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Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)
Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)
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Mar 25 2016, 01:00 PM
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Mar 25 2016, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 25 2016, 05:05 PM) Actually there are clauses in the Loan Agreement that allows the Bank to increase the spread at any time without assigning any reason. The small fine print in the LO or FA granted the bank's right to do so (and in fact many things the bank can do under the watertight terms and conditions) but it is very unlikely to happen and in this particular case about the revision of pricing spread (if no sign of deterioration in the credit standing of the borrower) it is against the BNM Reference Rate Framework. |
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Mar 30 2016, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Mar 30 2016, 05:47 PM) Dear, Nope. The analysis of the above doesn't really help in BR prediction as BR components reflect the changes of monetary policy and market funding / liquidity condition. Nevertheless, analysis on the FI financials does help to have a better clue of some of the components of the loan spread.1. Read their financial statement and their current financial position 2. look at their gearing ratio 3. look at their mortgage portfolio 4. understand the shareholders vision 5. Their turnover and profit based on the above, you could somehow tell would the bank increase their base rate. I am just saying, not really accurate. Cheers |
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Mar 30 2016, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(tansj83 @ Mar 30 2016, 02:46 PM) You can have prediction on the BR trend as it corresponds closely to the monetary policy of the country and the market liquidity. Do a study and forecast on the state of economy locally and abroad (incl inflation, GDP growth & interest rate) - that's for a longer term basis. Market liquidity can also be affected by many other factors eg the needs for the banking industry to be in compliant with the Basel III requirements resulted in a surge in demand for deposits and consequently the rise in money market rate, the ease of SRR which resulted in free-up of funds to the market (hence more liquity and ease of rate) etc. |
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Apr 18 2016, 12:18 PM
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Apr 19 2016, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Apr 19 2016, 04:16 PM) Dear, Statement no 4 really drops my jaw.1. Both is same Full flexi. 2. Now you just need to compare the services and quality package offered by both the bank 3. Conventional PBB has its downfall, as its max default grace period is 60 days, whereas RHB is 90days 4. RHB FF is not convenient and no on par with other FF. 5. If you are opting for great FF service, go for PBB FF. Cheers |
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Apr 20 2016, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(faiyahoo @ Apr 20 2016, 07:05 PM) Currently I've not found my desire property yet but let say I have settled the outstanding PTPTN now. In future do I still need to provide the letter of settlement? And I would like to ask will these previous record giving a big impact on mortgage application? If you mean fully settled, then the record will be removed from the CCRIS, hence no longer visible by bankers.So far for my car loan and credit card I think I have maintained a good record which it shows all 0 in the ccris. |
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Apr 20 2016, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(faiyahoo @ Apr 20 2016, 07:16 PM) Ok, thanks for the info. Actually I did pay my ptptn consistently for 3 years just that my initial thought was wrong and causing I have 7 months of arrears. If you are capable of regularizing the payments in arrears, then you don't even need to do a loan restructuring / rescheduling. Clear the arrears and continue then with prompt payments. |
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Apr 25 2016, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(KawaiiYUI @ Apr 25 2016, 07:49 AM) Previously i have a tunggakan of 5 months PTPTN loan. Have just clear in off early of this months. It is mean i need to wait until 15th May when the CCRIS result out only start to applying loan? You can still go ahead with your loan application and if there is a need then show the proof of your payment that you have regularize the arrears. If your PTPTN monthly payment is still within your capacity, then just continue your payment promptly going forward and no restructuring is required.I already book for a house and developer only allow me to have 21days to look for a loan, is there any where i can speed it up? Btw, the CCRIS is to be updated latest by 10th by the participating financial institutions. 15th is no longer the deadline. This post has been edited by Jasoncat: Apr 25 2016, 08:06 AM |
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Apr 25 2016, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Apr 25 2016, 06:38 PM) Dear, So long as the loan repayment is made and cleared on the last business day of the month, there shouldn't be such thing as "BNM staff need time to update system."Yes, you are right. 1. Ask from the developer to extend your allowable time, usually they would allow. Tell them you current circumstances. 2. you can actually proceed with it right now, just ask PTPTN provide you with settlement letter, bank will accept it. RHB, HLBB, PBB, AMBANK no problem. Regarding CCRIS update issues 1. CCRIS will be updated every 10-11th of each month. Example: April 10-11th, will show CCRIS details of March 1-30th 2. If you settle your debt by 28 or 29th MARCH, April ccris updated on the 10-11th will had removed your settled debt from CCRIS. 3. Make sure you don't settle it at the very last day, because bank stuff need time to key in the report and BNM staff need time to update the system. |
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Apr 30 2016, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(physz.86 @ Apr 30 2016, 04:12 PM) Thanks. This conclusion is somewhat misleading. It's only true if the BR of the banks that you compare are all the same otherwise no historical evidence or any study that can convincingly suggest that "lowest spread is the best".So in term of spread, i can say the lowest spread is the best option as it is fixed throughout the loan tenure. Yes, of course i have to see other features offered. |
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May 4 2016, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(physz.86 @ May 4 2016, 09:22 PM) Anybody here know how to calculate instalment need to pay for property under construction according to schedule H? Example, for property price rm200k with installment rm1k per month... Refer to picture, if progress already at (a) stage which percentage of construction is 20%... Can i say purchaser only have to pay 20% of installment which is rm200??? Finally when it complete 100%, then purchaser can start to pay full installment. QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 4 2016, 09:24 PM) Yes you're right that's called constructive interest meaning you pay only based on the total amount disbursed to the developer until 100% completed During construction, the borrower only needs to pay loan interest of the loan disbursed. Payment of loan instalment (principal + interest) only commence upon full drawdown. This is basic. |
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May 4 2016, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(budak minyak @ May 4 2016, 04:43 PM) Yes, the spread is fixed for the whole tenure. But the fluctuate component is BR. And BR will be revised every 3 months right. So in this case, if both banks offer 4.4%, should i go with the bank that offers higher BR or lower BR ? May I know on what basis you said BR will be revised every 3 months? |
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QUOTE(physz.86 @ May 4 2016, 09:12 PM) Bank A: br 4 + sp 0.45 = 4.45 The above statement in red is somewhat incorrect. The profit margin is a component of the loan spread, not the BR. Also, BR doesn't imply the strenght of the bank.Bank B: br 3.2 + sp 1.25 = 4.45 Case 1 Example after 10 yrs (with new br) Bank A: br 5 + sp 0.45 = 5.45 Bank B: br 3.5 + sp 1.25 = 4.75 Case 2 After 10 yrs Bank A: br 5 + sp 0.45 = 5.45 Bank B: br 4.2 + sp 1.25 = 5.45 Which case is most probably will happen? Case 2 is just like current situation. No diff in term of ELR. BR for me is strength unit for bank. Bank with lowest BR is strongest bank as it can offer lowest margin of profit compared to other bank while spread is one parameter that helps all bank keep on competetive. Otherwise, all customer will go to bank with lowest br. Other bank can tutup kedai already. Haha. Anyway this is just my theory. I dont have degree certificate in financing. |
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QUOTE(MrKK @ May 6 2016, 09:28 AM) Hi dear, Property value does have a impact particularly in the subsale financing. It may affect the loan quantum though margin of finance may be fixed as it's not uncommon to see the bank's approval to state sth like "loan approved at x% of margin of finance based on S&P price or formal valuation, whichever is the lower". 1. Loan Margin that will be slash is depending on applicant's scoring profile. NOTE: The value of the property will NOT affect the loan margin eg. i) Customers with good scoring and purchasing the first house > 90% loan margin ii) Customers with non-healthy scoring (late payment shown in CCRIS) and purchasing the first house > 70% loan margin 2. Price in S&P is just an agreement between both party ( purchaser & vendor/developer ) that they agree with this price. But Banks need to secure themselves, therefore value of the property will be verified by VALID VALUER PANEL CHEERS In some other instance, the margin of finance may change but loan quantum remain the same despite the fact that the valuation differs from the S&P. Says the loan is approved based on S&P price but formal valuation shows value lower than the S&P price and the bank may consider to allow the loan quantum to remain as originally approved due to reasons like no significant variance between the formal valuation & S&P, the bank remain well secured despite lower valuation given the low margin of finance required by the borrower etc. |
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QUOTE(MrKK @ May 6 2016, 11:33 AM) Well, technically margin of finance wouldn't be affected. However valuation will be affecting the loan amount to be finance to the borrower. Bank will opt for the lowest value but by stating loan margin, it will be misleading as loan margin is to how much can someone borrow the loan. Loan margin that I stated previously in other term is " margin of finance " As I demonstrated in my second para, margin of finance may change with the change in the value of the property financed. 1st para - the MOF remain.CHEEEERS |
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QUOTE(MrKK @ May 6 2016, 02:57 PM) Hi dear, On the part of the charges for semi / full flexi, I think it's somewhat misleading to generalise it given the different product charges by different bank.1. The rate offers by bank now is from 4.4% depends on applicant profile 2. i) Full flexi will be a fixed charges of RM10/month for any transaction/ no transaction ii) Semi flexi will be a charges from RM23+ for every transaction CHEERS |
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QUOTE(physz.86 @ May 7 2016, 11:33 AM) I got offer from bank A. Monthly interest needs to be paid during construction period:Islamic package, interest rate 4.45. As the property is under construction... Customer pay fixed interest during construction period. Is this good? As i dont have any idea normally how much need to pay the interest during construction. If somebody can give some formula would be better. Rate × amount of loan disbursed × number of days of the month / 365 Roughly, you can presume total interest expense paid during construction period will be around 3% - 5% of your purchase price. |
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QUOTE(Since2000 @ May 7 2016, 12:36 PM) Hi,just place booking and want apply 350k loan next week. In the first place, are you be able to regularize the payment in arrears for your PTPTN? If you do and you are willing to do so, then just regularize and keep your PTPTN payment prompt in the future. If the arrears is beyond your ability to clear then ask for restructuring.But I realize that I having a bad record in Ccris report due to unpaid ptptn. What should I do before I submit loan next week? I don't really buy the idea when the so-called mortgage / financial consultant like to simply just asking people to restructure the loan. |
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 7 2016, 04:01 PM) just giving the answer they are asking, whether they can or cannot afford it or not is another question. This is not the thread for cari makan ... If want to cari makan here and MOD is fine with it, then give correct and professional advice.If you have some personal issues with mortgage or financial consultant may feel free to open another thread for that, this is not the place for such arguments. |
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