There's a sticker on the console. If you opened it the sticker will be broken and warranty void.
You guys want proof that the console has been never opened before?
Stop making assumptions when you guys dont know anything ok?
I have stated that the console has NEVER been open before.
It's PS2 slim. you can check the lens by opening the disc cover.

ok - now where did that RM 50 he refunded you go?

ok - now where did that RM 50 he refunded you go?

ok, so you stated clear that the console not yet opened and the proof is the sticker still intact, am i right? . and the repair shop tell you is the lens problem. ok so what you need to do is just ASK the price of replacement lens , don't need to do any inspection at all. if the repair cost not much , you will absord it. have you ask the workmanship as well? anyway since you insist you want to let it check by shop. just becareful don't be con by the shop as well. normally the shop will say very cheap this and that and soon you will only found out theres some hidden charges as well like workmanship or might other parts need to be replace besides lens. This is totally more than your RM 75 budget.

rm 75 seems really cheap for just changing a lens? am i doubt it is original as well. anyway like you said "So when it's opened it's MY problem." Yeti , it seems like you don't need to refund after all . Just hope she open up the console.

And no. Their charging me for the parts. So it will be cheaper.
And mind you. I only need to ask for the parts charges. So i dont need to open up the console.. sorry!
So, if the part is expensive Ill get my refund if otherwise ill fix it.
Is that clear to you now?   

Oh yeah. and thank you for following the thread.

ok - now where did that RM 50 he refunded you go?

like i said, i am very clear with what you said. you just need to ask, no need to open up the console at all. so you know the technition very well. no workmanship charges? i see. thats good. after open the console, if they tell you , thats some other thing need to change besides lens, will you be surprise and argue back that the shop just tell you that they said only lens problem and just change lens only. by looking from outside you can only GUESS its lens problem.  after you open the console, then only you will figure out what real problem is. if your estimation cost is below rm 75, i would advise you don't risk it by open the console. by the way , just want to ask, why he must refund rm 400 not rm 390 or rm420?

i got it. ok have a nice weekend.

Same to you and thanks for following the thread. 

print screen of da PMs of him promising u things which he didnt do or is denying. show us more proof for us to understand this situation clearer.

well, like i say before this in another thread, just admit your mistake and apology for causing any misunderstanding.  well some times a word sorry can save a lot of time and solve many problems. take the total refund that he offered and give back the set to him in one piece. so everything back into square one. don't bother anymore about the lost for fuel and time. i think both make no profit here so both have to absord some lost as well.

well, like i say before this in another thread, just admit your mistake and apology for causing any misunderstanding.  well some times a word sorry can save a lot of time and solve many problems. take the total refund that he offered and give back the set to him in one piece. so everything back into square one. don't bother anymore about the lost for fuel and time. i think both make no profit here so both have to absord some lost as well.

If i can fix it Ill do it.
If can't then ill get my refund. Okay?
This way is good for both parties now.
What's my mistake now? For asking the seller to refund??
Did i say i care about those things now?
Ive explained so many times about the solution now.
Pls don't ask me to repeat again ok?

Originally, she paid RM440, subsequently she got a refund of RM50 which meant that she paid a total of RM390... After that, she proceeded to purchase a new controller worth RM75.. So if she gets a refund, she'll get back RM390.. Which finally leads to her absorbing RM75.. Get what i mean?

just to let u know that the seller here is not totally a con man like u said. there's more worst guy that you haven't met. if you can get a total refund like he promised, better get it fast. forget all the lost on travel and time. argueing somemore will only make it worst and you not only make yourself look unfriendly but gets another enemy as well. i heard u said in toyota thread that you accusing him not making a refund to you. but i don;t think it's true. it just you piss him off at the moment so what you expect in return. talk nicely and work it out as soon as possible. no point dragging this .

We have been corresponded which each other for qutie sometime and it was assured that the console is working fine and everything is original.

So I went to his place to collect it. When I checked, i noticed that it's 2 pin flat adapter that doesnt fit our electricity supply and have to get a new adaptor for that. He didn't tell me earlier about it and i asked for RM10 dedcution for that. Fine.

I asked him when i was checking the console and acc. if all the acc. is original and working. He said it is and everything is working very well as he seldom use it. I trust him and left because it was quite late at that time. He said he will give 1month warranty on that.

I have a PS2 myself so i'm quite familiar on how it works. When i reached home i tested it. I noticed that the console doesn't play PS1 and DVDs as claimed.(and i re-confirm with him before i bought it). And the memory card is fake (i have one ori one to compare). And I don't know if the controller's ori cos it doesnt have any "H" sign at the back. The worst part is, one of the controller is faulty (the L2 &R2 button doesnt work, and it have weird sound when u shake it, as if someone parts are broken)
The day after that, I called him about this matter. He said will pay me RM50 for a new ori controller. I agreed cos it has been quite a hassle for me looking for a console for my cousin. I asked him if he can meet me at Great eastern mall and he said no cos he will have to pay for the cab fees and then ended up more to the cost. What about my petrol?? Okay, it's either i waste my petrol and get the RM50 or i get nothing. So fine, I went to his place to get the RM50 for the controller and I went to get a new one which costed me RM75.

I thought the console would have no problem and I didn't play it till a few days ago. And i noticed the console will hang halfway when playing games and some can't even load.(i tested it with my own console, it works perfectly well). I sent to a shop yesterday, the boss told me that it's either the lens problem or the modchip. And the console runs on 110v but our supply is 240v so it might burned the thing.

And yesterday I sent a PM to him regarding this matter politely on how we can deal with this and whether i can get refund for this and some transportation fees for this problem. And he replied in a harsh way and accused me for lowering down his cost.
I think I have paid more cost than he does. For my petrol, time, and the controller.
I trusted him because I thought he was honest with me abou this. but ended up.... he wasn't and gave me wrong info about the console. (2 Original controllers and Ori memory card) my *ss!! He told me that he will share the lossesl when i'm gonna do full refund when i told him about the controller in a phone conversation. And now, when I'm asking for it... he said he's not gonna do it. He tricked me driving to his place because he wanna save $$ on cabs and now when I' asking for full refund he doesnt wanna compensate the losses involved.. SUch an irresponsible seller.

Hope someone here can judge this matter.
Thanks!

Yeah. it still cost you money but you shouldn't sell it off as original and lied to customer about it.
Even the controller doesnt have "h" on it. I supposed that's fake as well?
Ive sent it to a shop at sg wang to test it. and it has lens problem cos it will hang while playing other games. and as i said i didnot experience this when i tested it with my other console.
You are being dishonest in this.

I am being in no way dishonest.  As stated in post two, I played with the PS2 a day before you picked it up from my home.  It had no disk read problems and I experienced no lockups.  I reported information in my thread based on what I knew.  I believe DjiNn has a write-up on how to pick apart an Original controller from an AAA grade one.

Well, Ive sent your whole set of console to a shop. That was the outcome.
Yeah yeah yeah...whatever you say. You have lied about the originality of your console, you can further protect yourself with more lies.

Im not happy with the irresponssible attitude and your harsh language when replying my PM. If you really wanna make this issue bigger. I don't mind. I've lost alot of time, money, effort in this. If you wanna make it bigger. No problem with me!

which PM do i need to post here?
About him refunding?
He did not reply the PMs i sent regarding this. So how?