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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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The_Rock
post Jun 7 2020, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(oieric36 @ Jun 6 2020, 07:23 PM)
What can these medium do? Isn't just the role of the medium to let god possess their body? What power does the medium possess?

If the medium did bad things, God should punish them. Even if God doesn't punish them, karma should take it course.
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Some times not God only help. Medium also follow the God command to help the people when the god is busy with their duties. So medium does possessed power to help people or hurt people. Yes. The god will punish but there is some powerful and bad medium also won’t care and some times angered their god.
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post Jun 7 2020, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(oieric36 @ Jun 6 2020, 11:18 PM)
I been to many gods to ask whether will I get the job. All the god give me different answers. If you don't believe, you can go give it a try. Go to a few god and ask the same question. If they are truly god, they ought to give you the same answer.

I have been to many temple asking the same question by qiu bei. All the bei will be different. I tried it si mai lu temple and jade emperor temple (havelock road). Both of them give me different answer. Some day I go back to the temple every single day, the bei will never always be the same. If there is something inside, the bei ought to be always the same.

Even these temple god are not even reliable. I wonder how reliable can those deities that we pray in our home.

To be a medium, the medium need to go to jade emperor temple (havelock road) to get the Ling. If the Jade Emperor temple bei can't always be the same, how accurate can these medium be? When we invite these medium to 'dian guang' the statute to bring home to pray, how reliable can these deities be when the medium is not accurate.

Why can't we throw away these deities under the tree? If they are really god, they will go back to heaven. But no, they will be angry if u don't dispose them properly and they will take revenge.

The only conclusion is that all these aren't god. It's like spirit.

I would like to hear the opposing view.
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To find a true medium and god that can help you is depend on your fate with the GOD. If you don’t have fate then no matter how u find u will forever can’t find the god that can help you.
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Jun 7 2020, 01:28 AM)
To find a true medium and god that can help you is depend on your fate with the GOD. If you don’t have fate then no matter how u find u will forever can’t find the god that can help you.
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I do not what's 'true medium' or 'fate'. The purpose of medium is to help people. Why do we need to depend on fate?

If there is such thing as 'fake medium', god ought to take action against it rather than letting it wreck ppl lives.
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QUOTE(oieric36 @ Jun 7 2020, 05:00 PM)
I do not what's 'true medium' or 'fate'. The purpose of medium is to help people. Why do we need to depend on fate?

If there is such thing as 'fake medium', god ought to take action against it rather than letting it wreck ppl lives.
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Well it is up to people belief. I can’t control it.
There fake and true. Depends how you look at it.
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post Jun 22 2020, 03:23 PM

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The future is always in motion. What a deity can see at this moment can quickly change due to the actions of billions of people and non-people.

So, it's better don't ask too specific questions about the future. It's not that the deities are lying or have no power, but that the future is very fluid.
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post Jun 26 2020, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Jun 22 2020, 03:23 PM)
The future is always in motion.  What a deity can see at this moment can quickly change due to the actions of billions of people and non-people.

So, it's better don't ask too specific questions about the future.  It's not that the deities are lying or have no power, but that the future is very fluid.
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Deities can not tell you the future they can only hinted you the future. Because it will defy law of nature and this makes their ranking drop down.
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post Jun 29 2020, 09:59 AM

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Tua Li Pek Ya birthday
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Jun 26 2020, 06:46 PM)
Deities can not tell you the future they can only hinted you the future. Because it will defy law of nature and this makes their ranking drop down.
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It would hurt the spirit mediums "tangki" cause they reveal "sky secret 天机"
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QUOTE(oieric36 @ May 30 2020, 09:11 PM)
What's the general view of Sintua / Tangki?

I used to believe in them alot. Some of the stuff that the medium tell me about myself is true. However, I realised that if you asked them what will happen in future. They can't give you an accurate answer.

That time I was asking them whether can I get a job from xxx company.

1st medium (tua ya pek) told me that I can't get it.
2nd medium (tua ya pek from another temple, a replacement tua ya pek as the usual god didnt come that day) told me that I can't get it. He told me to go to a temple to pray certain god. I went back for the next session and asked the usual tua ya pek, he said that I can get the job.
3rd medium (bao gong) told me that I can get the job.
4th medium (ji gong) said that I can't get the job.

In the end, I didn't get the job.

I come to the conclusion that these god are not really gods after all. They may just be spirit that's all. I do not know why do they want to pretend to be god and give people false hope. If there is karma in this world, why didn't these fake god gotten karma for deceiving people.

Is anyone able to shed more light about sintua/tangki? If you think you know of an accurate tangki, please let me know. As I really want to find a real god to guide me.
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I have been to many tua li ya pek temple.. experienced few quite accurate. didn't even have to ask, they will just answer all your questions by hinting and figure out yourself. Most of the temples I have positive experiences are in Singapore...

it's really sad that the image of god spirit medium which is in good faith is tarnished by these fake tangkis
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QUOTE(Gods and Deity @ Jul 23 2019, 10:21 PM)
Hi, do you have relevant pictures and information about the following? I'm recently following a sintua, wish to gain more knowledge regarding the gods.

关帝
观音
大伯公
中坛元帅
齐天大圣
济公仙师
文财神
武财神
玄天上帝
莲花三太子
太上老君
虎爷
五营军将
土地公
土地婆

Thank you in advance for the sharing!!
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this YouTube channel is sharing lots of information on chinese deities... and the best part is that it's in english!


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QUOTE(abomination @ Jul 15 2020, 12:06 AM)
It would hurt the spirit mediums "tangki" cause they reveal "sky secret 天机"
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And the god rank will drop as well
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post Jul 15 2020, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(abomination @ Jul 15 2020, 12:21 AM)
this YouTube channel is sharing lots of information on chinese deities... and the best part is that it's in english!


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YT 404!!!

any other link ?

thanks
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jul 15 2020, 12:17 PM)
YT 404!!!

any other link ?

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My apologies.. made a mistake there 😅 The channel is “Hakka Moi” on YouTube.


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post Jul 23 2020, 09:27 PM

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may i ask is this not the same as Tao religion? thanks
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QUOTE(moonhowler @ Jul 23 2020, 09:27 PM)
may i ask is this not the same as Tao religion? thanks
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No, although Tao elements were adopted by folk religion.
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QUOTE(oieric36 @ Jun 2 2020, 04:18 PM)
i go to temple qiu bei. I always qiu 3 bei. I ask the same question but sometimes always get 3 different bei combination. Its so frustrating. If it is real, the bei answer shouldn't change.

I go to the Jade Emperor Temple in Singapore.
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one of my favs temple Jade Emperor

i never qiu bei about anything. what comes what goes around just pray as normal.
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Hi all! Does anyone know the process of worshipping Yue Lao?

During Chinese new year I went to pray Yue Lao asking for a match, I lit up some candles from the temple. Recently I've got myself a partner. Is there anything I can do to show my gratitude? I've looked up several websites and some say to bring some candies (or anything sweet).
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QUOTE(HwangTommy @ Aug 5 2020, 03:12 PM)
Hi all! Does anyone know the process of worshipping Yue Lao?

During Chinese new year I went to pray Yue Lao asking for a match, I lit up some candles from the temple. Recently I've got myself a partner. Is there anything I can do to show my gratitude? I've looked up several websites and some say to bring some candies (or anything sweet).
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Congratulations!
You may offer candles, sweets, traditional biscuits. Perhaps offer in pairs (even numbers).
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I m moving my original ancestor tablet back to my house soon.

The tablet was moved from my late father's house to my late brother's house and now I would be moving it to my house.

I read online that can just bring back and just do offering after moving.

Anyone done such moving before? Need to ask sifu at temple?
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QUOTE(cheepet @ Aug 22 2020, 10:50 AM)
I m moving my original ancestor tablet back to my house soon.

The tablet was moved from my late father's house to my late brother's house and now I would be moving it to my house.    

I read online that can just bring back and just do offering after moving.

Anyone done such moving before? Need to ask sifu at temple?
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To be safe, consult medium at temple. Can also ask the recommended date and time to do so.

This post has been edited by putra23: Aug 24 2020, 02:31 PM

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