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post Sep 29 2015, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Sep 28 2015, 06:41 PM)
Just apply my loan..

HLB = Request for guarantor or another joint applicant due to YOUNG AGE..

RHB = Slash margin to 80% due to young age..

I'm 24 and my waifu is 25.. as we plan to buy undercon.. when it complete that time our age is already 28-29..

but it really frustrating that loan cant approve due to young age.. as if now dont buy..later on will be more hard to buy..

now waiting other bank outcome

btw our dsr is within the safe point and no late payment.. only one car loan
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Lots of variable eh

1) Your profession
2) Your Income
3) Debt commitment
4) DSR
5) Ccris debt payment shown
6) current place stayed status
7) Your company
8) Age
9) family/kids...
10) etc etc

Different banks has its own credit scoring, everything matters to them, every details you fill in the form add to your scoring. It's not just due to young age.
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post Sep 29 2015, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Sep 29 2015, 12:51 PM)
Current loan oustanding : RM237,000
Current interest rate : 4.85%
Current monthly installment : RM1180
Current market evaluation price for house : RM380,000

should i refinance due to lower interest rate now 4.4% ~ 4.6%
do not want to take cash, just want to lower monthly commitment
is it possible through refinancing?

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May I know how many years you have financed this loan?

and

After refinance how long loan tenure you want to finance?

So that I can calculate if is this worth your time to refinance.
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post Sep 30 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(y2_principle @ Sep 30 2015, 12:38 PM)
Thank you for your insightful response.

As for criterion b), in the event that the DSR for myself stands at 78%, but if jointly it stands at around 40%, will they consider the DSR for myself or jointly?

Thanks.
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for DSR 78%, only 1-2 banks will accept such high DSR.

40% will be accepted in general by all the banks.
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post Oct 1 2015, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Oct 1 2015, 06:40 PM)
Hello guys,

Recently I have some cash, was told not to put in FD though FD promo interest rate is 4.2% per year. Guess the right decision now is dump the cash into my house loan principal right?

What's the effective house loan interest rate? I only know mine is BLR minus 2.4%

thanks guys
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There isn't any right or wrong whether to invest in FD

If you are risk averse, putting your cash in FD calms your mind, investing in shares or high risk assets will give you nightmare every night, invest money in FD will be wise decision. Moreover, Bank giving 4.2% interest that's good rate for conservative investor.

Now the bank rate for property 500k above is 4.4-4.45%, dumping your cash into capital account saved 4.4% in casual saying, but effective rate will be much lesser than 4.4%.
In actual fact, paying higher % installment/month vs putting high lump sum of cash in capital account will yield higher internal rate of return. Time value of money factor.

But still, above is ways for conservative investor to park their money.

If you have higher appetite, the cash that you have try invest it into med risk investment that yield at least 6%.
or
Creative accounting with that lump sum of cash and purchase valued property. As property gets rental and capital appreciation. Anytime is a good time for property investing given that you have the holding period and you found good underpriced valued property.

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BLR not applicable to bank rate, now it is base rate and the effective rate as I mentioned above.

RM500K above loan will get you effective rate of 4.4-4.5% interest.
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post Oct 2 2015, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Oct 1 2015, 08:21 PM)
THank you very much for the detail reply and information. appreciate it.
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Just my 5 cent. tongue.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Dallen @ Oct 3 2015, 01:33 AM)
Hi. I am 23 and i also joint name with my gf which is also 23 to buy undercon house for own stay, we loan 600k, and dsr hit about 62%.
We have all 4 out of 5 banks approved! So i don't think young age should be a factor? It is but probably not the main one.

Yes,as I had explained above, there's myriad of possibilitites and factors.

Anyway any sifu here can tell me which bank should i decide?
Public bank semi flexi 4.4% but we reject cause withdrawal rm50 which we cant accept. So left with 3 banks.

RHB- full flexi with 4.4% interest, no setup/withdrawal fee, unable to do online transactions, no withdrawal upon construction. With mlta

CIMB- smart flexi with 4.45%, rm10 per withdrawal but can withdraw anytime even construction timing. With mrta

MAYBANK- semi flexi with 4.4%, rm25 withdrawal fee, withdrawal only after 80% construction onwards. With minimum mrta

Still dilemma which to choose. Personally prefer RHB but heard the service very bad? Anyone had any experience?

Any comment?

It depends, if you are someone who will frequently credit cash into your capital account and withdraw it frequently, then Full flexi will be the best choice (Usually business people will chose this package) RHB

If you are ordinary employee and doesn't have extra much cash to credit in and withdrawing frequently, semi flexi will be the choice.

lets'say you are the latter type of person, you will chose semi flexi. it boilds down to CIMB and Maybank.
the comparison between CIMB and Maybank actually has alot more, but to keep it succinct, if Maybank waived processing fees which is RM221, then maybank will be the best choice, moreover lower rate.



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QUOTE(kepong91 @ Oct 4 2015, 10:59 PM)
Hye everyone...My gross salary is at 2.8k....No car loan...Credit card full paymaster...

May I know roughly what is the budget cost of property that I can buy without joint holder?

What is the installment amount?

Let's say for under con property...
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Look at the table RIGHT BOTTOM, the max property you could buy are RM290,000 below for 5 banks

Moreover, if your credit card usage is less than 1 years, Margin finance from the bank will be less than 90%, because you are consider less preferred client. Low income, high risk

RM290,000/ 90%/ 4.5%/ 35years
Installment= RM1256.5
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QUOTE(y2_principle @ Oct 5 2015, 12:45 PM)
Thanks. But my concern is that we are on cousin relationship.

There's trick to make it happen, but inappropriate to share it here rolleyes.gif


So i need to know whats the criteria to obtain 90% loan. I once heard that if the bank thinks that the borrower can afford the loan on a stand-alone basis, they will grant 90%. Is that true? what other criteria?

To get loan approved and 90% margin of finance, it is based on few main criteria to few sub criteria.
1) Your income
2) Your debt

3) Income/ (debt+new installment) less than 70%

4) You credit payment record in ccris

5) The utilization of your credit to your credit limit must not greater than 85%

6) Your profession

7) Your company is either MNC or the rest

8) Your background (sex, kids, spouse, education, currently staying at.

1-5 Is main criteria for loan approval and margin finance eligibility

6-8 is sub criteria for 90% margin finance eligibility

Truth to say, need to analyze your case (income, debt/commitment, and your payment pattern) only we would able to consult you.


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QUOTE(rainderain @ Oct 5 2015, 01:09 PM)
Dear All,

I got a question..Lets say my loan tenure is 35 years ,monthly is around rm900,I pay 1500 every month for the instalment and the differences of rm 600 ,do i need to inform my bankers to allocate it under my principal?what is the disadvantage if i din inform?
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Dear rainderain,

For extra prepayment and whether you need to inform the bank before doing so, it depends.

It is based on bank to bank basis.

If you took Full flexi package, paying extra payment don't need to inform them. You loan account is tied to your current account, hence when you pay installment, it will credit straight into loan account. So you could save interest for every extra $$$ you credit into it.

For semi flexi (Some bank)
Some bank, you will need to notify them before you pay extra, if not it will be credited in advanced account, which will not reduce interest

Some bank, if you didn't notify them, the extra cash credited into the account, the bank will charge you interest. Weird but true sweat.gif

Some bank, don't need notification, it will credit into advanced account and reduce interest.

It is solely depends which bank you are tied to.
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post Oct 5 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(rainderain @ Oct 5 2015, 01:42 PM)
thanks Madgeniusfigo for your explanation smile.gif
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I like to explain stuff. So, thank you and no problem.
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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Oct 5 2015, 03:22 PM)
How much loan can he borrow for house purchasing if his main income is rm600 (Basic salry with EPF statement) and 1500RM side income ?
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Hmmm, the details here is very vague, based on this


Any debt and commitment? (borrower)

-Hire purchase loan (Purchased amount)*
-Housing loan (Outstanding amount)
-Personal loan (Credit limit)
-PTPTN (Oustanding)
-Credit card (Outstanding)
-ASB loan ( total Oustanding amount)
- Overdraft ( Credit limit)

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Oct 5 2015, 03:29 PM)
Just get from bank.. one of the factor is our house is located in not so good area + i don't have credit card.. and consider as high risk.. but i work under msc and my waifu is under a big group.. but still cant balance the cons
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Their internal credit department underwriting loans are different across bank.

Subsales, projects selling, who is the buyer for all the units house? BANK

BANKs are the main buyer, they will look at house factor.

They will look at your debt payment track record, usually if you have only 1 debt i your ccris, it will be enough. But really depends on which bank.

They are myriad of factors. Have to look at your document and ccris only can advise more comprehensively.
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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Oct 5 2015, 04:03 PM)
Hi need some help here,

1) if join name to buy a residential house, the commitment will be 50% each ?

2) if already join name to buy 1st prop which is residential house, 2nd property is commercial property, still can get max 80% loan ?

if future want to buy 3rd property, another commercial property, max 70% loan too or still 80% ?

3) Some bank offer BR lower + interest rate high, some bank offer BR high + interest rate low. What is the pros and cons ?

Thanks....
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1) Depends on both of your agreement. co applicant could be your gf, you love her so much and take over the loan payment all by yourself (example). But your ccris will have "J" Status, hence in bank eyes the debt/commitment is split among both of you.

2) 1st property residential 90%, 2nd property commercial 80%, 3rd property residential 90%, 4th property residential 70%, 4th property commercial 80%, 5th property residential 70%

3) There isn't any bullet proof strategy to predict the future of base rate (maybe there is, not what I know of) The best is to chose the lowest spread risk, as spread risk is fixed and base rate is fluctuating. Anyway, I'll go for the bank which offer the best rate and best facility. Rates are unpredictable in the future, all the rates might converge to same basis point or might diverge.

Anyway, new strategy is to keep your financial profile nice and tidy. Good repayment of ccris, low debt, high income, high DSR. Bank will offer you special rate for being such awesome paymaster with low dsr.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 5 2015, 05:02 PM)
What if they can't find my record?
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can't find your record?

Means you have no debt/commitment.

Hence, they couldn't track your payment pattern at all. they will either reject your loan or slash your margin of finance.
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Oct 5 2015, 06:06 PM)
need some advice notworthy.gif

lets say if i am to purchase a property slightly above my reach
no problem for loan approval, but more on disposal income/expenses later

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If you say slightly above your reach, means that you couldn't afford that property installment. How will you be eligible for the loan approval? hmm.gif

Bank DSR highest for Rm3000 above income bracket is 85%.



can still i pump in downpayment after purchase completed?
i possible i can sell off my other house later lower down the monthly installment, i dont want to risk my current lifestyle

thank you


You need to pay down payment when you sign S&P.
Or
You mark up the price, if it is subsales, if you get a higher value for your property, but you will still need to pay downpayment when you sign S&P.


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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Oct 5 2015, 06:26 PM)
Hi thx bro for your reply

regarding item 3, so it means the BR will keep on changing even we have secured the loan at this point of time with certain BR ? withour our consent ?

or is ther any kind of loan with fixed BR ?
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Yes, fine print is written in your loan agreement.

Base rates are rate set within individual bank itself and changes to the rate aren’t directly intervened by the central bank alike BLR. Base rate differed across different banks and the rates are set depending on bank own efficiencies in lending; means to the bank liking itself.

Base rate comprising of:
Base rate(Benchmark cost of Funds + SRR) + Spread (profit margin, operating cost, liquidity risk, credit risk)= Effective lending rate
Base rate + Spread = Effective Lending rate

*We always look at the effective lending rate for our final loan interest charge*

Base rate:
a) Benchmark cost of funds are adjusted by banks itself depends on its own valuation of its lending ability.
b) Statutory Reserve Requirement (SRR) are the minimum bank reserve quota set by BNM.
Spread
c) Spread is the margin of profit that banks set according to the borrower risk value.

Fun facts:
1. Base rate is different across different banks.
2. When OPR adjusted by BNM, Base rate would buldge
Base rate would either stay neutral or increase, depends on bank owns decision. Base rate could even change without OPR altered.
3. SRR is the reserve requirement that bank needs to uphold, set by BNM. It’s a liquidity management. When BNM believes economy is prospering and lack of funds, it may reduce SRR requirement to keep less money as reserves in bank and have bank lend more fund out for economic activities. This lead to higher loan growth. The changes of Base rate can reflect the effectiveness of Government Monetary Policy.
4. Spread are defined according to the borrower risk profile, but spread rate are mainly fixed when display to public, as most of the borrower holds almost identical risk.
5. Base rate will be adjusted every 3 months, it’s same concept as KLIBOR but slightly different. Every 3 months bank has the authority to change the base rate.

Example:
Jan OCBC rate 4.02
April OCBC rate 3.92

6. Spread rate will not change and is fixed till the end of the loan tenure
7. even when base rate is superbly low, the effective lending rate in the end could be higher.

Example:
Maybank: Base rate 3.2% + Spread 1.5% =4.7%
OCBC: Base rate 4.02%+ Spread 0.5%=4.52%
It all boil's down on the spread given, hence do look at the effective lending rate instead!!! Shop around and ask your mortgage agent.

Base rate
Pro
a) Greater competition between banks
b) Higher transparency, as bank will display their profit margin and bank lending efficiency
c) Bank loan rate changes will have a higher correlation with Malaysia market economy and OPR.
d) Better indication in monetary policy changes.

Cons
a) Uncertainty. Rate will change every 3 months’ time.

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QUOTE(kepong91 @ Oct 5 2015, 11:11 PM)
Thx for the info...nowadays still able to find 200k property?
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able to find, but not prime location. Usually flat will be around that range.
Or
condo which is quite outskirt.
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QUOTE(rainderain @ Oct 5 2015, 11:44 PM)
Loan tenure is better to drag longer years or shorter?jz donwan fix myself to pay higher loan..but once for spare money will pump on extra to reduce my loan interest.
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Longer year will be better, cause we take time value of money into factor.
Moreover, the longer loan tenure we serve, the lower the installment.

Since you will be pumping extra cash into loan account, then your total interest paid will definitely reduce.
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QUOTE(diversity @ Oct 5 2015, 11:45 PM)
Hi everyone,

I really need some help here. Here goes~

I'm interested now to buy a property. But wondering whether I am able to get the loan or not, wouldn't wanna get my hopes up too high.

My details:
-3k gross, 2.7k net.
-No commitments whatsoever
-Have PTPTN loan, but have been paying regularly (bankers told me its listed in my profile, but won't affect loan amount calculation)
-Been using credit card since last year and using quite a lot and paying on time, never late payment before. So far a lot of banks been calling me up for free credit cards. So far I accepted one and now I got two.  (Bankers told me that my name is listed in CCRIS, its a good thing, not blacklisted of course)
-Started working mid of last year, so now 1 year+ already
-Have good documents, for etc year 2014 I received early confirmation and bonus for 2014
-Have absolutely no debts
-Company is MNC
-Accountancy career
-Currently renting
Let's say I'm seeking for a 90% margin and 35 years tenure, and able to pay all the legal fees etc. What's the highest loan amount I can get. To be frank, the property that I'm really keen on is selling for RM430K.

Really hope someone can help me. Thanks all  thumbup.gif
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1)Bank will prefer MNC company, you are at the right track
2) What's your bonus received?

Lets assume your credit card doesn't owe any outstanding.

With your current 3k income, it's impossible to get RM430K property

The max You can get is Rm270,000 property.

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