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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.8, Please Read Post#1 and #2

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post Jan 3 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 3 2015, 04:08 PM)
Hong leong offering 6.98% for 2 months FD..
Requirement is to invest 50k in unit trust

max cap ratio
1 to 2
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2 months 6.98% compared to board rate FD 3.15%,
extra Rm320 can be earned for 50K.

50K unit trust, front charges 5% = Rm2500... whistling.gif


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post Jan 4 2015, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 4 2015, 12:58 AM)
3% only. Hehe

so 50k, 3% is 1.5k

100k 6.98% for 2 mths is rm1163.

So is waterfish deal?
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You need to count against the board rate, aka how many "extra" interest earned, not the total FD interest.
100K 6.98% vs board rate 3.25% is extra RM640, as without need to invest in UT, you still easily can get 3.25% 2 months FD out there.

You get extra Rm640 by going into the deal, while incurred front charge of 1.5K (if it is 3%).

I never said it is a waterfish deal, it is a good deal is one original wanted to buy the UT in the first place.

But if one never interest in UT, and solely want the higher FD rate, then it is a different story.
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post Jan 5 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Garroth @ Jan 4 2015, 05:24 PM)
Guys, do you need to open a PLUS Saving Account with PBB for PB Step Up FD or a Basic Saving Account will suffice?
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Any saving/current account will do as long as can credit in the interest.

But the account name needs to be same with FD account name as far as I was told by the cashier.
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post Jan 5 2015, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 4 2015, 06:07 PM)
I think the Step-up FD comes in handy for your situation cos it gives reasonably high interest plus u can cash out during the rollover to take opportunity of the stockmarket downturn without forgoing all the interest earned. I am in this situation and considering those Step up FD from PBB.
Yes condition now similar to 2008, except in US interest then was going downwards but now interest should be moving upwards.
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Step Up FD is the good option for one that money is intended for temporarily parking before invest elsewhere.
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post Jan 5 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 5 2015, 12:46 PM)
Bro, whenever you do post, I learn something from you  notworthy.gif

Yeah, you are right about PBB Step Up. I think MBB step up promos also same but their initial month(s) interest rates kind of low.

However, there is also a risk of getting lower interest rate in the case of PBB Step Up where it did mentioned in T&C that future rates are dependent on BLR (now is BR effective 1st January).

Anyway, with USD strengthening, gold price in terms of RM has increased 1% since 2nd Jan.
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Rate normally won't have drastic move one, while those step up just 3 months, 6 months for each step, it is unlikely for interest rate to have some significant change within the short tenure that result the step up interest rate is significant difference compared to original stated.





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post Jan 5 2015, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 4 2015, 05:32 PM)
Brw.. i think around march will see opr hike again smile.gif

Let's see
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With current situation unfolding, I would say very unlikely.

Economy very slow out there, export slow down, GDP trending lower.
Goods price, steel, oil, dropping, property price more and less stagnant, inflation threat is reducing.
Household debt growth already slow down significantly.

You don't hike rate when economy growth is trending lower.
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post Jan 5 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 5 2015, 04:59 PM)
That is the logical thinking..

Can BNM be illogical?

Well, I dunno la.. I just hear based on some source.. Saying will hike OPR again this year.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 5 2015, 05:41 PM)
1 fact in 2015 tat we cannot run away.

the US will raise rate this year.

and their monetary policy will have global effect.. now usd 1 = myr 3.54

when rates hike.. probably become 3.70 3.80...

no choice but to hike rates to preserve money in malaysia.. if not, more outflow.
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Actually, the RM situation is not that "scary", every currency also drop against USD, just the degree of drop is more compared to the like Baht, or other emerging currencies, but not overly excessive.

RM vs Yen, Aud actually is rising, and little change against NZD.

So there is no immediate need for rate hike to stop the outflow.
Last time, when US QE, massive inflow, now no more QE, outflow.
As long as it doesn't cause significant threat to the foreign currency reserves adequate needs, BNM doesn't need to raise rate to counter the outflow, those hot money won't also stay in just because 0.25 or 0.5% more in rate.

Somemore, raising rate significantly could kill economy growth.
1997 crisis already gave many countries lesson, raising rate is not the way to solve the money outflow, instead you kill the economy in the process of doing so.
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post Jan 6 2015, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 5 2015, 10:45 PM)
But if bnm dun do anything is good to counter outflow ?
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What BNM can do?
Capital control?
Raising interest rate?

As said before, raising rate will "kill" the economy growth, with high household debt at high level, raising rate will make household debt need to service higher rate, which make the economy spiralling down faster only.

Raising rate to counter outflow is the last resort. After all those may be hot money previously inflowing one, which raising rate to counter the outflow is fruitless effort, only benefiting "hot money' only.
At the moment with foreign currency reserves stands at more than USD110 bil, it is not a critical situation, (back 97 crisis, foreign currency reserves was less than 30 bil).


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post Jan 8 2015, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 8 2015, 08:42 AM)
luck pick/draw for FD placement.
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I never ever bother about lucky draw as I don't even know whether I am actually in the draw or not, how the draw being made etc.
Even the exact date of draw sometimes also don't know.
Then winner name just appeared afterwards.

Unless I have the luck like this.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3451572/all
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post Jan 22 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(muncee @ Jan 22 2015, 01:07 PM)
Only for new customer without any account with SCB.
Need to open an account and deposit RM1500.
But next day can transfer out.

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But I see from the picture that the condition need to earmark in saving account.
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post Jan 28 2015, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 28 2015, 09:28 PM)
As expected, BNM maintained OPR at 3.25%.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=3143&lang=en
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There is no way BNM will raise the OPR for near term by looking at situation around.
Sg adopted loosely monetory policy lately as well. Euro QE, treasuries yield plunged below 2%.

If GST kicking in and resulted significant slowdown in economy, we may see OPR cut, instead of hike.

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QUOTE(LDP @ Jan 29 2015, 10:06 AM)
If Fed Reserve were to hike up interest rate gradually in 2nd half of 2015 (as expected), and there is an exodus of foreign funds, do you think BNM will cut the OPR ?
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Status quo is the most likely scenario.

With commodities price plunging, inflation factor is diminishing and may fall below inflation target preferred by Fed, which may push the rate hike even further down the road.

Treasuries yield now at 1.8% already tell the story. Treasuries yield is the ultimate "story teller" of the situation of interest rate.
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QUOTE(tbheng @ Feb 1 2015, 09:06 AM)
Beware of the SCB RM100 monthly fee. It will kick in automatically. I kena last year when my total drop below the minimum. RM100 per month charged to my account on the dot every month like clock work!!  sweat.gif  sweat.gif I found out only after the 2nd monthly fee charged as SCB is not my main banker.
Called to ask for waiver...they say if top up then can waive. I got no more bullet then, all gone to other FD promo.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I find PB or not has no difference one.

Nothing special, FD rate still the same.
Still need to Q, sometime the Q in PB counter (or in some bank they have a lounge) is longer (as may be too many PB customer or split it too many cert due to large amount hence take longer time for counter to process).
Many time resort using normal route instead PB one, faster.

I don't see anything special, in fact charges may be incurred if AUM fall below the threshold.
I rather to be normal customer, can switch all the fund if other have better promotion rate.
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QUOTE(lowya @ Feb 9 2015, 12:12 PM)
Don't worry wait for 4.75%

EPF rate so high, how can we use it as FD? any guide?
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EPF is not benchmark how high FD rate.

With the likelyhood of OPR won't be raised in 2015, it is unlikely promotion rate for FD will go even higher than current what being offered.
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post Feb 9 2015, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Feb 9 2015, 03:46 PM)
Few banks offering that like BR, AmBank, HL Bank Islamic etc doing that. But some have certain conditions, please check or call them first.  biggrin.gif
Hoping and waiting for OPR to go up is just a "hope".  tongue.gif  We can wait but still need to put available money at those FD rates which are reasonably high at the moment.  biggrin.gif
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Just Fyi,
With newly announced Euro QE, high quality bond in Europe are approaching zero and Nestle bond matured at 2016 is at negative yield, -0.004%. laugh.gif

Thailand, Sg are facing deflation, so can expect slash in interest rate and loosely monetory policy.
India was slashing interest rate previously as well.
RBA also just slashed rate to 2.25% recently.



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post Feb 20 2015, 08:44 AM

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With CPI at record low 1%, it is virtually almost zero chance that OPR going to be raised at near term.

With promotion rate at over 4%+, it is something "peak" for FD already for near term.

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 20 2015, 09:38 AM)
you think possible fd can go over 4.5?
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My guess is unlikely, without OPR being raised, there is a limit how far promo FD rate can go.

If the rate keep on going higher than 4.5%, it may be better off for bank to source funding through borrowing.
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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Feb 25 2015, 11:02 AM)
Few months ago, I had an argument with AM Bank Sri Petaling branch when they did not allow me to put a chop/cross on my IC when placing my FD, the Chinese female RM (not a leng lui) said like this to me twice: "Mr. Boom, if you worry this and worry that, why don't you keep your money in your house?" This is the rudest RM I have ever encountered...!

Later, I found out Am Bank OUG branch is also under this female RM administration. So next time, I will not place my FD in Sri Petaling branch and OUG branch. And I was thinking to complain about this female RM to HQ.
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Please phone to the bank HQ and complain, let the RM has grilling session. icon_rolleyes.gif

If I were you, I will close account and walk away, no point entertain this kind of attitude.




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post Feb 25 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Feb 25 2015, 03:18 PM)
I was thinking to complain, but I think I will complain after I withdraw my FD first, because
I am worried she might take revenge to sabotage me since my money is still there.

If I complain, I will call the branch manager first, then fax an official complain letter to
Bank HQ (maybe to HR department), and cc a copy to the branch manager in Sri Petaling
and also OUG branch.

The most pissed me off was that the Bank RM mentioned twice to ask me to keep my money at home...  mad.gif
Why she mentioned twice I think because she wanted to make sure I heard what she said..?

This RM is lucky this time, because my doctor asked to cool down since I got a high blood
pressure..

Last time, when I complained a RM , the male branch manager asked me to fax the complain letter to his room, but I said I wanted to fax the letter to public fax machine,
I knew that the branch manager wanted to cover/protect the RM without letting other staffs know
about my complaint.
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RM cannot sabotage your FD nor any money in the bank.
Rest assure.

Bank personnel are high paid employee, this (keep money at home) is totally unacceptable in term of professionalism.

Fax it to HQ, 99% the RM will have some good grillling session, and may severely affecting the performance benchmark.

Complain to branch manager, most of time is useless one.
That's why many thing only can be done through HQ, even issuing cheque book, most bank's branch do not have authority to do so now, all are done through HQ.

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Mar 21 2015, 01:10 AM)
All this was due to system problems & they don't even bother to pre-inform the customers or be terribly sorry or provide some compensation.

So in summary we always need to be vigilant & check (not sure if such things ever happen in other countries)
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There is a reason, why some banks/company are more reputable than another due to the service quality and why they have large base on loyal customer/depositor.

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