you to stay the course unsure.gif

And re OCBC's rates, your details diff than boomchacha's post #2
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OCBC, valid until 31 March 2015 - New added by gsc on 1 December 2014
(1) 13 months FD promo ---> 12 months @3.9% p.a + 13th month @6% p.a = Effective rate is 4.06% - Updated by hcolin on 6 Dec 2014
(2) 3 month Islamic 3.85%


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post Jan 8 2015, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(kykit @ Jan 8 2015, 05:50 PM)
for 12 mths, MBB 4.12% vs PBB 4.18%. PBB is 0.06% higher but with TnC  hmm.gif
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actually, how do the 2 TnC compare? pros & cons? can't find the MBB TnC
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post Jan 9 2015, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 9 2015, 05:27 PM)
Looks like common for people to wait for hrs to get the acct opened and get FD cert in UOB !!  mad.gif I have already send a complaint to UOB, waiting for their reply.  biggrin.gif
Doubted on this requirement on Private Banking. You can try to call other MBB branches on the 4.12% FD promo.  biggrin.gif MBB branches have been known to cite different req'm for FD's.  smile.gif
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wow what a mess! but I think I didn't get any cert when I went UOB in Nov. Just an acknowledgement of the fd? They said no need to bring cert when mature, just my IC & can go any branch?

Regarding the MBB multi-interest rate "stepup" averaging 4.12%, anyone see the T&C yet? I wonder if it actually works on "roll-over if not withdrawn" basis like PBB's
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post Jan 10 2015, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 9 2015, 11:44 PM)
Bro, UOB where got FD Cert? UOB, OCBC and if not mistaken RHB too are Statement Based where no certs are issued.

That's what i remember also. But when bbgoat said "to get the acct opened and get FD cert in UOB" I ask lah becos I didn't get any cert as you had written before ... here's his post >>
QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 9 2015, 05:27 PM)
Looks like common for people to wait for hrs to get the acct opened and get FD cert in UOB !!  mad.gif I have already send a complaint to UOB, waiting for their reply.  biggrin.gif
Doubted on this requirement on Private Banking. You can try to call other MBB branches on the 4.12% FD promo.  biggrin.gif MBB branches have been known to cite different req'm for FD's.  smile.gif
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As for MBB 12 months step up, Monday onwards the Effective Interest Rate will be 4.07% even for Premier Wealth customers, Not sure for Private Banking customers if they still offering 4.2% as mentioned earlier by Pinnacle1295.

From what I know, if you withdraw prior to the first 3 months (which is the first "phase" of the step up), you will not get any dividend (yes, it is Islamic Term deposit). For subsequent months, if you make any withdrawals, the T&C did not specifically state the penalty but something like depending on Profit Sharing and also you may need to pay rebate. Click here to my Fixed Deposit Page if you want to see the breakdown of the Interest Rate Step Up Phases (can't think of a better word of hand, hahaha) again  tongue.gif

Bro, if you ask me, PBB step up 12  months better, besides higher effective interest rate, the T& clearly states how much you will be paid should you uplift the FD and the end of the first 6 months. However, PBB also did state that the interest rate for the subsequent next 6 months is not guaranteed and subjected to OPR. And I guess why PBB can change the interest rate is because the Promo is joint with Term Deposit-i and we know that for Islamic Banking products, there is no such thing as guaranteed interest rate but dependent on profit sharing.
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Absolutely! That's why I said in my earlier comment MBB's interest rate structure over the 12 mths force you to stay the course. After we learn to appreciate PBB's stepup structure, one look at MBB's and you can tell it's a poor attempt... I'd dare to say insincere! Still, I would like to read the actual mbb T&C but have not been able to find it. Can you pls post the link if you have it?

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post Jan 11 2015, 09:54 PM

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Looks like the epf isthe mofs atm machine, doesn't it? What i wanna know is whether it is being repaid with interest back-to-back against the lease rentalsfrom the govt. If not, don't we as contributors have a right to know?

AVfan, AK might just take back his power plants & the 5.5bil problem will go away ...poooffffff!

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...r-deal-with-ak/


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post Jan 13 2015, 09:38 PM

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latest. big c tak jadi

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ger-called-off/
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post Jan 15 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Jan 15 2015, 06:50 AM)
Hong Leong Bank 6-month Premium FD Bundle CASA Promotion
12 January 2015 - 8 February 2015

6-month @ 4.35% p.a. , min. RM100k, 80% FD:20% CASA split

More info: HLB | T&Cs (EN) | T&Cs (BM)

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Wow this looks good ... especially when it says the eff rate is 4.09% for 6mths as stated in the English T&C which said it is based on the Premium savings acct (PSA).

The interest rates table for the PSA says 2.4% for 91-150 days. Unfortunately, i tried & tried calculating but just could not get any effective rate more than 4%.

Can someone else try to verify the 4.09% ?
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post Jan 16 2015, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jan 16 2015, 01:40 PM)
4.5% for 1 year

4.75% for 2 years

5% for 3 years..

promos like these, we are anticipating patiently...
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rich man put money into swiss account gotta pay 0.5% more now ... they just "upped" their interest rate on deposits from -0.25% to -0.75% rclxub.gif

PS: regarding the 4.09% effective rate claimed and advertised in a recent fd promo, it made me think about ethics of advertising in the financial services industry In the US they have legislation covering this issue, though most cases involve banks' effective lending rates. In bolehland, dunno lar tongue.gif

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post Jan 18 2015, 06:50 AM

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my experience - date u deposit the check
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post Jan 19 2015, 05:04 PM

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why mbb no pidm??? wat's the catch?
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post Jan 20 2015, 09:40 AM

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Under the Islamic Financial Services Act 2013, Islamic deposits will be reclassified as either principal guaranteed or investment accounts, and this could lead to a potential spike in operating costs and put further pressure on bank margins, they noted.
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Although some banks are still carrying out the reclassification of deposits to comply with the ruling, banking analysts feel the likely one would be the conversion of investment-based mudarabah (profit sharing) accounts to commodity murabahah (cost-plus).

Anyone can elaborate what that means & what's the impact on FDMCGC players?

Any impact on non-islamic FDs? Will Islamic FD or non-islamic FD five better rates?

New rules may dampen prospects for banks

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post Jan 20 2015, 10:18 PM

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wahhhhh thx for the headsup about HLB. I wanna be one of the aunty and uncle who will go eat. But can eat before making deposit or not? Free makan who dun wan?
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 21 2015, 10:38 AM)
Really tempted, now SGD 2.69. Wonder wanna keep in SG or change back for SCB 4.5% hmm.gif
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Currency movement can be more powerful than extra 0.5%-1% over 15 mths. Summore dunno what the exact T&C is regarding the CASA.... Anybody got the black & white T&C?

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