Could we keep all the posts here for posterity's sake?  I might need a good laugh once in a while.  Much thanks.

My PS2 had a warranty from the retail shop from which I purchased it in Shanghai.  Next time, please consult with me before you take it into a shop for examination.  By taking the PS2 into a shop to pry under the hood, you voided the warranty that I had with the retail shop in Shanghai.  I tested the unit thoroughly before packaging it for you and you insist that I sold you a spoiled product.  Even if I offer you a full refund of RM390, you're leaving me with a PS2 with a voided warranty and problems that mysteriously popped up while the unit was under your ownership.

Do understand that you've thrust me into an uncomfortable situation here.  I no longer have the original shop warranty that I had earlier.  I make a trip to Shanghai at least once a year - had I run into any problems, I could have gotten repairs conducted there free of charge.  However, by voiding the retail warranty, you've stripped me of that privilege.

I could have stuck fast with the no warranty policy as stated in my original thread but instead you pushed for a one month personal warranty.  I was happy to offer this to you, knowing that the PS2 was in perfect working order the day before you took it.  I agreed to the one month personal warranty in best interests of keeping the trade intact.  Had the PS2 been faulty, I would not have offered you such a warranty.  Take that into consideration - I offered you the warranty only because I knew that the PS2 itself was faultless.

We've both wasted time and effort here.  Don't continue to make grossly exaggerated claims of irresponsibility on my part.

I'd like to write a response to post one of this thread as some of the claims made there are not valid.
The PS2 does play DVDs. It's common knowledge that not all DVDs will play in the PS2, as any PS2 owner will attest to. I had success watching a box set of 24 and Final Destination, but a number of other DVDs that I had simply would not play back. Bear in mind that I clearly stated this in my original thread.

I provided you with information to the best of my knowledge. I trusted the owner of the retail shop from which I originally purchased the PS2 and passed on the same information to you. I wrote out the description on my thread with no intention to deceive, nor to 'cheat' you of your money.

A simple letter 'H' embossed on the rear of a controller can't possibly tell you about its authenticity. The people manufacturing AAA-grade controllers could just as easily emboss a letter 'H' to give buyers confidence. I was under full impression that the controller was original and unless you can prove otherwise, I stand by my case.

I offered to bank in the RM50 for you at the next possible opportunity. I would have gotten your money for you by this weekend but instead you decided it was in your own best interests to drive up to my home and collect your RM50.

The power brick that is supplied with the Sony Playstation 2 is compatible with both 110V and 240V. You have not burned out anything. The PS2 itself runs off of DC, not AC. Input voltage is not an issue. Furthermore, I have tested the PS2 with both voltages. I played on it while in China using 240V and used it with 240V again while at my home.

I've offered a full refund of your RM390. That's my policy. I made no promises to give you more money. I already posted that some four times inside this thread and you made no attempt to counter my point. The argument is lost on your side and continuously calling attention to it is a vain cause. Here it is again:
Can you disagree with that?

well yetieater, u got some explaining to do on "barely use" the console

OT:
and having know later that the console aint genuine, do buyer have the rights to claim a refund coz its not ori as stated?

Yes they do. The buyer can claim on grounds on misrepresentation.

BARELY USED is a subjective term and watching some DVDs doesn't make it heavy usage either. do consider why he used BARELY ie his activity vs duration of ownership.

what's barely to one may not be barely to another. next time remember to query the seller in detail and ask about their definition of the words / terms they used.

If you are familiar with PS consoles, watching DVD on Ps is 10x usage of normal game playing.
Can ask DjinN about it too.

I have stated clearly now. I send for repair cos someone is charging me for the parts only. So i hope it will be cheaper. If it's within my cost, ill pay for it. If it's not then seller refund.
If you don't I'll hand this thing to the station.

Did i say the shop open up the machine? Why are you so scared right now? The console has never been open up when i send it to the shop. the just inspect the lens.

...... do you know that you need a trnasformer for a 110v machine to run 240v supply? If not the machine will overheats and result to damaged lens?

if u send for repair this time, won't the console be opened out this time?

Best solution i can think off which i mentioned to yetieater in a PM is:

A 3rd party from Lowyat goes with both yetieater n chastise to his own game console shop which he trust to verify the extent of the damage to PS2.

she did mention that she will send it to shop and find out the repair cost first.

if repair - no need to refund.
if too costly to repair - she will ask for refund.



btw how does one knows if a PS2 is opened?

if u send for repair this time, won't the console be opened out this time?

the last time, u said
somemore, if u so fussy about the console, why not buy a new one and save a lot of your time and trouble. secondhand thing always come with the risk of not being perfect. if you think at it, the seller already want to sell that thing after two months use.

which is why i said what i said - cos we don't know exactly how much he watched other than base on what he stated, which could still be lesser than someone that's full time gaming away when it comes to total usage.

and which is also why i said "barely used" being a subjective term, therefore one must make sure what the seller meant and understand their definition of it before committing to a deal / agreement (ok this part is meant for everybody. sometimes it's the subjective words that brings misunderstanding.)

And No. do you guys actualy KNOW how to calculate?
He gives me RM390 refund Im absorbing RM75 for the new controller..
Fine. that's not the issue here.