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post Dec 29 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
whistling.gif  -2.78% whole port YTD.. haha  laugh.gif
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How about stock market? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 05:25 PM)
How about stock market? brows.gif
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blush.gif +-10% from 18.. cause of Symlife :C
haha u?

Who's tht pretty girl? tongue.gif

This post has been edited by woonsc: Dec 29 2014, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 05:09 PM)
Guys...2014 coming to an end...remember post your 2014 full-year ROI here...just for sharing biggrin.gif
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how to see the full year ROI geh? go analyze portfolio there ah? i only know my full portfolio is +4% only sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 29 2014, 05:50 PM)
how to see the full year ROI geh? go analyze portfolio there ah? i only know my full portfolio is +4% only  sweat.gif
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Must exclude CMF portion otherwise it will be very low smile.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Dec 29 2014, 09:01 PM)
Must exclude CMF portion otherwise it will be very low smile.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 29 2014, 05:50 PM)
how to see the full year ROI geh? go analyze portfolio there ah? i only know my full portfolio is +4% only  sweat.gif
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Use this formula:

Total Profit/(Loss) / (Portfolio value at beginning of year + Total amount invested/(withdrawn) during the year/2) x 100%


This is the most simple way of calculating 12-month return on investment

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 09:14 PM)
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Use this formula:

Total Profit/(Loss) / (Portfolio value at beginning of year + Total amount invested/(withdrawn) during the year/2) x 100%


This is the most simple way of calculating 12-month return on investment
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if count like that, then its 8.8%.. rclxub.gif use total profit ke? what if the profit is from 2013? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:46 PM)
if count like that, then its 8.8%..  rclxub.gif  use total profit ke? what if the profit is from 2013?  hmm.gif
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That's why it's best to try to keep track every year. If you take total profit, then 8.8% - previous year profit % would be this year ROI.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:46 PM)
if count like that, then its 8.8%..  rclxub.gif  use total profit ke? what if the profit is from 2013?  hmm.gif
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No, u must compare apple to apple.

Take only profit generated during past 12 months.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Dec 29 2014, 09:51 PM)
That's why it's best to try to keep track every year. If you take total profit, then 8.8% - previous year profit % would be this year ROI.
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ok headache liao. i think last year im at -4%, so include this 8% this year, thats why my current holdings is +4%. make sense right? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 09:52 PM)
No, u must compare apple to apple.

Take only profit generated during past 12 months.
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how to know whats the profit generated in 2014 only ah?

take the total current holdings - total holdings of 2013?
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:53 PM)
ok headache liao. i think last year im at -4%, so include this 8% this year, thats why my current holdings is +4%. make sense right? laugh.gif
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I don't know wanna doh.gif or vmad.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 09:54 PM)
I don't know wanna doh.gif or vmad.gif

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hahahah why la FSM dont give us a button to click to get this ROI thing rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 29 2014, 09:54 PM)
how to know whats the profit generated in 2014 only ah?

take the total current holdings -  total holdings of 2013?
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U got keep record of profit (in Ringgit figure) as at 31 Dec 2013 or not?

If no...then tricky a bit sweat.gif

hmm.gif

Your portfolio VALUE as at 1 Jan 2014 is your (reset) COST for year of 2014.

Portfolio value as at 31 Dec 2014 - (Portfolio value as at 1 Jan 2014 + Total amounts invested/(withdrawn) during 2014) = Profit for 2014

E.g. portfolio value as at 1 Jan 2014 is RM10,000
During 2014 u total/net pumped in RM3,000
At 31 Dec 2014 your portfolio value is RM15,000
Profit during year 2014 is thus RM2,000

ROI = RM2,000 / (RM10,000 + RM3,000/2) x 100% = 17.4%

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Full year ROI... if you have excel, use the XIRR formula...

31/12/2013 (10,000)








31/12/2014 11,000 10.00%

The above figures are in cells A1, B1, A10, B10 and C10.
C10 has this formula: =XIRR(B1:B10,A1:A10,0.01)

- what is important is the total values of the portfolio at 31st Dec.
- Any new investments and withdrawals, add the dates and their values in between the above figures.
- Investments are in negative values

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 09:57 PM)
U got keep record of profit (in Ringgit figure) as at 31 Dec 2013 or not?

If no...then tricky a bit sweat.gif

hmm.gif

Your portfolio VALUE as at 1 Jan 2014 is your (reset) COST for year of 2014.

Portfolio value as at 31 Dec 2014 - (Portfolio value as at 1 Jan 2014 + Total amounts invested/(withdrawn) during 2014) = Profit for 2014

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ah, thats what i thought too.

then i will recalculate laugh.gif
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 29 2014, 09:58 PM)
Full year ROI... if you have excel, use the XIRR formula...

31/12/2013  (10,000)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
31/12/2014  11,000  10.00%

The above figures are in cells A1, B1, A10, B10 and C10.
C10 has this formula: =XIRR(B1:B10,A1:A10,0.01)

- what is important is the total values of the portfolio at 31st Dec.
- Any new investments and withdrawals, add the dates and their values in between the above figures.
- Investments are in negative values
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This is the most scientific/accurate way of calculating nod.gif

My method is the more simplistic one. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 09:57 PM)
U got keep record of profit (in Ringgit figure) as at 31 Dec 2013 or not?

If no...then tricky a bit sweat.gif

hmm.gif

Your portfolio VALUE as at 1 Jan 2014 is your (reset) COST for year of 2014.

Portfolio value as at 31 Dec 2014 - (Portfolio value as at 1 Jan 2014 + Total amounts invested/(withdrawn) during 2014) = Profit for 2014

E.g. portfolio value as at 1 Jan 2014 is RM10,000
During 2014 u total/net pumped in RM3,000
At 31 Dec 2014 your portfolio value is RM15,000
Profit during year 2014 is thus RM2,000

ROI = RM2,000 / (RM10,000 + RM3,000/2) x 100% = 17.4%
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boelh bagi excel?
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 29 2014, 10:05 PM)
boelh bagi excel?
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Apa Excel...I already laid the formula bare there for u doh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 29 2014, 10:01 PM)
This is the most scientific/accurate way of calculating nod.gif

My method is the more simplistic one. icon_rolleyes.gif
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where got 'scientific' tongue.gif
got calculator, use calculator... got pc, use spreadsheet...

explained simple & quick estimate also no point, if people still ask 'formula' laugh.gif

yeah, easy & quick to estimate by roughly assuming all the new investments are at mid year and thus divide by 2... still get the 17.4% as checked out by XIRR formula.

31/12/2013 (10,000)
1/7/2014 (3,000)
31/12/2014 15,000 17.48%


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