Alamak! Please dont start this again!

Koalaland outlook good?
AFAIK, China slow down will affect mining industry down under. And its car industry will cease to exist in a few years.

Why?

Toyota Motor Corp. (7203) will stop building cars in Australia in 2017, spelling the end of the local industry after Ford Motor Co. (F) and General Motors Co. (GM) announced last year they also plan to pull out.

The Japanese company, which started making cars in the country in 1963, cited high manufacturing costs, an elevated Australian dollar and low economies of scale. Toyota has 2,500 manufacturing employees in the country, it said in an e-mailed statement today.

Toyota’s decision marks the end of an Australian car industry that traces its roots to 1901, as a fall in trade tariffs, the small scale of local plants and an Australian dollar that surged almost 50 percent against the U.S. currency from 2009 to 2012 pushed consumers to cheaper imports. Ford said in May that it would stop output in October 2016, while GM’s Holden unit announced a 2017 departure in December.

“Once Ford and Holden went, it was always going to be hard for the last one to survive,” said Stephen Walters, JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s chief economist in Australia, citing the strength of the currency, small scale of local production and high costs. “There will be spillover effects in terms of employment lost in the car industry itself and related industries.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-10/t...ws-ford-gm.html

Actually got la. But VERY minimal.

Chill guys

Oops. Did I brought it up?

This post has been edited by TakoC: Jan 19 2015, 10:40 AM

Now don't tell me about taxes

I will start another round of biawak shit stories

Cause I knew a fund manager.

So I asked him to seperate calculate the following day NAV if the fund didn't have declared the distribution.

VERY minimal la.

1. The fund would have to raise cash to pay those unitholders who chose to receive distributions in cash
2. Administrative expenses
3. ???

With the new Section 108 single-tier dividend system, tax is no longer an issue.

Not tax. More of the calculation of the units to be distributed.

For sure when they calculate the units, it won't be perfect due to decimal places.

PaiSEH, Pai She

ok, let start another theory....
if A got 10,000 units in fund A
B got 12,000 units in fund B

if both fund Nav increased by RM 0.10

A will have + RM 1000
B will have + RM 1200

up until now...I think the above is correct...am I?

if correct....then continue....
that means MORE units will get more gains when the Nav is up the same. Right?

if correct, the continue....
that will also means MORE units will get more loses when the Nav drops. Right?

if yes ...then continue....
how can get more units?..2 methods I can think of..
1) buy more
2) ............. (dare not say...later kena biawak shits)

A and B invest in different stocks/sector/market

Apple and Banana comparison!!!

yes, I know,
but will MORE units get more $$ when the Nav goes up?

Cos A and B invest in different stocks/sector/market

If A rise 10 sen
B may or may not rise 10 sen

The circumstances and conditions are totally different!

if different coverage can drop the same Nav...0.0014, so can they up the same?


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God ar...rescue me ar...

huh? someone called? whoa... lightning!
joking joking - stop poking needles into that voodoo doll

anyhow - YKLooi
eh.. just logic yar, haven't translated to google sheet or Excel yet to prove the point (which may be moot):
Clarifying your Q:
U are asking when more units (due to distribution reinvested):
a. impact of NAV going up
b. impact of NAV going down
AFTER the reinvestment?

If so, using Pink's moon cakes (yummy ):
1. no matter how many slices (units), after distribution is still 1 moon cake
2. Now, after (1.), price of moon cake goes up +20%, gain +20%
3. OR, after (1.), price of moon cake goes down +40%, lose +40%

that's it right?
didnt dive into the details & spreadsheet coz it may get lost in details the above big pix
Just a thought

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jan 19 2015, 12:10 PM

Just ignore him only...

Is it advisable to invest in these funds if you're going into stocks too? I know if you buy equity funds, they are still the same as the stocks you are buying, but maybe for diversication purpose?

In short, do you guys buy both stocks (Picking by yourself) and also equity funds at the same time? If so, why?

the logic of "gain" after distribution is not a problem..fully understand and VERY clear.
The question is more on Post#912.

Those that made use of the 0.5% and topped up Ponzi 2.0 shall benefit from the dropped in HSI and SHCOMP today. Win-win.