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post Oct 29 2015, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(rainderain @ Oct 29 2015, 04:10 PM)
PBB will possible allow to pay the installment(principle + interest) during contruction period?for example disbursement only 10 percent
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Dear Rainderain

1. Not all banks provide such services.

2. Yes PBB do offer this package and allows you to pay installment (principle + interest). but your starting installment payment will be heavy rather than allowing yourself to seek and pay for min amount during the construction period.

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post Oct 29 2015, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 29 2015, 06:44 PM)
Do you heard of any other bank shall follow the footstep of CIMB to impose extra charges on their full flexi account?
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Dear samkps,

1 Other banks has been imposing charges on over utilization of the capital account. Just with different method. CIMB gets the most huuuuhaaaa from this.

2. Ambank charging rm500/ month if your outstanding balance after crediting extra cash into it is less than 10% of the actual outstanding balance
RM500,000 OUTSTANNDING, CREDIT RM460,000. rm40,000 10%OF rm500,000 IS rm50,000. Bank will imposed charges. This isn't as bad as CIMB but still almost equal footing.

3. It really depends on banks leveraging ratio and profit margin. So there isn't much to predict for incoming banks imposing such policy.

4. Putting cash into capital account is never my idea, I will use most of the cash to invest and some partial emergency cash in the capital account. Rm100,000 MAX will do for any emergency.

5. Why park all your cash in capital account when you can utilized it investing into different assets which bring higher yield.

6. As I say I am never a believer of this flexi system.
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post Oct 30 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 30 2015, 01:02 AM)
Thanks for sharing.

1. Mind to share other than Ambank?

2. Ambank only charge when the extra cash hitting 90% on the margin of the loan facility, that seems still reasonable to me. We understand bank also need to make profit, and having the 10% leftover loan for the bank earning the interest from my perception is still acceptable. CIMB setting the threshold at 70%, which is really unreasonable. The figure clearly speaks for itself.

3. At least we can avoid those bank with high possibility to impose such idiot charges.

4. I am a property investor and sometime I need incubation time to target the desired property. There is a need to park the excess cash in a tool that is highly flexible with almost zero risk capital depreciation/fluctuation. Beside the property flexi account, can you suggest others which carry the same characteristic?

5. As in 4, different people have different investment portfolio. I just need a stable platform to park the excessive cash with high flexibility while I am targeting for the next potential property.

6. Flexi system works perfectly for my investment portfolio until recently they revise the charges..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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1. Let me look back on other Letter offer first, can't recall. Lately been doing lots of ambank cases.

2. Yes, but nothing can be undone. Change facility to other banks shall show protest. haha, Mortgage loan to the bank doesn't actually make them much money except, it is an entry dish for them to cross sell you credit card, open current account, saving account. So, you cant blame them for such action when it is not making them much money and margin profit diluted.

3. So far bank has almost the same policy on capital account with ambank just that the structure is alittle bit different.

4. The best is still credit into flexi account.
FD now comes with flexi, you can take your money out anytime and earn the periods hold in FD's interest. You only get mortgage from one bank? CIMB? because you could park at other bank's capital account facility.

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post Oct 30 2015, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(choywm @ Oct 30 2015, 05:41 PM)
Need some advise from Maybank experts.

I m refinancing my property with cashout. Manage to secure max cashout based on 10 years calculation to be put into flexi(OD) acct. Redemption portion is put into normal TL for 30 years.

Problem is officer claim that repayment for the flexi(OD) cannot be stretched to 30 years & is capped at 10 years.

I tot 10 years is only for calculation purposes?
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Dear choywm,

For refinance cash out.

1. Cash out part 10 years is on the calculation part. It is only for the bank internal calculation for your loan eligibility.

2. Cash out installment payment can be stretch to 35 years max loan tenure and maximum age 70. If you are currently age 60, then no choice, 10 years is your max.

3. Oh, it's ok, I ain't any expert of Maybank, but I am able to help you to stretched it to 35 years max if your age is less than 36 years old.

If you need my help, just give me a call or text will do. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Oct 30 2015, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(choywm @ Oct 30 2015, 07:03 PM)
Need another advise,

My property value 730k, loan amt of 80% for 584K. Got a quotation of;

1) loan legal fees + stamp duty = RM9,515
2) Valuation = RM1,450

Is this excessive or reasonable?
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1) This is the estimation of the total loan amount charged and differ by bank. This is a benchmark of the highest cost.

2. Yes, your legal loan+stampduty loan + valuation price is logical and reasonable.
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post Oct 30 2015, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(choywm @ Oct 30 2015, 07:20 PM)
So you are saying that cash-out even if converted to OD can be stretched to max tenure of 30 years? I am 40
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Dear choywm,

Sorry, didn't see the OD part, my eyes skipped a beat when looking at your posts. haha

1. May I know what's the reason for you to take Overdraft over normal cash out?

As the interest for overdraft is very high
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post Oct 30 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(choywm @ Oct 30 2015, 07:47 PM)
I choose OD cos I will not use it all at one go. Rate not much higher than normal.

So can still stretch to 30 years?
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Dear choywm,

If you use cash out is much more beneficial, let me explain here.

1.Full Flexi cash out is beneficial because the interest rate is based on the loan amount which Rm500k above rate range 4.4%-4.6.

2. When you are not going to utilized your cash out amount, you can park it inside your loan capital account to avoid the interest charged.

3. When there's an emergency, you can quickly withdraw the cash from the capital account.

Example.

Full flexi

Rm600k loan amount /4.4%/
Rm200k cash out amount/4.4%/

It isn't the time to utilized your cash yet, hence you park it inside your full flexi loan capital account.

Rm600k-RM200k =RM400K
interest charged on the RM400K instead of the RM600K.
Hence, your Rm200k cash out is parked without being charged interest. (safe heaven)

4. For OD, the interest should be around 5% above (Not sure right now) / full flexi cash out 4.4-4.7%

5. There's a 1% interest charged for unutilized amount (RM200K and above) / full flexi cash out no additional charges

6. Bank will review your profile and can decide to stop financing your overdraft. (hence your emergency cash can be taken anytime) / full flexi cash out, you have full authority control over it

7. nowadays bank usually will offer half term half OD

8. Maybank, tenure of the OD usually follows the term loan or less (I am not sure about this, HOPE some one can explain on this) / full flexi cash out capable stretching to maximum 35 years, hence the installment will not be that heavy.

Conclusion is

Full flexi cash out strived over OD facility.

Just my opinions
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post Oct 31 2015, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Nardev87 @ Oct 31 2015, 02:47 AM)
Dear all,

Do banks take claims into account as part of income? Apart from my main salary, I received claims at the end of the month as I travel a lot. I need to know whether bank will consider it as part of income. Kindly advise as I need to apply for home loan. Thanks!
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Dear Nardev87,

1. Bank wouldn't take claim as income derivation. Claim is consider money unearned.

2. Bank will only consider income as follow
a. Gross salary
b. Allowance
c. Commission
d. OT
e. Bonus
f. FD
G. Rental income
h. ASB dividend
I. Shares Div

3. Are your income at the edge and aren't sufficient to service the installment? Do provide details below so that we can calculate for you accurately your max loan eligibility.

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1.Borrower
-age
-No. of borrowers
-no. of housing loan

2. Income (borrower)
- Gross salary
-Variable income for business (6months latest)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."
-OT
-Fixed allowance
-Variable Allowance (6months latest)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."
-Bonus contractual (1 year bonus amount)
-Bonus performance (2 years bonus amount)
-Comission (6 months, each month amount from the earliest)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."

3. Supporting income (borrower)
-Tenancy agreement rental (6months)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."
-ASB ( 2 years total bonus)
-Shares dividend
-Fixed deposit

4. Debt / commitment (borrower) "joint or indiv"
-Hire purchase loan (Borrowed amount)*
-Housing loan (Borrowed amount) (Joint or indiv)
-Personal loan (Credit limit)
-PTPTN (credit limit)
-Credit card (Outstanding/usage)
-ASB loan ( credit limit)
- Overdraft ( Credit limit)
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QUOTE(yrag @ Oct 30 2015, 10:29 PM)
Dear Sifus,

need some advise from you guys urgently.. plz help.

i have payed depoisit for a subsale hse.. lets say 500k value..then i just got got my loan approved for 90% of 500k from the bank.. offer letter with bank already signed..

So now next step is to sign S&P right.. i keep insisting that i want the valuation report out first before i sign S&P.. because what will happen if valuation report come out 400k only.. den i already sign S&P.. means i will have to top up 100k wich i dont have.. so is it safer to hold on to S&P signing until after valuation report..

Banker saying that they can start valuation process until S&P is signed.. is this true.

banker and lawyer both introduced by my agent.. i feel that they do not have my best interest at heart. im i wrong plz advise TQ kamsiah.
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Dear yrag,

1. Before you loan submission, banker will call their panel valuation firm to do 2 verbal valuation on your property. They will just provide housing address, square feet , any renovation details on the property to the valuer and property type. The valuer will then check their system data record for latest transaction price for your property and deduced a suitable range of price.

2. When valuer gave a price that can matched their call, hence the verbal valuation checking is done and confirmed. Banker will then submit your loan. After your loan accepted, you will sign Letter offer.

3. After you sign letter offer, bank will send Letter of instruction to lawyer and valuer. You will then sign the SPA, valuer will then ask for a copy of SPA from the lawyer. Valuer will start doing land check on the property itself and do a valuation report. Valuation report done, if the price mismatch, valuer will call you and inform you about it.

4. The verbal valuation part when valuer confirmed with banker the value match, usually it matched.

5. But when valuer only give 500k property value for Rm600k PROPERTY PRICE, and banker write in 600k property value in submission form and lie to you, the possibility of you paying for the extra cost will be there.

6. You wouldn't know whether valuer gave the exact value you wanted to buy or sell at initial stage. There is possibility where banker will give you the number of the valuer and let you to confirmed with him (highly unlikely)

7. When the valuation report is out and the price and value doesn't match, you can cancel the whole deal. Yeah it is a waste of time. and it incurs abortion fees of 1%

8. This whole system is based on trust actually. So, find a reliable banker who would help you out genuinely.

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QUOTE(yrag @ Oct 31 2015, 08:14 PM)
thx for the detailed write up Madge.. really helps alot.. another question tho.

7. When the valuation report is out and the price and value doesn't match, you can cancel the whole deal. Yeah it is a waste of time. and it incurs abortion fees of 1%

point no.7.. this abortion fees of 1%.. its written in the S&P right.. i mean is it a standard clause in the S&P agreement.. or is it default by law.

really appeciate u takin the time to help
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1) Different bank has different charges. Do read at the facility agreement
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QUOTE(usernamethatsme @ Nov 2 2015, 12:45 AM)
If it would just like to save interest payments, would it then make sense if I change from cimb flexi to cimb semi flexi?

I am already at my 30% , and will be charged at extra rm40 each month.
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Dear usernamethatsme

1. changing from flexi to semi flexi is just the same. They mechanism of the flexi is still the same but you will saved on rm10 current account. (I bet CIMB won't allow such transition from full to semi flexi or I might be wrong)

2. If you have other flexi account, do put it into them, If you don't have, worst come worst pop it into FD account or DUO FOREIGN FD account for higher interest rate.
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QUOTE(kelthruzad @ Nov 2 2015, 06:35 PM)
Hi all

I'm looking for 90% loan of RM746k for a new completed house. Prefer with zero moving cost. Any suggestion?
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Dear Kelthruzad,

1. HSBC have zero moving cost but usually zero moving cost rate comes with higher interest rate than normal conventional loan. ZMC only preferable towards people who wish to flip their property within 5-6 years time or less. So that they can keep their entry cost low, intial investment cost low and rip higher profit yield. It really depends on the rate difference.

2. If you would hold your property for a long time, it will be advisable to get Non - ZMC.

3. For few banks without zero moving cost, you can actually finance 90%+ 5%. Meaning to say, 5% will be inclusive of your legal loan fees, stamp duty fees and valuation into your loan amount. The rate will be lower than zero moving cost rate.

4. In the end, it really boils down to how many years you are holding the property and the rate different by how many %.
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QUOTE(rainderain @ Nov 2 2015, 06:44 PM)
Dear All,

is it advisable to pay instalment for undercon project when the disbursement start ?any disadvantage ?ofcoz the good is is save interest smile.gif
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Dear rainderain,

1. To pay full installment during construction period, only few bank will have this options (PBB and etc etc). You will need to indicate it to your loan agent before loan submission.

2. For usual scenario, you can only serve full installment when the project is 80-90% of completion, you will need to write to bank and request to start full installment.

3. To your question, Yes and No.
No, as some investor they would pay as little as they can before they flip their property (short term)
Yes, for own stayed owner who wants to start paying on the capital ASAP. Moreover, to save up on the interest, because interest paid during the construction period wouldn't credit into capital.


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QUOTE(laysan12 @ Nov 2 2015, 03:06 PM)
Hi , may i know is it ok to accept islamic housing loan?
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Dear Laysan12,

1. Yes, there isn't anything wrong with islamic housing loan. Is just that the name and terms used are different for both of them.

2. Conventional loan and islamic housing loan serve the same purposes

3. Islamic housing loan doesn't have lock in period, but it comes with a catch wink.gif

4. Islamic loan has more paper documentation and you will need to fill up more paper.

Conclusion,

You can opt for islamic housing loan, no harm.
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Nov 2 2015, 10:58 PM)
Hi, I wanted to ask, after I settle my loan, who I get a release title from the bank?
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Dear gunplakk,

1. The answer is Yes.

2. When you wish to settle your loan, go to one of the branch, fill up the form and get your lawyer and paid off the remaining outstanding balance.

3. After everything is don, you can collect your title.

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QUOTE(rainderain @ Nov 2 2015, 11:12 PM)
As a owner ..I hope can pay my capital asap...I also can't sell my house in 10 years ..affordable home
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Oh Rumahwip.

1. Yes, 10 years is the term for receiving a good deal from the government.

2. To start paying off your installment early, only 2 ways to do so as stated from previous post.

3. If the restrictions for RUMAHWIP aren't that strict, try renting it out. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(leelee1988 @ Nov 3 2015, 01:15 PM)
Would like to know is there any bank that still doing 3rd party refinancing?
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Dear leelee,

1. Yes, 3rd party financing is still allowed. Each bank has its own 3rd party financing criteria.

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2. If you are saying Pure 3rd party financing. Go for OCBC.
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QUOTE(skidd @ Nov 3 2015, 02:46 PM)
Hi guys,
need advice on the below :
I'm moving to a new company soon and i was told that my housing loan will be converted from staff rate to commecial with interest rate of BLR +0.50%.
I have 50k balance for my house and 20k for my car.
I'm paying 850 for the house and 900 for the car every month.
What are my best option to cover for both house and car and maybe have a bit money to put in FD.
I'm looking at a 10 or maybe 15 years refinancing option with a monthly of 800 or less

TQ TQ tQ
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Dear Skidd,

1. Sad to hear that your rate will hike.

2. May I know more about your profile before we discuss further? Could you provide me with below details for better accuracy in advising you.

CODE
1.Borrower
-age
-No. of borrowers
-no. of housing loan

2. Income (borrower)
- Gross salary
-Variable income for business (6months latest)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."
-OT
-Fixed allowance
-Variable Allowance (6months latest)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."
-Bonus contractual (1 year bonus amount)
-Bonus performance (2 years bonus amount)
-Comission (6 months, each month amount from the earliest)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."

3. Supporting income (borrower)
-Tenancy agreement rental (6months)
"1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6."
-ASB ( 2 years total bonus)
-Shares dividend
-Fixed deposit

4. Debt / commitment (borrower) "joint or indiv"
-Hire purchase loan (Borrowed amount)*
-Housing loan (Borrowed amount) (Joint or indiv)
-Personal loan (Credit limit)
-PTPTN (credit limit)
-Credit card (Outstanding/usage)
-ASB loan ( credit limit)
- Overdraft ( Credit limit)



3. 15 years installment Rm800. The rate will be around 4.6%.

To cash out and pay just RM800 installment, the amount to finance is RM105,000

-Actually, How much cash do you intend to cash out?

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QUOTE(faridfauzi @ Nov 4 2015, 05:54 PM)
Hi guys, learn a lot from this topic (although i do skip from page 3 to page 108).

Me and my wife already book one unit of apartment at KL TRADERS. So we are currently looking for housing loans. And it is our first house.

What do i need to see inside the loans?
As of now i got:

1) FEC/FAC
2) MRTA/MLTA
3) BR
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Dear Faridfauzi,

With all the debates and sharing, yeah, you can learn alot from this thread alone.

1. When you applied for loan, there's few things you need to look at.

a) Lock in period
b) Penalty charges for late payment
c) Loan tenure
d) the interest rate
e) Margin of finance %


2. For MRTA AND mlta EXPLANATION do look at above post I written. Usually MLTA would be appropriate as MRTA Coverage and benefits aren't that comprehensive.

3. Have you guys applied any mortgage with any banks? If you need my consult, feel free to inquire me. I don't charge fees as I receive commission from the bank itself. I provide unbiased overview of which bank you should apply and analyse your profile. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kingsora @ Nov 4 2015, 09:36 PM)
My Maybank loan got approved. Maybe tomorrow will know more about the details.

RHB and BSN probably at the end of the week.

How low the current rate for around 500K property right now? Can get lower than 4.4%?
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Dear kingsora,

Congratulation on your loan approval! When loan approved, you will be able to know the loan details already......

1. For the lowest rate can be done for property RM300K and above is 4.4% Rm500k above is 4.37%. This is the best deal AMbank could offer! haha

2. For other bank Rm500,000 property (RHB, BSN) would be standard 4.4-.4.5%

3. PB RM800k above property could get 4.35%

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