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SUSJose Mourinho
post Dec 10 2014, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 10 2014, 09:44 PM)
company still have ur home address, parents' name, siblings' name, etc.

ask u to pay or sue u for sure laugh.gif
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post Dec 10 2014, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(whyamiblack @ Dec 10 2014, 09:25 PM)
Lambat. Already got it. But cannot use for commercial purpose lah. Got it without .edu email but nobody knows what's their security measure to make sure people don't use it for commercial purposes.
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Watermark. If u edit any files with the student version, the file will be permanently watermark, even if u use original software to open the file after that.
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post Dec 10 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(WindDragon @ Dec 10 2014, 09:50 PM)
Watermark. If u edit any files with the student version, the file will be permanently watermark, even if u use original software to open the file after that.
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when i print using ori 2014 LT version the watermark didnt come out tho
but when transfer back to other full version CAD the watermark still there

also transferring even a line from the edu version to the full version would make the file to have the watermark

This post has been edited by Elgore: Dec 10 2014, 09:54 PM
WindDragon
post Dec 10 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(un.deux.trois @ Dec 10 2014, 09:17 PM)
lel I used lanun Autocad on my personal laptop to do my assignment because I was lazy to go to university lab. Untunglah students now can get it for free.
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Dec 10 2014, 09:21 PM)
Rm 10 sudah boleh dapat, 99.999 discount compared to 40k
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If student use pirated software to learn then its OK for me la.

But a lot architect boss all drive Ferrari or Lamborghini, 1 project get millions millions but use pirate software.
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Elgore @ Dec 10 2014, 01:40 PM)
pen pencil quite obsolete
now just draw from basic CAD software
BIM still new here i guess

i dunno about BIM but interested to know more biggrin.gif

the future definitely moving towards BIM but feels slow here
hack even lots of people arent even aware of BIM
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Most big architecture firms in malaysia and those with partners in singapore are already using BIM since the last 5 years. DBKL and JKR now have their own BIM group who're responsible to push the industry to adopt BIM, but they're still new.

UTM architecture programme fully equips students with BIM authoring skills using revit with climatic simulations. Some of the big architecture schools are also adopting revit as well.

Im a Revit instructor and was responsible of implementing BIM syllabus into the architecture curriculum.
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 10 2014, 10:00 PM)
Most big architecture firms in malaysia and those with partners in singapore are already using BIM since the last 5 years. DBKL and JKR now have their own BIM group who're responsible to push the industry to adopt BIM, but they're still new.

UTM architecture programme fully equips students with BIM authoring skills using revit with climatic simulations. Some of the big architecture schools are also adopting revit as well.

Im a Revit instructor and was responsible of implementing BIM syllabus into the architecture curriculum.
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rclxms.gif nice

tho next time i cari makan susah d since i dunno BIM sweat.gif
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Elgore @ Dec 10 2014, 02:02 PM)
rclxms.gif nice

tho next time i cari makan susah d since i dunno BIM  sweat.gif
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Most people with 3d background find revit a bit harder to learn. But i attribute it to their perspective of treating it like another 3D modelling software. It's not.

So for those without 3D background, i recommend learnin this straightaway and skip sketchup!
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 10 2014, 10:06 PM)
Most people with 3d background find revit a bit harder to learn. But i attribute it to their perspective of treating it like another 3D modelling software. It's not.

So for those without 3D background, i recommend learnin this straightaway and skip sketchup!
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what about from CAD 2D background and 3dMax user? hmm.gif
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Elgore @ Dec 10 2014, 02:12 PM)
what about from CAD 2D background and 3dMax user?  hmm.gif
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how extensive is ur 3d background? basic 3D will help u understand the model. but the biggest difference is the workflow. revit is very profession-centric. meaning revit architecture is tuned to how architects work, while revit structure is tuned to structural engineers. if u're neither of those, then working in that environment can be counter-intuitive. i tried learning revit MEP, but i just dont understand why this has to come after that and not before, because that's how mechanical engineers sort out their business.

everybody will work in 3D. but the workflow is unique to their profession.
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 10 2014, 10:00 PM)
Most big architecture firms in malaysia and those with partners in singapore are already using BIM since the last 5 years. DBKL and JKR now have their own BIM group who're responsible to push the industry to adopt BIM, but they're still new.

UTM architecture programme fully equips students with BIM authoring skills using revit with climatic simulations. Some of the big architecture schools are also adopting revit as well.

Im a Revit instructor and was responsible of implementing BIM syllabus into the architecture curriculum.
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Some architects in malaysia use Revit because their Singapore consultants use Revit, but I won't call it BIM. U can have your 4D,5D or even 6D revit model but if the Developers and Main Contractors are not practising BIM, then the model is useless or what I call a very expensive clash detection model haha.

One of the reason why only 1 company in malaysia successfully implement BIM. Because the main con, architect, MEP engineer, structural engineer all under 1 umbrella company.
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 10 2014, 10:17 PM)
how extensive is ur 3d background? basic 3D will help u understand the model. but the biggest difference is the workflow. revit is very profession-centric. meaning revit architecture is tuned to how architects work, while revit structure is tuned to structural engineers. if u're neither of those, then working in that environment can be counter-intuitive. i tried learning revit MEP, but i just dont understand why this has to come after that and not before, because that's how mechanical engineers sort out their business.

everybody will work in 3D. but the workflow is unique to their profession.
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0 in autocad 3d sweat.gif
basic to intermediate in 3dmax
0 in sketchup sweat.gif
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QUOTE(WindDragon @ Dec 10 2014, 02:17 PM)
Some architects in malaysia use Revit because their Singapore consultants use Revit, but I won't call it BIM. U can have your 4D,5D or even 6D revit model but if the Developers and Main Contractors are not practising BIM, then the model is useless or what I call a very expensive clash detection model haha.

One of the reason why only 1 company in malaysia successfully implement BIM. Because the main con, architect, MEP engineer, structural engineer all under 1 umbrella company.
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agreed. our main weakness as compared to singapore is BIM in malaysia is not coming from the top. in singapore, they made it the industry regulation to use BIM for all projects, and those without it will greatly suffer.

so far most firms i visited as part of students' industrial placement use revit as BIM authoring only, but not much else beyond that. even that is quite beneficial to the offices, as an architect can now work with less technical assistants, which means less people on the payroll yet the yield is higher as a project can be completed in less time.

i used to work freelance in a small group for 2 years, and it was pretty hectic, i had to drop it. but now i'm picking it up again, with a bungalow-sized projects done alone in a matter of days rather than weeks.
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QUOTE(Elgore @ Dec 10 2014, 02:22 PM)
0 in autocad 3d  sweat.gif
basic to intermediate in 3dmax
0 in sketchup  sweat.gif
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oklah tu. go try revit.
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Elgore @ Dec 10 2014, 10:12 PM)
what about from CAD 2D background and 3dMax user?  hmm.gif
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Revit is for creating a BIM model, revit is NOT a 3d modeling tool. You can do 3d models in AutoCAD.

When using revit, you are actually building the building inside the computer. The components of the building have its own properties. Like the wall has wall properties, the windows have window properties.

In AutoCAD u can draw a square and that square and be a wall or a floor or a window, but in revit you have to define what is that square.
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 10 2014, 10:25 PM)
agreed. our main weakness as compared to singapore is BIM in malaysia is not coming from the top. in singapore, they made it the industry regulation to use BIM for all projects, and those without it will greatly suffer.

so far most firms i visited as part of students' industrial placement use revit as BIM authoring only, but not much else beyond that. even that is quite beneficial to the offices, as an architect can now work with less technical assistants, which means less people on the payroll yet the yield is higher as a project can be completed in less time.

i used to work freelance in a small group for 2 years, and it was pretty hectic, i had to drop it. but now i'm picking it up again, with a bungalow-sized projects done alone in a matter of days rather than weeks.
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Same situation over at my side. Architects mostly use it for clash detection only. That's like 10% of what BIM is capable of.

Ehhhhh. Other countries those with BIM knowledge are earning big bucks but in Malaysia this skill set is like worthless haha.
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QUOTE(WindDragon @ Dec 10 2014, 02:36 PM)
Same situation over at my side. Architects mostly use it for clash detection only. That's like 10% of what BIM is capable of.

Ehhhhh. Other countries those with BIM knowledge are earning big bucks but in Malaysia this skill set is like worthless haha.
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well, being revit instructor pays quite well, so i'm not complaining tongue.gif
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QUOTE(WindDragon @ Dec 10 2014, 02:30 PM)
Revit is for creating a BIM model, revit is NOT a 3d modeling tool. You can do 3d models in AutoCAD.

When using revit, you are actually building the building inside the computer. The components of the building have its own properties. Like the wall has wall properties, the windows have window properties.

In AutoCAD u can draw a square and that square and be a wall or a floor or a window, but in revit you have to define what is that square.
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i was explaining to him how people with prominent 3D background finds revit harder to learn as compared to those who dont. this is due to their comfort and familiarity of the other 3D modelling software, particularly sketchup.
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 10 2014, 10:39 PM)
i was explaining to him how people with prominent 3D background finds revit harder to learn as compared to those who dont. this is due to their comfort and familiarity of the other 3D modelling software, particularly sketchup.
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Hahha we hijack this thread become revit discussion already.

Ehhhh...a lot big developer companies ask me look for people who know BIM. Maybe u can recommend people haha.

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