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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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Madgeniusfigo
post Oct 6 2015, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(LNYC @ Oct 6 2015, 01:08 AM)
Hi all sifus,

My bf has a house loan with balance of 300k, the interest rate is at BLR-1.95 ( so is 4.9?).
we are thinking to request the interest rate to be reduce since the economy is not that good. May i know what are the chances we can get a lower rate? Can any sifu enlighten us on this?..it is a flexi package, left around 25 years.

Thanks in advance.
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As I have explained from previous post.

Actually, if your are a good paymaster. You can go to the branch and ask for rate revision, they will revised your loan rate to current rate based on loan amount.

So no hastle to refinance etc etc.

Just try go to a branch and ask whether you are qualify for loan revision. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2015, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Oct 6 2015, 01:18 AM)
Yes you may write in letter to request reduce interest, but normally the rate they reduce will just slightly lower than previous rate.
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NO need to write letter, just bring yourself to the branch and ask for it.
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post Oct 6 2015, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Oct 5 2015, 06:54 PM)
actually is a she, she planning get a unit ~ rm400 - 450K unit with joint name with her BF. She have no Credit card, no PTPTN loan, no commitment at all. In her case, she got side income as teaching tuition classed. Her bf just bought a unit in KL for RM500k with the salary of 7k(no commitment on car loan).
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With her salary, impossible to purchase RM400-Rm450k PROPERTY.

Try joint name with bf.
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post Oct 6 2015, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Oct 6 2015, 10:04 AM)


seriously did u read it?
i have no problem on loan approval, i just dont want to sacrifice my current living standard
i am just wondering after everything settled, can i still pump in lump sump to lower down the installment hmm.gif
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I am sorry about that, misunderstood. sad.gif sad.gif

example:
When you purchase Rm500,000/4.5%/35years
Your installment RM 2366.28
Part of the cash Rm2000 pays I% , part of it RM355.28 to CAPITAL.


When you pay lump sum RM100,000 into the capital account.
Your installment will still be RM2366.28
But, more of it will be paying towards CAPITAL.
and you can settle off your loan in 12 years earlier time.

TO be succinct, your installment wouldn't change, mortgage loan can settled earlier.

In order for the installment change is when the interest rate reduce.
1) When Base rate reduce
2) When you refinance for lower interest rate.

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QUOTE(diversity @ Oct 6 2015, 10:08 AM)
2014 received one month, was entitled for three months but pro-rated due to joined late. 2015 getting three months as well, and also a 5~10% increment. in January 2016.

So really impossible to get ah?  sad.gif no chance at all?

My colleague salary 2.7k but managed to obtain a 500k housing loan, new project under construction. 100% margin financing somemore. He told me his dad become guarantor and very friend friend with developer/banker. Why ah  cry.gif
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Not with your current salary.

Your friend has father as guarantor, that's why he could get it.

Solution
1) Joint name
2) Guarantor
3) Lower property purchase price
4) Increase your salary
5) JV with friend.
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post Oct 6 2015, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(LNYC @ Oct 6 2015, 10:18 AM)
🙆 thank you for your advice.
The branch manager my bf approached before said the loan at is not many,and the bank will hardly consider the reduction due to the low profit margin.
Guess need to try and ask again.
Tqvm, have a nice day.
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No problem
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post Oct 6 2015, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Oct 6 2015, 11:43 AM)
Yup, thats the plan and her BF just bought a subsale house over 500k with the salary of 6 to 7k per month. If to joint name, how high is the possibility for them to get the loan at the moment ?
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If joint name with boyfriend, there's still possibility.

Moreover, they don't have any debt but the new RM500K property.
To purchase Rm400-Rm450k property DSR for both of them joint is quite high around 78%.
I am afraid they their Margin of finance will be slashed badly, worst come worst loan rejection.
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QUOTE(diversity @ Oct 6 2015, 11:57 AM)
And boss,

PTPTN will affect housing loan calculation ah? I remember I asked a banker before, and he told me it will appear in the system, but won't affect the DSR calculation wor.

And how come the DSR over 100%  sweat.gif

I used a calculator below

Not

1.8k/2.7k net = 68%?

tq
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It will affect your DSR. It will consider a term loan in your ccris.
Which bankers bank? I might need to find him if ever my clients ccris burst due to ptptn.

Hmmm, I posted new analysis. Previously, could be clicking something wrong.
Now it is alright.

DSR 69%

But only RHB will be able to financed this loan amount.

Other bank is within RM300K BELOW.
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QUOTE(y2_principle @ Oct 6 2015, 01:16 PM)
Thats truly informative indeed.

However, pardon my ignorance, my query remains that, whether the aforesaid criteria are referring to one borrower, or both borrower jointly, i.e.: if both of us could meet the DSR ratio of lesser than 50%, we will be qualify for a 90% financing margin despite the fact that if stand alone, the DSR will be more than 90%.

Thanks.
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1) It doesn't mean DSR lesser than 50% only will you receive 90% MOF. DSR is one of the many factors. Due to difference bank, different underwriter moresoever. But 50% DSR is good indicator for loan to approve.

2)If more than 90%, definitely will be rejected. Try think from banks point of view. If you have Rm4000 income, your DSR 90%, RM4000X90%= RM360. After paying for all your debt and commitment, you will have RM360 to survive with. That's completely unacceptable and illogic. So bank will decline as you will have the highest chances to default.

3) When DSR 50%, RM6000 income joint. Rm3000 Is enough both to survive for 1 month.

Usually we will think from our side, by try think from bank point of view and we will realize why we being rejected.

I hope I make things clear.
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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Oct 6 2015, 03:18 PM)
thx to dear sifus who explain the BR system to me,

oso got some qestn on MRTA VS MLTA,

i done some research, pls correct me if i'm wrong

MRTA
1) value drop accordingly (Throughout the loan tenure, but the protection covered will be less than loan outstanding amount when BR interest rate hike up)
2) cannot be transfer Yes
3) terminate if refinance Yes
4) cheaper Yes
5) can be included as part of the loan Yes, but it will be compounded and charged interest along with the loan



MLTA / MLA
1) difference btwn MLTA and MLA , MLTA offered by banker, MLA can get quotation from external insurance company ? Yes
2) both got value and do not depreciate  Yes, if you include time value of money, it does depreciate
3) more expensive than MRTA Yes

however i m not sure about the following,

4) wat happen after we fully paid up the property ? can we withdraw the premium paid or we can withdraw the sum insured ? is it similar to those insurance saving plan etc ? For MRTA No. For the rest yes but you won't withdraw sum assured, you will only receive cash value amount depending on which year you paid up your property. Sum insured will be paid when TPD or Death.

5) wat happen if i choose to refinance or sell off the property ? can i transfer the policy to other property ? any penalty charge or tranfer fee applicable ? MLA capable to do so, if the loan amount is different, will need to top up.

6) in term of law, is there any min sum we need to cover our property ? like how many percentage of the property price ? In terms of law, No. Some MLTA/MLA products has a minimum coverage. 

7) How the MLTA / MLA premium being calculate ? purely based on the sum insured or is there any rules of thumb , like how many RM = RM1k coverage ? for me to estimate the monthly premium

Premium is around 0.32% of total sum assured. Easiest calculation. Bear in mind, MLA products comes in different form, you need to ask your agent to clarify which product it is.


8) If i opt for MLA instead of MRTA or MLTA from banker, how is the process ? i should get the loan first or i should go direct consult with the external insurer ? what is the correct procedure ?

MLA, you can get it after loan approved, no sweat

9) would the monthly premium be included in my DSR ? as it is not cheap and may eat into my 10% salary or even higher, would it affect my loan ?

If you buy the protection without financing into your loan, it won't affect your DSR

thanks for any sifu can help on the above
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QUOTE(sherxez @ Oct 6 2015, 02:30 PM)
Hi all sifu, I just sign my SPA on 13 July 2015 with Maybank. Normally how long will it take for the disbursement from bank to developer?
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The disbursement is progressively, stage by stage according to schedule of payment.
full disbursement will take around 2-4 Years.
Depend on the speed.
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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Oct 6 2015, 03:45 PM)
The BF still on house loan of her's own. quite high as in getting a 90% loan for new property ?
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Really need to see the pay slips of both only I could conform you.
Based on the details you provided, the chances is quite low.
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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Oct 6 2015, 04:51 PM)
rclxms.gif bro thx for reply

For example, if i wanted to cover full loan amount of 640k, so the premium will be 3.2% x 640k = RM20,480. Which i can pay in full at the beginning or i can pay in monthly premium to the external insurer. Is that correct ?

if i choose MLA, can i opt for it to be included inside my loan financing ? Or i must choose MLTA ?

final "loan repayment + MLTA / MLA" cannot be over my monthly DSR, is tat correct ?
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1)Ops, typo. should be 0.32%, premium for RM640k = RM2048 Yearly (ESTIMATION)

You can opt for monthly or yearly payment.

This is based on the lowest product offering price, and age 30.

The result will changed according to age,occupation, smoker, weight, etc...

Above figure just a forecast.


2) Some bank allows you to do include MLA, example OCBC. They allow you to add in the premium for 6 years into the loan amount, given 5% deviation ceiling from the loan amount. RM640,000 max can finance RM32,000 premium.

3) For MLTA most of the banks will allow you to finance into the loan, because MLTA is their product.

4) If mlta or mla financed into the loan. the loan will increase right? hence the installment will increase as well. It will affect your DSR (given that it is financed into the loan)


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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Oct 6 2015, 05:06 PM)
Salary Pay Slip? BF = 7k monthly (with EPF),  GF RM 600 (with EPF) + income from tuition Fee RM 1600 (no epf)

Both no credit card delay payment
Both no car loan
BF has house loan of rm2200 monthly under his name
BF PTPTN not clear yet (got delay payment i guess)
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Some banks wouldn't care whether you have EPF or not, some bank does.
IF your tuition fees income can tally with bank statement, yes, it is consider as income for that particular bank.


In order to purchase the RM450K property

1) Must joint name
2) PTPTN problem, need to check ccris to confirm. Sometimes the system didn't update your ptptn. (happens to few of my clients, which they are lucky)

5 banks have no issues, for now.

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Oct 6 2015, 05:33 PM)
rclxms.gif thx clear all my doubts , just tat MLA is really exp  rclxub.gif
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No problem

You pay for what you get.

The more you pay the more comprehensive it will be.

If you are really short of cash, go for MRTA, no choice.

If you have extra spendable cash, go for MLTA/MLA, it provides a more comprehensive protection with cash value.
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QUOTE(sherxez @ Oct 6 2015, 05:38 PM)
Hi Madgeniusfigo. Actually I'm buying completed house from IJM. Thus, I can only receive my key when Maybank make the full disbursement.

For my case, normally how long will the bank need to make the payment? My house is freehold at seremban 2.

Regards,
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Oh, completed properties.

The standard time for full disbursement on freehold property with strata title
Completion period is 3 months from the date of the agreement and an automatic extension of 1 month.
-around 3-4 months

If your property is freehold with master title
Completion period is 3 months from the date of developer's confirmation or from the date of the S&P, whichever is later.
-Approximately 4months
(Longer as consent is needed from developer)
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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Oct 6 2015, 05:29 PM)
Thank you so much for your reply.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Hope that it helps. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(y2_principle @ Oct 6 2015, 05:58 PM)
Thanks for your feedback.

Whats the info I need to furnish to you in order for you to gauge whether we will be qualified for 90% financing margin.
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To be accurate, details as follow:

1. Income (borrower)
- net salary
-OT
-Allowance
-Bonus

2. Supporting income (borrower)
-Tenancy agreement
-ASB ( 2 years total bonus)
-Shares
Fixed deposit

3. Debt / commitment (borrower)
-Hire purchase loan (Borrowed amount)*
-Housing loan (credit limit)
-Personal loan (Credit limit)
-PTPTN (credit limit)
-Credit card (Outstanding)
-ASB loan ( credit limit)
- Overdraft ( Credit limit)

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QUOTE(sherxez @ Oct 6 2015, 06:00 PM)
Thanks bro for your reply! appreciate it  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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That's the standard gauge.

Really depends on lawyer speed and efficiency.

Hiring a good loan/S&P lawyer is important. There's few cases where lawyer made mistake and delayed the whole process, rare but does happen.

Make sure you consult the right lawyer.
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QUOTE(diversity @ Oct 6 2015, 10:02 PM)
Hi bro once again thanks for all the valuable information,

So I guess PTPTN really does impact housing loan calculation ah  sad.gif
How come in the previous calculation, the PTPTN amount is 188.88 ah? is it a fixed calculation or depending on loan amount
And for the stamp duty / legal fees calculation. Is it the legal fees are included of disbursements / first home buyer industrial practice discount & stamp duty 50% discount for first home buyers? Just wondering how you got the figures.

Thanks for the clarification, dude. At least happy to know got one shot at a bank in my dream house  notworthy.gif . DO you think I should at try my luck? as now market is quite stagnant and people urging BNM to be more lenient to first home buyers, as alot of supply in subsale.
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Yes it does, hope you are the lucky one whose record didnt update.
Ptptn is based on the total credit borrowed, some bank based on outstanding.
for legal fees and stampduty, there is tier calculation according to total loan amount, snp price.
yes 50% discount

Yes, rhb still not that tight in their selection. Just try.

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