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post Jan 3 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Jan 3 2015, 09:25 PM)
Guys, wanna ask.....i often noticed this when my hero is still low level. Sometimes when I get hit by enemy, there's this "additional damage" with red blood drop symbol appear like a critical hit.

What exactly it is? I can guess it means I'm taking additional damage, but what causes it & how much additional damage?

The easiest way for this to happen is when a tower hits me when I'm like below lvl 3.
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Can check this page for your possible infos
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Damage_types
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post Jan 20 2015, 12:15 PM

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Usually, I like joke around than make ppl mad.

"thx for the gg, uninstal dota pls" smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2015, 12:19 PM

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Btw, is there a guide where I can improve my positioning during team fights?

Typically, at the beginning of team fights, almost everyone starts with their strongest skill and then runs behind, or should you just lembu every nearest enemy and hope you survive the onslaught?

Lets say I play a jugger, so what is my best role during a team fight?
Normally, I stay close behind an initiator or tanker, then omni slash the enemy hoping I'll be able to minimize their hp. After that I blade fury while running back and cast healing wards to heal my tanker. Then what?
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Jan 20 2015, 12:30 PM)
see situation...if ur initiator or tanker die and enemy hero left 1 or 2 low hp u go kill it..or enemy hero all revive liao time to back..
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Ok, so ideally who should I aim first? The tanker, the ranged, or the support?

QUOTE(Blues89 @ Jan 20 2015, 12:43 PM)
positioning i think need to learn through experience.
cant be taught in words like this cos every scenario will bring diff position to its best.easiest way to learn is to make mistake and let ppl scold u for it,"why stand there noob?!" LOL
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Yea, right now I'm learning like that. Can be depressing sometimes, cause each time you lose team fights, you can't see what went wrong. Just somehow your hp goes down so quick and die before you realize where u at. sweat.gif
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post Jan 21 2015, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Jan 20 2015, 12:55 PM)
Very subjective and every single team fight will be different... Mostly I will target healers such as dazzle, omni, necro in fights... Sometimes I target those glass cannon carries like sniper / drow.. depending which hero make or breaks the fight..

Never ever target tankers in fights unless you can burst them down fast enough like axe, tide, bb...

But still it depends on the situation...
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Hmm, so I'm not actually far from the truth. Ok, will improvise my objective after this. Thanks!

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 20 2015, 01:43 PM)
it is still consider offensive behavior  sweat.gif 

just like you went to hell kitchen show and Gordon Ramsay ask you chop off your hand and never step in kitchen again.
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Its just a joke. Some people take it well, others not so especially the losing end. I just said that when the enemy blamed one of their mates for their loss. So I told them to just uninstal dota if they can't take the stress. They'll wake up happier the next day. laugh.gif

QUOTE(v1n0d @ Jan 20 2015, 01:59 PM)
funnyTONE If you really want to learn positioning, play CM. Low move speed, squishy as a ripe banana - perfect for teaching you where to stand.

This is the last game I played as CM, the replay should still be available:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1165806909
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Hmm, I always have the impression that an experienced player should play as support because it requires a lot of map awareness, knowing where to ward, who to heal and when to strike. Normally for newbies, I think its better to let them play a straightforward right click hero.
Anyway, I'll try your advice sometime this weekend. I'm not actually a fan of full support or even a carry. I normally enjoy a semi-carry role or semi-support.
Example whenever I play as Juggernaut, I'm always aware of using my healing wards to support my mates once my omni and blade fury are used. Just take a few steps back and micro manage my wards to wounded heroes. I almost never see any other Jugger play like this. Most times the wards are for themselves.
Playing as Tiny, despite being the expected tanker role, I usually prefer to stay 1 step behind and use my stun and toss as secondary followups to the initiator's stun or nuke. The problem for me is its very difficult to retreat as Tiny because I'm an easy big target. There were the occasional odd built where I used Shadow Blade as my escape item. But more often than not, I end up dying first with Tiny despite having an overall high kill rate by the end of the game.

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v1n0d just watched your replay of CM. Totally impressed with your mad skills. I personally love to learn more about warding. I'm curious though, at the start of the game why did you plant an observer in front of the fountain?
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QUOTE(Blues89 @ Jan 21 2015, 09:37 AM)
show teammate that wards should be sold in 1 not 2 xD
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You mean purchased?
Do you mean that at start of the game some one buys one ward and drop on the floor then buy another so that you can place at two rune spots by two heroes?

Also, since the new update, a lot of first kills are happening near the rune. I learned something new from that replay. Nice spot by pudge mang. notworthy.gif Just too bad it didn't connect.

Quick question:

1- watching replays only lets me see the global chat. Is it possible to read the party's chat instead?

2- I'm assuming you guys are playing MMR using mic to communicate. Or does pinging be sufficient?
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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Jan 21 2015, 10:00 AM)
I didn't. In that game, the other support (VS) was a new player who was using his friend's account. He had no idea how to transfer wards, and he tried passing them without using CTRL+click. doh.gif
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lolz!
Reminds me of the time my friend tried hard to transfer tango to me. Everytime he pass to me, its not usable wan. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(harusame1989 @ Jan 21 2015, 11:19 AM)
There was a post I read in reddit about a person who ranting about the Ranked AP Mode in Unranked Game, saying vavle should not just make it for one week instead and implement it forever.

Personally I thought it was the best change so far, I never enjoy the game so much for that 1 week and you almost get the pug as close to the ranked match feel instead of half of your game is one-sided or heroes countering game. It is a good way to learn or testing hero build in the best way possible without worry losing mmr.

My Main Reason loving that mode:
1. Can test hero with possible build without worry enemy with all 3 to 4 hero countering you. (e.g I tend to pick TA first sometime, but then enemy last min all Veno, Pudge, batrider. I was like wtf? again?! and I am the only carry.)
2. The game is way more balanced. Its hard to counter last minute, which is very nice.
3. No more last min random shit or last min pause to choose counter hero.

But still, majority still prefer the old mode. Ranting about not fun anymore, basically i just think they want to bully ppl with counter hero meta, instead of enjoy the thrill of balance match.

Want to know your thought about the new mode. Would you wish vavle to implement it back for better gameplay?
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The first time this happened, I thought I messed up my setting somewhere. Suddenly picking heroes were a whole lot different. As a low level player, both mode makes not much difference to me, but I do agree the AP mode kinda nifty in a sense you need to choose your heroes well and quick, but it takes forever to complete. The old one can sometimes mess up the draft especially playing with stunners and no carry.

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My first few rounds with CM.

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Quite fun to be honest. Though its a bit annoying when allied heroes keep bugging you to wards. I barely have any items on me except Tranquil Boots, Aghanim Scepter, Drum and Blink dagger. Constant wards, wards, wards.

But it does allow me to position myself a bit better during team fights. I still couldn't perform a proper ulti with CM though. Most of the time I get killed before the ulti ends.
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QUOTE(r1nk @ Jan 22 2015, 07:17 AM)
boot,agh, drum and blink.. chill, consider urself very lucky to get those items when playing cm.. xD
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Hoho, not sure how I feel about this, but I suppose I'm doing it right then.
my teammates did tell me to get shadow blade during mid-game seeing how I often get targeted often by the enemy.
I told them "you want wards or shadow blade?"
"Ward"

Earlier when I started playing DotA about a month ago, I never really bothered with wards since us newbies don't realize its importance. plus the opposing side doesn't either. But now I do feel ward wars are more common as I go higher level, especially when partying with high level teammates.

there is a certain satisfaction knowing a well-placed ward can contribute to a successful gank, prevent enemy gank, destroying enemy's ward, detecting techies bombs and revealing invi heroes.
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QUOTE(Blues89 @ Jan 22 2015, 09:53 AM)
my cm?midas,bkb lol....
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Care to justify?
Would BkB allow ur ulti to be uninterrupted?
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 22 2015, 10:20 AM)
i was fed up in yesterday match, i recently encounter NP do nothing but farm only.
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NP feed you? How you do it? Can CM solo vs NP?

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QUOTE(avan87 @ Jan 22 2015, 10:54 AM)
http://youtu.be/1pWppqAxNis

JimBenDoto play mid CM and owning the game. 

Fun to watch and learn laugh.gif  laugh.gif
p/s - i forgot how to coding youtube hyperlink..  icon_question.gif
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lolz, damn nice.
I like that combo though... frostbite, first skill, hit, then ulti.
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Thanks for the tips!
Will definitely keep that in mind nwxt time I meet a Silencer or NP. notworthy.gif


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Come to think of it, I suppose you're right. But it was quite late in the game that I got the scepter and blink. I think it was past 40 minutes.

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I'm not even played any ranked match at all.
Wish could play with you guys though...
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QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Jan 24 2015, 06:12 AM)
Salah ke kalau inform dekat community. People like them do not deserve our support.

"the way u act lately, doesnt show that u are better than him bro."

What does this means? I posted in this forum frequently because i wanted to give something to the community. Well if i'm not welcomed, i can stop posting stuff in this forum.

"its just a game. what happen in game, settle in game."

IKR.
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I understand how you feel, but just move on.
Obviously you know who doesn't suit well with your style. Better regret now than later.
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sorry for the noob question, but what META means?
Also, I understand safe lane, but offlane is it the other lane?
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QUOTE(babycry123 @ Jan 25 2015, 01:23 PM)
Metagame, standard picks, play, and corresponding reactions.

Off lane means hard lane. For radiant is top, for dire is bottom.
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I see. So meta means the current fave?
I used to thought offlane is jungling, thanks for the explanation. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 25 2015, 02:51 PM)
Specific item/skill build for early rosh?
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I imagine if a jugg goes very early for roshan, he'd have to sacrifice bf points and max heal ward and crit first. then rush for MoM.
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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jan 25 2015, 03:14 PM)
people just up bladefury 1 just as escape mechanism(tp/remove dust)

compare to normal hit, its not worth it to use bf as damage source, too low
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kewl, i normally up bf for ita first kill worth. this is definitely worth trying today. been awhile havent played my jugg.

Zzzz....my jugg isn't fast enough to farm MoM.

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