All Sifus,

I just get my new house keys and the developer only give me 3 days to survey the new house and report the faulty and now left 2 days. My father go to wash the house and found out water are stuck at 4 toilets cannot move out.

All sifus, please let me know what need to be check in this short period.

Thanks

Check the working wiring, that you can check...don't try funny stuff if you don't know....later I kene blame causing you shock....

That is one thing I usually check..sometime they hentam the wiring...have to be careful.

is your Property bought under the HDA.

If the answer is Yes, then the defect liability period is 18-mths and u can give notice of defects anytime during this 18-mths

So the Developer is BS you - but advice not to start any renovation until all major defects have been fixed

Please give name of Project / Developer

No yet apply TnB how to check ? any other thing need to check and checklist items usually people do?

Some old post about checklist for new property defect.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/385900/all

cfa28 sifu is right

most property cover 18months start from the day u collect the key.

u can complaint to their maintenance or customer service dept

not really if its a subsale from developer retain unit and it will be lock, stock and barrel

hence important to ask if the unit is purchased under HDA.

Xianmantoa...please elaborate what type of property you bought. You offered very little info on your new home.

if its SOVO/SOFO...its an entirely different story. No tnb n water supply yet before key collection? I worried for you.

subsale agreement also using back the HDA standard

u mean those balance units or developer reserved unit not entitled 18 month maintenance ?

peri gor pls enlighten me

under HDA guidelines, developer is allow for VP eventhough water meter or tnb meter were not installed. Its under clause "when the connection is ready for utility services"

Nothing to worry about. Only under perform developer taking such advantages.

Schedule G & H is for under construction properties only

If Property has been completed with CCC, no need to use Schedule G & H anymore but tailored made SPA, similar to sub-sale.

its treat as sub sale, why would developer entertain you for this?

says VP for project Jan 2014, then DLP is until June 2015

but if developer release its unit says on June 2014 due to good market demand, u think the developer will continues giving 18 months dlp until dec 2015?

mostly in market giving 1 to 2 weeks.

as long as TS is 1st hand owner, the defect liability clauses still applied.

but a lot of developers dont recognised the defect liability of 2 years once the 1st hand owner has subsaled to new buyer.

they encouraged 1st owner to file in the defect list before handover...or some reputable developers do "help" subsale buyer for one round after receiving key...but not to the full 2 years.

I dun know if legally developers are responsible for defects if the house has been changed hand...

developer copy paste the SPA agreement. not need tailor made.

even when you want to sell off your prop now to another buyer, new lawyer also using back your same SPA copy to make a new one, they dont tailor made. We all enjoy kopi and pasta

Not really, no developer would dare to risk its reputation to alter a purchaser DLP. The architect integrity will put on stake too.

I bought 2 double storey 2 years ago just got my keys, the water meter is installed and tnb yet to apply, developer ask to apply the tnb myself. This morning my father go and check the water are stuck at all toilet when we start cleaning, that why I am wonder what need to check dun know got any hidden stuff that I miss out,and this developer pass me a complaints form and need to send back to them within 3 days, if not they say wont entertain. I can say the finishing is very very bad ... dun seem a new house

if its a new house, you have 2 years to file defects.

you need to mark every single defect lioa.....

looks like you wont be able to move in until the major defects are rectified. Summore you need to apply for TNB to have power channeled in. you cant do reno also....

honestly this is different btw buying from reputable developers vs non reputable developers.

Please give more speciifc details on your property.

The way u say, it does not look like a HDA property cos one of conditions for VP with CCC is with water and electricity ready for connection.

yes, u have to apply the tnb meter yourself. appoint a electrician as runner to speed up ur application. the developer had released his responsible to this project. This is very common problem for project in other state.

You should be happy that developer still giving u final chance to lodge in defect even after 2 years later. bersyukurlah

even under HAD, the clause still apply.

dont give wrong advise.

u still can do reno even with no TNB electricity.

for all the properties (that I bought and my friends bought), when VP was given, the water and TNB meter was alreadt installed.

In fact like 3 mths before VP, Developer send notice to ask buyers to pay Water / TNB Deposit and fill up the necessary forms.

This case, advice TS to ask HBA - National House Buyers Association for help

info@hba.org.my

once you started reno, it will becoming more difficult to claim yr defect list.......

sure, only reputable developer will ensure all meter installed before VP.

One of my project even having complication to get hold TNB meters due to shortfall of TNB power juice. We have prepare ourself for VP without meter to avoid back fire LAD, but luckily.........

reno doesnt void your DLP. its only need justification between both parties

It is always adviseable only to start reno after all major defects have been identified and rectified to avoid Developer assigning the blame that the reno caused the defects

So this is the minor finding, just the major one is the item (5), dun know which stupid fellows pour all the cement into the pipe and block all the water flowing down.. The rest I guess I can do it and ask someone to fixed it.

1. water leaking at sink.
2. all the door knob are rust (master room, room 1, room 2 and room 3, main door, store room)
3. Door at room 1 are cracked.
4. water flow is stuck at all 3 toilets at 2 floor, the pipe are block by cement.
5. Handle at ladder are start rusting.
5. Window frame is cover with cement
6. toilet and 2 room water pressure is slow.
7. Fagus and water mark on the wall (dining room and master room).

all these are very minor defects except the choked underground piping

i got your point, Peri gor

what do u think if market demand no good, will developer give 18 months maintenance also for subsales unit ?

nope, the contractor cant survive 18 months without being paid. defect rectification is a "losses" to them

Thats why when time is bad in year 2008, SP setia is the one who initiated 18 + 18 DLP, im one of the main contractor there, and this stupid concept had damaged our financial badly.

learn something from here
good

main con already hardly survive, imagine those sub cons with the main con, die standing.

thats why i dont ever tender SP works anymore.

peri kor, i thought it was an industry norm for contractors to already mark up 10% to 15% for the DLP

So, if the cost is only RM100, contractor will quote RM110 to RM115 so that they collect additional cash upfront while waiting for DLP

In fact some contractor already forsee not being paid after DLP and mark up even higher.

Not the case anymore

check all the pipe, saluran, lights, electrical points, cracks.

for the tiles, bring guli and roll in on the floor. if got air you can hear the difference in sound. sooner or later it will explode if not replaced.

Check the handwork - painting, door installation, piping, joints, etc and make sure everything is good - esp painting. Some contractors did not paint it level - some place thinner than the other.

Check all the keys for door is correct. check the ceiling for leakage.

anyhow, u buy from developer with waranty. Just claim if got any problem later, as long as the problem is not caused by your own renovation.

18 + 18 DLP is between SP setia and house owner right ?
they (SP setia) need to pay for the contractor to fix those defects,

18 + 18 was their marketing strategy to attract more buyers, how come ask contractor to bear the cost of repairing ?

no bro, too many fluctuation cost and inflation cost happening. 10% to 15% can become negative in most cases.

fuel hike, material hike, manpower hike, tnb bill hike, water bill hike, wastage on site by incompetent workers, thief in site, changes of contract by developer, changes of design by developer, under quote, pro long construction time, bad site management and etc.

all these will affect the small marginal of profit estimated. somemore another 5% retained in contract by developer.

Not easy to survive as main con or sub con

there are no developer in malaysia will pay main con for defects rectification. If main con dont rectify, developer will forfeit the main con 2.5% contract amount.

You see the game? main con is like a hostile.

Tot contractor earns a lot tim.....

yalor yalor,

i saw developer play the whole game
hmmm

no 7 doesn't look good, it may mean there is water leak through from outside due to heavy rain these days. check where is the water mark and fungal growth, if it's near to windows, it could be window frame sealant not applied properly. if on the ceiling and it's a 1 storey house, you need to check if roof/ ceiling is leaking. try to go and sit inside the house one day when heavy rain and see if you can spot any leaks. if you have any good contractor friend, do pay him so tipsi to come with you inspect the house.


This post has been edited by corleone74: Dec 8 2014, 08:15 PM

Just check if my developer still not fixed my house, then what is my next step. Did ask the renovation guy to check they need to quote me 5k to fixed the water leaking.

kesian, no reply.

ok. lets assume u bought this new house since new project launch and u are entitle 24 months DLP

With the reno quo in hand, write a reminder letter to developer and cc to stakeholder lawyer and architect

Demand action or reply within 7 days. If 7 days expired no action nor reply.

Proceed the reno at own cost. then issue the bill to your stakeholder later.

Make sure your stakeholder is aware of this.

The lawyer will reimburse you the amount according to invoice from the 2.5% due to the developer upon the issuance of CMGD by Architect.

Always refer to your SPA in hand. step by step is there for you to refer.

I am staying literally nearby the 8th & Stellar and from what I see it's still covered with the green net and the basement still like in construction. My sister bought one unit and she received notes from Chin Hin to fill in the TnB form and the Sales Agent told her that the project expected to complete in Q1. Which make me worries and from what I see that the building from far from complete, if even it complete then more likely it is a rush job.

- Please ignored previous post as I wrongly reply on different post -

Check waterproofing by sealing the floor trap too