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This post has been edited by hello-hello92: Dec 24 2014, 12:50 PM

hehe see my siggy

http://dakpink.blogspot.com/2014/12/riadah...k-semenyih.html

Compare first 3 picture take capture Sam gor (21 Dec 2014), We reserved for staff or associate also no fully pick up. Maybe staff and associate also no confident this project.

BBW TMDSad maybe you are right.....

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By Showtime747

@bearbearwong is a very interesting forum member in LYN. His behaviour brought us lots of fun and at the same time, he showed us many things which we should avoid. There are many mistakes he made, and below are 6 mistakes made by bearbear which I think home buyers and investors alike can "learn" from him and avoid them in their future purchases :

Mistake #1 Confused objective
bearbear's intention to buy a property is for own stay. For own stay, the objective is totally different from investment. For own stay, it is 1 of the 4 daily needs (clothing, food, dwelling and transport). Just like clothing, food and transport, we buy a house when we need it (like marriage). We should not delay because it is our need. We can always choose a budget that suits us. But bearbear wanted designer cloth and BMW instead of something more affordable. He wanted those mid-high end housing >RM600k instead of those RM300k+ which is his actual affordable budget.

Moreover, for own stay, the future rise and fall of market price does not affect him. He still have to own the house if the market price increase by 100%. He can't sell it for profit otherwise he has no roof over his head. Likewise, if the market falls by 50%, he will not sell either. A house for own stay is a need, not an investment which could turn into profit or loss due to price movement


Mistake #2 Buying a property is a 1 time decision
bearbear thought that buying a house is a 1 time decision (like marriage). But in fact, almost everyone have the opportunity to upgrade their house in the future. Therefore, we should buy a property based on our own financial ability at that time. We should not think that we will be stuck with a property for whole life. We can always sell it and upgrade to a better property in the future. Thinking buying a property and will stay in it for the rest of you life will make your purchase decision very difficult


Mistake #3 Timing the market
Nobody knows the timing of market ups and downs. It applies to any market including stock and property. So, it is foolish to time the market for best price. Instead, the best time to buy a property is when you are financially ready and comfortable. Timing the market is like gambling. If you time the market wrongly, the loss is substantial. Just like the DDDs for the last 5-6 years, they have missed the great opportunity of riding the super bull run which has never been seen in malaysia property market history

Over long term, in malaysia property market history, market price will increase between 5%-10% pa on long term average. So, in 20 years time and beyond, the property will appreciate at least 3 times. Of course, there are ups and downs during the 20 years period, but if a person holds a long term view, the price is on an upward linear trend as history has shown us


Mistake #4 want to wear too big a hat
bearbear's salary is only RM4k gross. His saving is only RM40k. But he aspire to buy property in the region of RM600k-RM700k. He has over-stretched his budget. The result would be catastrophic. A property buyer should not over-stretch their financial ability, unless he has backup from PAMA or spouse. With RM4k salary, bearbear should only be looking at property in the region of RM300k-RM400k. However, he even take into account his 3 credit card limit of RM50k in choosing his target property. Using credit card as part of the deposit is plainly a foolish decision

Be truthful to yourself. Weigh your financial ability objectively. Face and social status will be down the drain when repo man knocks on your door.


Mistake #5 getting influenced by his working life
bearbear has a "hazardous" job. His repomen job forces him to meet people who failed financially everyday. When he sees people bankrupt day in day out, he is influenced by them and giving him an impression that many people are facing financial trouble. This could have lead him to believe that most people are not prudent in their financial management and hence, most property buyers are vulnerable to fail. His mindset has become negative and pessimistic. Causing him to read any news and deduce his own findings negatively.

His world becomes doom and gloom and market will crash soon. He cannot see the market objectively anymore. As such, his market outlook causes him to think crash is coming and he should delay his purchase decision.

Property purchase is 1 of our biggest decision. We should be more objective when making such decision. Try to get advice from as many people as possible instead of being influenced by people around you.


Mistake #6 wish the environment to come down to meet his wants instead of working towards achieving his wish
He already has a job. He can work hard to improve his income. If he works towards improving his income by double to RM8k, buying the property of his choice is no more an issue. However, instead of working hard to achieve higher income, he blame the market instead. He whine about the UUU, the flippers, the government etc for causing the price to inflate exponentially until his current salary could not afford.

Instead of working hard, he spend a big proportion of his productive time from 7am - 12 midnight in the forum argue with the UUU and other property buyers. He did not realise he is spending his time unproductively and will not help in his career. He should have use his productive time to work towards how to achieve better career path instead.

We should always bear in mind in this cruel world, nothing will come to you unless you make an effort to achieve it. Ie. there is no free lunch and complaining wouldn't help you get what you wish



I am sure there are more bearbear's mistakes which we can learn. Feel free to add on


not only to bear, also to the lalat in this thread...

lalat are u there? Do u know staff sp setia and associate look like no cofident seh project..

This post has been edited by hello-hello92: Dec 24 2014, 04:40 PM

hoh seh liao SP staff.. but merry christmas to all ok.. Peri Peri

Merry xmas to u and Peri 2014.
Merry xmas to all.

This post has been edited by hello-hello92: Dec 24 2014, 06:50 PM

Not sure why EM thread is closed, perhaps too many lalat...

Since SEH / EM are sister/brother township, just share this here...

This post has been edited by samkps: Dec 26 2014, 10:38 AM


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nowadays lowyat forum full with lalats keep spamming the threads....

Let's summarize the total sales in SEH since launching:

Arroyo Garden - 224 units (sold out), starting from RM 560,990

DSL Phase 1 - 592 units (sold out), starting from RM 408,000

Cluster and SemiD - ~ 400 units (sold out), starting from RM 728,000

Zero lot bangalow (Tralas) - 56 units (~ 48 units sold), starting from RM 1,590,000

DSL Samanea - 60 units (sold out to solely staff and associate), starting from RM 583,000

DSL Saraca - 91 units (80 units sold to public only), starting from RM 673,000

DSL Phase 2 - 190 units (118 units sold), starting from RM 598,000


As conclusion, about 1300 units are sold since launching, excluding the Arroyo Garden.

This post has been edited by samkps: Dec 26 2014, 11:34 AM

LOL ... Boxing Day gift

omg !? Hi samkps , can you share the latest layout for this 598k dsl compare to 408k ? price psf really that huge !?

Chan gor, not 200k increase till so extreme. DSL first phase has 20 x 65, starting from RM 408k..

DSL first phase 20 x 70 starting from RM 455,000, BU 1690 sqf, RM 269 psf.

DSL second phase 20 x 70 starting from RM 598,000, BU 1936 sqf, RM 309 psf, representing only RM 40 psf or 15% price increase.

Just noticed it... OMG

Miao miao gor, too many troll....

Miao2 gor,

Nevermind la, come here and talk abt EM ...

hmm ... that's high on the current market . But i know that's very subjective

This post has been edited by Actchan: Dec 26 2014, 03:19 PM

Yeah, very subjective.

Personally I think any project with 10 - 15% price increase compare to the previous launch which is one year ago is fairly reasonable...

TKJ, some christmas decoration in the EM sale gallery, as shared in their facebook, cutie boh?


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