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post Nov 18 2015, 12:50 PM

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Mine doesn't screech, but it produces a loud low frequency noise + vibration when it's cold and about to stop. Totally silent with no vibration when it's warmed up.
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post Nov 18 2015, 06:40 PM

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My right absorber mounting mati liao. No wonder these days the kok sound from the pedal area is appearing through the steering as well. I'm planning to change the front springs to something stiffer since the absorbers will have to be taken out.

I recall someone in the Persona thread saying that he used standard Satria Neo CPS springs which are stiffer and compatible with the Persona. Does anyone know anything about this? hmm.gif

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post Nov 18 2015, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Nov 18 2015, 07:13 PM)
when your kok sound come out? my car sometimes got kok sounds when i turn my steering a lot and car moving, example like when parking. not sure if it's the driveshaft hmm.gif
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Over bumps, when driving up/down car park ramps with "arrows". Previously the kok sound would appear over sudden bumps or when turning, but now even on a straight line the sound is there along with the vibration.
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post Nov 19 2015, 11:46 AM

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Anyone changed to Evo 6 brake master pump for their Persona? Based on the photos on mudah it looks like it can fit but the strut bar will have to be removed everytime to add brake fluid and etc. hmm.gif
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post Nov 19 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 19 2015, 11:48 AM)
only heard can replace evo brake servo instead of master pump..  hmm.gif
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i thought pump is the black thing behind the metal + brake fluid container which is the servo? hmm.gif

Did you change to evo 6 brake servo? I'm afraid that it might be too strong.

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post Nov 19 2015, 12:07 PM

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Nevermind I got it wrong. Brake servo + master cylinder
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post Nov 19 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Nov 19 2015, 12:34 PM)
will kacau the ABS if ur Persona had ABS?
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Not sure..
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post Nov 19 2015, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 19 2015, 02:48 PM)
nope, mine is H-Line so the servo is better and braking power is ok for me.. icon_rolleyes.gif

but if u dont mind then better dont change it unless it affects ur driving pleasure  nod.gif
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Mine is B-Line Persona, so have to change cause braking power is quite bad. blush.gif It's even leaking now.

QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Nov 19 2015, 04:37 PM)
Im using evo 5 brake servo. Plug and play without any mod.
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Your ABS still working? hmm.gif Evo 5 braking power very good? I will probably have to re-learn my braking pattern since I'm used to pressing the pedal deep for stopping fast sweat.gif.

QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 19 2015, 05:56 PM)
heard from my mechanic friend, only H-line model with 4  disc brakes have it, no sound when braking  flex.gif
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I see an offer of RM600 for the Persona H-Line disc braking system (arms and all), but I'm budgeting for brake servo, shock absorbers and a new head unit right now sweat.gif. I might go for the rear disc system if audio system upgrade doesn't work out, but then I want to include new disc rotors, pads, and wheel bearings as well so it might not be feasible. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Nov 19 2015, 06:44 PM)
Yes, abs ebd still functioning.

Better than stock.
Double layer brake servo sure better than single layer.
My stock brake servo koyak, need to replace, so I straight upgrade to double layer.

Mine also high line
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I see. I wish mine is high-line in the first place so I don't have to deal with the stupid rear drum brakes. grumble.gif. Also won't need to deal with the silly rear seats and their ridiculous headrest.

Looks like the RM600 offer for the Persona rear arms + complete brake system and installation is gone sad.gif. The rest on Mudah look quite rusty and old, and are quite similarly priced. Does anyone have any recommendations for good half cut shops around Selangor? I think I'll spend some time sourcing for the rear disc brake parts myself to save more.
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post Nov 20 2015, 07:00 PM

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Currently eyeing the Sapura Pro Ride Sport Absorber + Pro Ride Sport Spring / R3 spring set right now. Does anyone have any experience with this particular set-up?

QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ Nov 19 2015, 11:17 PM)
my friend is using perdana rear disc brake set.
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How much did it cost him?
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post Nov 20 2015, 10:25 PM

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I used some Insulflex on my boot mainly for aesthetic purposes. Doesn't do any difference to how to boot sounds when it closes. I didn't put a big layer over the boot, just cut and stuffed it between the gaps of the boot.
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post Nov 21 2015, 05:13 PM

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Bought a full set of Sapura Pro Ride Sport Absorbers + Springs, got the Evo 6 brake servo as well as new Proton absorber mountings. Can't get them installed today though cause Zordaq is fully booked. sad.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 07:28 PM

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Changed to the Sapura Pro Ride shock absorbers today.

Bad news so far: the front left is higher than the right by almost 1 finger. The car is also much lower at the front than expected, with about ~2 finger and <1 finger gap for the front left and right respectively. doh.gif No proper measurement cause I didn't bother looking for a tool to measure.

Good news: The ride is still pretty damn comfortable. Cornering is... slightly better now. The set is definitely not very stiff compared to the OEM shocks and springs. I don't know what percentage to give for the improvement, but the car stays flat enough to my liking during corners for now. If my memory serves me right, it's kinda Suprima-like now in terms of cornering stiffness.

Still waiting for the day to get the Evo 6 brake servo installed. I don't really feel that excited anymore about it though cause the people at the workshop have been talking about how some tried to use Evo 6 on their cars and after installation and all, it doesn't work. "The brake cannot be pressed", or so they say. sad.gif

My feelings so far: Half regretting the purchase now as going for IMP "Comfort" Absorbers + my original springs may have been a better combination. The seller and Zordaq told me to give it a few days first to see if the car eventually goes to the same height for the front. I'm hoping it does cause I'm not really interested in spending my time waiting for the shocks / springs to be replaced.

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post Nov 24 2015, 10:07 AM

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I'll take a proper measurement when I have time. 😁😁😁😁
QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:03 AM)
yesterday change timing belt at zordaq, after change this morning have weird sounds (kinda like metal and belt rubbing sounds) coming out from the timing belt area..is it normal or should I wait until the sounds is gone?
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Were you there around 1pm?
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post Nov 24 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:09 AM)
I think I left around that time  sweat.gif I came 10am to change timing belt there, around 3 hours wait  doh.gif
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I see. Yeah they don't really have enough people. I would suggest that you call Zaki to verify it the noise is a problem or not. I know mine didn't have any weird noise at all after the change. It was even done by a foreman that is the least experienced among them.

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post Nov 24 2015, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Nov 24 2015, 11:45 AM)
Previously I complained about screeching or squeling sound when braking at low speed just after changing my new brake pads. I google searched and found about brake bed in or conditioning method. I did this , speed up to 100kmh, press on brake pedal fully , but not until the ABS is activated, slow the car down until u get 20kmh speed, don't stop completely, speed up again until 100kmh. Repeat this 8-10 times. But make sure to do it on an empty stretch without cars. It does significantly reduced the braking squeal and high pitch screeching sound.
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hmm.gif Less sound even when cold?
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post Nov 24 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Nov 24 2015, 01:06 PM)
Yes yes. Before this quite loud. Now it become like more dull. Less sound. After few minutes driving no screeching at all.

Your persona has screeching sound too?
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Nope. Mine has a low frequency noise and vibration when cold. The foreman of zordaq removed my brake insulation layer yesterday and now it sounds less solid. Kinda regret asking them to open the brakes cause I just wanted then to re adjust the insulation which wasn't seated properly.
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post Nov 24 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Nov 24 2015, 02:12 PM)
Low frequency sound when reversing and braking at low speed? 

Actually where is the insulation layer located? I'm not sure mine has it or not.
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Between the pad and the caliper. Mine is the Bendix MKT.
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post Nov 24 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 24 2015, 04:01 PM)
contacted zaki from zordaq about my timing belt sound problem, ask me to go back to verify without any charges.  rclxms.gif
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biggrin.gif. Supposed to ma, since they are the one who installed the kit for you.
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post Nov 25 2015, 05:08 PM

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Evo 6 servo on the left versus original Plotong servo for B Line.Attached Image

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