Anyone here tasted honda civic fb top speed here?thanks.
Honda Civic fb top speed?, Anyone know that?
Honda Civic fb top speed?, Anyone know that?
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Dec 3 2014, 01:56 AM, updated 12y ago
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Anyone here tasted honda civic fb top speed here?thanks.
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Dec 3 2014, 08:22 AM
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Give the gear ratios, tire size and engine spec for torque/hp with RPM and you can easily calculate it.
That will be the theoretical max speed, if you have the power you can reach the speed. It's quite accurate to real life. |
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QUOTE(unitron @ Dec 3 2014, 08:40 AM) Give the gear ratios, tire size and engine spec for torque/hp with RPM and you can easily calculate it. You should ask him if it's possible or theoretical?That will be the theoretical max speed, if you have the power you can reach the speed. It's quite accurate to real life. Anyways, whatever it can do. It's not something everyone can hold onto for the entire length of the NSE or something like that. It is quite irrelevant and most of the time there won't be enough road in city centre to get to that top speed... The last few tenth's above 150~160 would most probably take an eternity to reach. That being said, it should be quite high because i encountered some kind "let me through" even by a City (GM3) while getting about at 160. So, the Civic should even be better than that logically speaking and assuming there is still more left in that City to explore. |
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213 km/h for FD and FB with R18A engine
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QUOTE(888jamesleu888 @ Dec 3 2014, 02:54 PM) ![]() If you look at the tested times in the Table above, you would notice that the Honda Civic 2.0 is slower than the Toyota Altis 2.0 for 0-100km/h, but if 80-120km/h, the Honda Civic 2.0 is faster than Toyota Altis 2.0. So to your question which is more powerful, it depends on what speed you are looking at. If acceleration from standstill, the Altis is more powerful. If accelerating from mid-speed, the Civic is more powerful. Top speed, no comment, but usually top speed is overrated. Effortless acceleration at any given speed is more useful to gauge the performance or power of any vehicle. This post has been edited by Dwango: Dec 3 2014, 03:09 PM |
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why does the top speed of a Civic matter?
No one is ever gonna reach that anyway, even if they want to, it would take ages and a very very very long empty road to do it. Not to mention it has to be dead straight, or accidents might occur. so what's the point? |
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You will be lucky if you have the stretch of long roads, seen an FD2 hitting >240km/h....around 243 and very slowly climbing. Not sure about the FD1
Civic FD Type R can hit around 260km/h-270km/h This post has been edited by shinjite: Dec 3 2014, 04:49 PM |
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Dec 3 2014, 04:45 PM) why does the top speed of a Civic matter? Syiok sendiri.No one is ever gonna reach that anyway, even if they want to, it would take ages and a very very very long empty road to do it. Not to mention it has to be dead straight, or accidents might occur. so what's the point? You cannot fully utilize the capabilities of an iphone, why own it? Syiok sendiri. |
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 3 2014, 03:08 PM) ![]() ... Top speed, no comment, but usually top speed is overrated. Effortless acceleration at any given speed is more useful to gauge the performance or power of any vehicle. QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 3 2014, 04:48 PM) You will be lucky if you have the stretch of long roads, seen an FD2 hitting >240km/h....around 243 and very slowly climbing. Not sure about the FD1 Well note that most of the time speedo reading is overstated and can be as much as 10kph over the actual speed.Civic FD Type R can hit around 260km/h-270km/h I know someone who had reached 260 on his FD2R but his one was already modified to make about 30-35% more power than stock. Even so that was on the speedometer reading which is overstated most of the time, and the highway he tested got downhill some more. So I doubt bone stock FD2R can go so fast. QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Dec 3 2014, 06:08 PM) Count yourself Not just Honda but with many other cars as well, especially those that have 6 speed (so top speed is actually attainable using 5th). But for older AT with only 4 speed, many reach top speed at the 4th gear.Typically Honda AT car are geared to hit maximum speed at maximum rpm of 2nd last gear |
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 3 2014, 04:48 PM) You will be lucky if you have the stretch of long roads, seen an FD2 hitting >240km/h....around 243 and very slowly climbing. Not sure about the FD1 Seriously FD2 can hit >240km/h with only 150+ horsepower? Even stock Golf GTI with 2.0 Turbo 200+ HP tops out around that speed..Civic FD Type R can hit around 260km/h-270km/h |
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 3 2014, 07:47 PM) Well note that most of the time speedo reading is overstated and can be as much as 10kph over the actual speed. I know someone who had reached 260 on his FD2R but his one was already modified to make about 30-35% more power than stock. Even so that was on the speedometer reading which is overstated most of the time, and the highway he tested got downhill some more. So I doubt bone stock FD2R can go so fast. Most of them are limited by their gear ratios after modifying their engines |
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 3 2014, 10:45 PM) Seriously FD2 can hit >240km/h with only 150+ horsepower? Even stock Golf GTI with 2.0 Turbo 200+ HP tops out around that speed.. Don't know what is FD2 but I don't think the Civic 2.0 can even touch 230km/h with a horsepower of 155PS. I would expect the top speed of the Civic 2.0 to be around 215km/h, perhaps touching 220km/h on a downhill stretch of road. If the car is modified with some turbo kit then perhaps it can go above 240km/h. |
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Cannot hit 215km/hr la.
It can hit about 206 - 210km/hr. This is for both Civic FB1.8 and FB2.0. This is the R series SOHC engine we're talking about. Got turbo also will be a soft boost setup for this car. I've seen the boost range between 0.4 to 0.52 bars but nothing higher. |
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Even a 3 series only tops out at 220-230. This Civic so good sia.
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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Dec 4 2014, 09:29 AM) Don't know what is FD2 but I don't think the Civic 2.0 can even touch 230km/h with a horsepower of 155PS. I would expect the top speed of the Civic 2.0 to be around 215km/h, perhaps touching 220km/h on a downhill stretch of road. 8th gen Civic 1.8 is the FD, 2.0L is FD2If the car is modified with some turbo kit then perhaps it can go above 240km/h. |
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 3 2014, 10:45 PM) Seriously FD2 can hit >240km/h with only 150+ horsepower? Even stock Golf GTI with 2.0 Turbo 200+ HP tops out around that speed.. Exaggerated claim only. Some just love to dream with Honta, their motto Power of Dream. Now even Earth Dream engine. All kept dreaming in imaginative world. In real world top speed for stock original:Civic 1.8 - 197km/h Civic 2.0 - 201km/h Lancer 2.0GT '2009 stock 220km/h (max) When loaded with cargo, acceleration and ability to go uphill also deteriorated badly compared to Altis, Forte, Focus. Lost in terms of engine strength & gear strength. Modified Civic especially with big exhaust tends to lose top speed further. This post has been edited by jayraptor: Dec 4 2014, 11:07 PM |
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 4 2014, 09:07 AM) QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 4 2014, 09:11 AM) Best is to just use the speed calculator and get the theoretical speed as reference Most of them are limited by their gear ratios after modifying their engines QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Dec 4 2014, 09:29 AM) Don't know what is FD2 but I don't think the Civic 2.0 can even touch 230km/h with a horsepower of 155PS. I would expect the top speed of the Civic 2.0 to be around 215km/h, perhaps touching 220km/h on a downhill stretch of road. Long gearing does not mean it can reach those speeds! The engine does not have enough power to push the car's weight and fight aero drag to reach top rpm at top gear. Based on top speed calculator, my ordinary sedan which only has 200+hp theoretically can reach 330kph in 6th @ redline! If that so, then my car can match those Ferraris/Lambos already. Impossible right? but in reality my car is only proven to have reached 240+ meaning the engine cannot go anywhere near the redline rpm in 6th (btw the top speed of my car can only be reached using 5th, not 6th as the 6th gear cannot sustain it). Therefore I seriously doubt the FD2 can even reach higher than 220 in real flat surface. After modification is a different story though coz it depends on how much additional power you get. Btw I'm talking about true speed, not overstated speedo readings. (for example if my car speedo is showing 180kph, actual speed is still only about 170).If the car is modified with some turbo kit then perhaps it can go above 240km/h. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Dec 4 2014, 11:06 PM) Exaggerated claim only. Some just love to dream with Honta, their motto Power of Dream. Now even Earth Dream engine. All kept dreaming in imaginative world. In real world top speed for stock original: Higher a bit la, where got so low.Civic 1.8 - 197km/h Civic 2.0 - 201km/h Lancer 2.0GT '2009 stock 220km/h (max) When loaded with cargo, acceleration and ability to go uphill also deteriorated badly compared to Altis, Forte, Focus. Lost in terms of engine strength & gear strength. Modified Civic especially with big exhaust tends to lose top speed further. [attachmentid=4245836] 1.8s also can hit about 207km/hr. There's a few other examples posted by other owners in their FB group page. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 5 2014, 08:22 AM) Higher a bit la, where got so low. Steady hands that guy got there. If the 1.8 can achieve 207km/h, I suppose the 2.0 would be able to hit up to 212-215km/h.[attachmentid=4245836] 1.8s also can hit about 207km/hr. There's a few other examples posted by other owners in their FB group page. |
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 5 2014, 08:30 AM) Steady hands that guy got there. If the 1.8 can achieve 207km/h, I suppose the 2.0 would be able to hit up to 212-215km/h. It cuts around 208km/hr - 210km/hr and it takes a long time to reach that kind of speed. So you need to be on LEKAS, LATAR or some other long stretch straight highway. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 5 2014, 09:45 AM) It cuts around 208km/hr - 210km/hr and it takes a long time to reach that kind of speed. So you need to be on LEKAS, LATAR or some other long stretch straight highway. Looks like they changed the FB1 gear ratio or something, because FD1 I had seen 213 km/h top speed before it got cuts off. At first I thought same engine and gearbox, the newer model should have at least same top speed. |
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 5 2014, 12:10 AM) Long gearing does not mean it can reach those speeds! The engine does not have enough power to push the car's weight and fight aero drag to reach top rpm at top gear. Based on top speed calculator, my ordinary sedan which only has 200+hp theoretically can reach 330kph in 6th @ redline! If that so, then my car can match those Ferraris/Lambos already. Impossible right? but in reality my car is only proven to have reached 240+ meaning the engine cannot go anywhere near the redline rpm in 6th (btw the top speed of my car can only be reached using 5th, not 6th as the 6th gear cannot sustain it). Therefore I seriously doubt the FD2 can even reach higher than 220 in real flat surface. After modification is a different story though coz it depends on how much additional power you get. Btw I'm talking about true speed, not overstated speedo readings. (for example if my car speedo is showing 180kph, actual speed is still only about 170). Your ordinary sedan? You meant your Mark X? |
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QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Dec 5 2014, 10:19 AM) Looks like they changed the FB1 gear ratio or something, because FD1 I had seen 213 km/h top speed before it got cuts off. At first I thought same engine and gearbox, the newer model should have at least same top speed. The DOHC K series engine is by far a much better engine compared to the SOHC R series engine.Seriously, this generation Civic is quite a disappointment. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 5 2014, 08:22 AM) Higher a bit la, where got so low. Most 2.0 can go above 200km/h but the plateau is around 210km/h or so. Usually the horsepower figures will determine the top speed. With 155PS, nothing much to shout about. [attachmentid=4245836] 1.8s also can hit about 207km/hr. There's a few other examples posted by other owners in their FB group page. Fair enough that even 220km/h may be a far-fetched claim for the Civic 2.0. |
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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Dec 5 2014, 04:15 PM) Most 2.0 can go above 200km/h but the plateau is around 210km/h or so. Usually the horsepower figures will determine the top speed. With 155PS, nothing much to shout about. 155PS is paper.Fair enough that even 220km/h may be a far-fetched claim for the Civic 2.0. whp is about 115 - 130 (1.8 - 2.0), there are dyno figures available for the 9th gen R18a and R20a Civic. |
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Huh...no vios or myvi fan boys come and boast their god car can tapao this civic meh....hmmm...
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The K20Z 2L roughly has 125-130whp and 15kg of torque
If it is not for the 5 AT, expect even more torque, probably 17kg |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 5 2014, 02:17 PM) The DOHC K series engine is by far a much better engine compared to the SOHC R series engine. K series is "true" iVTEC. You have infinitely variable valve timing and stepped VTEC cam phasing. R series are "intelligently" activating VTEC.Seriously, this generation Civic is quite a disappointment. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 5 2014, 08:22 AM) Higher a bit la, where got so low. Like I said before, speedo readings are mostly overstated by as much as 7-10kph! So don't simply trust your speedo, in reality that might still be below 200kph or just around low 200kph.[attachmentid=4245836] 1.8s also can hit about 207km/hr. There's a few other examples posted by other owners in their FB group page. QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 5 2014, 10:39 AM) Yes. |
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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Dec 4 2014, 09:29 AM) Don't know what is FD2 but I don't think the Civic 2.0 can even touch 230km/h with a horsepower of 155PS. I would expect the top speed of the Civic 2.0 to be around 215km/h, perhaps touching 220km/h on a downhill stretch of road. If the car is modified with some turbo kit then perhaps it can go above 240km/h. QUOTE(jayraptor @ Dec 4 2014, 11:06 PM) Exaggerated claim only. Some just love to dream with Honta, their motto Power of Dream. Now even Earth Dream engine. All kept dreaming in imaginative world. In real world top speed for stock original: 220kph fd2 achievable on stock. Done it on NS highway. Scout around youtube, one guy did 230kph on MEX. But his engine temp climbed at such speeds.Civic 1.8 - 197km/h Civic 2.0 - 201km/h Lancer 2.0GT '2009 stock 220km/h (max) When loaded with cargo, acceleration and ability to go uphill also deteriorated badly compared to Altis, Forte, Focus. Lost in terms of engine strength & gear strength. Modified Civic especially with big exhaust tends to lose top speed further. |
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 5 2014, 08:30 AM) Steady hands that guy got there. If the 1.8 can achieve 207km/h, I suppose the 2.0 would be able to hit up to 212-215km/h. yes i think so. the FB 2.0 is capable of doing 215 or maybe 220.i had seen it doing 210 or something on seremban plus h/way. we were side by side and rolling from 200, he was in front of me, his acceleration is better bcoz he is lighter, i was heavier (the car & me, plus my wife too) but i managed to overtake it at 210 with my 4B11, and then i was doing 215 all the way to senawang toll. i think he can push the car more than that, it is just that he needs more road. longer stretch. i have done 220 with the 4B11. that is the max. out of breath already for 155ps with almost 13xxkg weight. |
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QUOTE(mfa_145 @ Dec 7 2014, 11:24 AM) yes i think so. the FB 2.0 is capable of doing 215 or maybe 220. Sorry, what is 4B11? Civic 1.8? i had seen it doing 210 or something on seremban plus h/way. we were side by side and rolling from 200, he was in front of me, his acceleration is better bcoz he is lighter, i was heavier (the car & me, plus my wife too) but i managed to overtake it at 210 with my 4B11, and then i was doing 215 all the way to senawang toll. i think he can push the car more than that, it is just that he needs more road. longer stretch. i have done 220 with the 4B11. that is the max. out of breath already for 155ps with almost 13xxkg weight. You did 215km/h all the way until Senawang toll? Salute you in that you can maintain 215km/h for so long. The fastest speed I've recorded was about 210km/h, and that was for about 2 to 3 seconds before I went down to 180km/h(suddenly 180km/h feels slow). Didn't go for higher top speed on the Ford Focus as the main focus for me is to breach 200km/h, that's it. For cars with low horsepower, they will need more time to reach top speed and hence a longer stretch of road. For cars with higher horsepower, cars with more powerful engines, it would be easy as acceleration from 160km/h to >200km/h would be quicker. |
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 7 2014, 12:42 PM) Sorry, what is 4B11? Civic 1.8? 4b11 engine use at inspira/lancer 2.0.bro,u r using focus?im test drive focus,civic fd2,civic fb 2.0 and lancer/inspira 2.0,im feel tat focus is most powerful among in its class.handling oso best in its class.You did 215km/h all the way until Senawang toll? Salute you in that you can maintain 215km/h for so long. The fastest speed I've recorded was about 210km/h, and that was for about 2 to 3 seconds before I went down to 180km/h(suddenly 180km/h feels slow). Didn't go for higher top speed on the Ford Focus as the main focus for me is to breach 200km/h, that's it. For cars with low horsepower, they will need more time to reach top speed and hence a longer stretch of road. For cars with higher horsepower, cars with more powerful engines, it would be easy as acceleration from 160km/h to >200km/h would be quicker. I wonder if compare 0 to 100,civic fd2,civic fb 2.0 and lancer 2.0,which wil be most fastest to hit 100?lancer is heavier than civic around 70kg.so maybe civic is more advantage in pick up. |
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 7 2014, 01:12 PM) 4b11 engine use at inspira/lancer 2.0.bro,u r using focus?im test drive focus,civic fd2,civic fb 2.0 and lancer/inspira 2.0,im feel tat focus is most powerful among in its class.handling oso best in its class. Ok thanks. So the 4B11 engine is actually the engine in the Proton Inspira and Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0. Yes, I own the Ford Focus. As for 0-100km/h acceleration times, you may refer to the Table in page 1 of this thread. The Thais have tested the Civic 2.0, Lancer 2.0 and Focus 2.0. They did 5 runs of 0-100km/h and took the average out of the 5 to get the time for the 0-100km/h dash. The Focus came out the fastest, followed by Civic and then the Lancer. I wonder if compare 0 to 100,civic fd2,civic fb 2.0 and lancer 2.0,which wil be most fastest to hit 100?lancer is heavier than civic around 70kg.so maybe civic is more advantage in pick up. What is the difference between Civic FD2 and Civic FB 2.0? |
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 8 2014, 08:26 AM) Ok thanks. So the 4B11 engine is actually the engine in the Proton Inspira and Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0. Yes, I own the Ford Focus. As for 0-100km/h acceleration times, you may refer to the Table in page 1 of this thread. The Thais have tested the Civic 2.0, Lancer 2.0 and Focus 2.0. They did 5 runs of 0-100km/h and took the average out of the 5 to get the time for the 0-100km/h dash. The Focus came out the fastest, followed by Civic and then the Lancer. fd2=dohc k20 engine. fb2=sohc r20 engine.What is the difference between Civic FD2 and Civic FB 2.0? btw, for 155ps or hp? (correct me)..220 is possible ah. it's just a matter of how fast it can reach that speed. even for 1.6thp engine..easy to reach 190-200(no sweat)..but hard to get 215-220 (top speed from manufacturer). |
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From what I know
7th Gen Civic ET1 (2.0, K20A3) = top speed ~210 km/h <--- speed limiter, gearing allow excess of 250 km/h 8th Gen Civic FD2 (2.0, K20Z2) = top speed ~220 km/h <--- engine power limited, gearing allow excess of 250 km/h 8th Gen Civic FD2R (2.0, K20A) = top speed ~270 km/h <--- gearing limited 9th Gen Civic FB2 (2.0, R20A) = top speed, should be ~220km/h also <--- engine power limited, gearing allow more |
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QUOTE(theanswer @ Dec 8 2014, 09:14 AM) fd2=dohc k20 engine. fb2=sohc r20 engine. Yup.1.6thp engine can easy reach 180 to 200.from 80 to 160,1.6thp wil be more faster to reach than 2.0 na due to turbocharge.but top speed is 2.0 na more higher due to displacement.btw, for 155ps or hp? (correct me)..220 is possible ah. it's just a matter of how fast it can reach that speed. even for 1.6thp engine..easy to reach 190-200(no sweat)..but hard to get 215-220 (top speed from manufacturer). |
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QUOTE(theanswer @ Dec 8 2014, 09:14 AM) fd2=dohc k20 engine. fb2=sohc r20 engine. 1.6-litre engines, the top speed from manufacturer is usually below 200km/h. Usually indicated as 195km/h thereabouts but in real life may squeeze another 5+/- km/h. btw, for 155ps or hp? (correct me)..220 is possible ah. it's just a matter of how fast it can reach that speed. even for 1.6thp engine..easy to reach 190-200(no sweat)..but hard to get 215-220 (top speed from manufacturer). As for Civic 2.0, horsepower is 155PS. |
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 10 2014, 08:32 AM) 1.6-litre engines, the top speed from manufacturer is usually below 200km/h. Usually indicated as 195km/h thereabouts but in real life may squeeze another 5+/- km/h. Actual Dyno figures for the R20a (Civic 2.0) As for Civic 2.0, horsepower is 155PS. ![]() Actual power really more like 130ish whp. This post has been edited by zweimmk: Dec 10 2014, 10:19 AM |
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QUOTE(unitron @ Dec 10 2014, 12:02 PM) Most of them have some minor mods like changing to K&N air filter or using open pod. The stock car is represented by the green line.Morale of the story: This dyno proved to us that all the so called downpipe modification (removing the cat-con), using open pod/cold air intake virtually yielded zero to little improvement over a stock car. In fact, some cars even produced lower numbers than the stock car. Car modification is a technical science! |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 10 2014, 12:30 PM) Most of them have some minor mods like changing to K&N air filter or using open pod. The stock car is represented by the green line. All I/H/E modification will need re-tune of the air fuel and even ignition, valve timing maps to yield results.Morale of the story: This dyno proved to us that all the so called downpipe modification (removing the cat-con), using open pod/cold air intake virtually yielded zero to little improvement over a stock car. In fact, some cars even produced lower numbers than the stock car. Car modification is a technical science! Otherwise the engine will follow the factory maps, so you won't be able to realise the gain. So engine management is the first and most important mod IMO. This post has been edited by unitron: Dec 10 2014, 01:52 PM |
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QUOTE(unitron @ Dec 10 2014, 01:50 PM) All I/H/E modification will need re-tune of the air fuel and even ignition, valve timing maps to yield results. Which don't really exist for the R series engine. So, performance wise, this car is pretty much a dead end, unless you don't mind with piggybacks and going through the forced induction route.Otherwise the engine will follow the factory maps, so you won't be able to realise the gain. So engine management is the first and most important mod IMO. |
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tested suprima s on lpt2...more than 200km/h...
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 12 2014, 01:34 PM) That should not be the case. I've seen some K20Z stock dynos. Although the horsepower is similar, the torque output is easily about 10nm more than R20a. . The one that I have seen doesn't say so....it only gets around 15.5kg-m at the wheels (Dynojet) which translate close to what the R20A gets but the WHP is lower about 125PS.But all these are just numbers as reference, by right Dynojets should report close to the same figures with a 3% variance. What you have seen with your eyes, might not be the same as what others seen with theirs. This post has been edited by shinjite: Dec 12 2014, 02:43 PM |
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Top speed is nothing without pickup power, Pickup is nothing when ur car have worse handling, Handling is nothing when u got worse driver, Got it? ktek liked this post
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Dec 13 2014, 02:19 AM) Suprima S 2013 user here, fully stock (so far Stock preve/suprima cfe can achieve 210kmh++.alot of owner already tried include me.but im not so care about for top speed.im more concern the acceleration.my cfe get 9sec from 0 to 100 and 80 to 160 around 13-14sec.tis is quite nice figure for cfe engine which produce 138hp/205nm torque.Achieved 207km/h few weeks back. But I think that's the maximum. Few owner did achieve 210+ if not mistaken. |
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Lastime only manage to do 180 on honda city, pretty quickly..
Now no more play high speed, just acceleration n handling only lo...future ahead quite promising for me LOL Idk why ppl so interested in top end speed, hardly tells much about a car performance...more importantly is how fast n safe u get to it...don have to wait to 200 i smoke u somewhere at 80-160 oredy QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 12 2014, 03:40 PM) Top speed is nothing without pickup power, Best comment imo d^_^bPickup is nothing when ur car have worse handling, Handling is nothing when u got worse driver, Got it? This post has been edited by wayfeel: Dec 13 2014, 02:50 PM |
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Dec 13 2014, 02:48 PM) Lastime only manage to do 180 on honda city, pretty quickly.. Totally agree wat u said.in reality world,the acceleration from 60 to 160 is more important than top speedNow no more play high speed, just acceleration n handling only lo...future ahead quite promising to me LOL Irdk why ppl so interested in top end speed...more importantly is how fast n safe u get to it...don have to wait to 200 i smoke u somewhere at 120-160 oredy Best comment imo d^_^b |
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i think is 220km/h
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 18 2014, 07:32 PM) old photo inspira 1.8 Is this 1.8-litre car yours? Quite amazing it can reach 219km/h, and your claim that the speed can go up to 230km/h at night time. long time no test,nowadays almost weekly genting photo captured at afternoon time, night time hits around 225 to 230+- soon after secret mod dunno can hit how much Is it modified? |
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 18 2014, 07:32 PM) old photo inspira 1.8 yup...i tested my brother 1.8 R3 inspira got 220km/h, easy...long time no test,nowadays almost weekly genting photo captured at afternoon time, night time hits around 225 to 230+- soon after secret mod dunno can hit how much i bet can do a bit more as proton test driver said can reach 230km/h.... |
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I tested my cousin's Mitsubishi Lancer 1.8 and achieved 223km/h. Piece of cake.
I bet it can do more as a beggar on the street mentioned it can reach till 238km/h. |
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I drove my aunty's Altis 1.8 and hit 225km/h. Surprisingly didn't break a sweat.
I believe it may go beyond 240km/h as Johnny said so. |
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Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv top speed?
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The top speed not important.. How fast ur car can reach the top speed is more important..
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Aug 6 2015, 07:34 PM) You just resurrected an old thread. You can google and find out. From reviews and Youtube videos, the top speed of the Mazda 3 2.0 is 209km/h. Though I would reiterate in my post made last year in that top speed is overrated. When the car is struggling to accelerate at a certain speed, taking a considerably long time to say go from 190km/h to 200km/h+, it makes little sense to keep pushing the car to achieve top speed. |
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165ps but stil 209. hmm
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Aug 7 2015, 03:49 PM) It can go higher, that is just manufacture rating.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pNz-TncFi0 Skip to 1:33, they tested to 218kph with still room to go. |
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Obsession with top speed on Malaysian roads is .......
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QUOTE(rockets @ Aug 7 2015, 04:08 PM) It can go higher, that is just manufacture rating. That Mazda 3 in the video is a different model than the Malaysian one. The transmission is not Automatic but Manual transmission.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pNz-TncFi0 Skip to 1:33, they tested to 218kph with still room to go. |
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QUOTE(rockets @ Aug 7 2015, 04:08 PM) It can go higher, that is just manufacture rating. Check out the review of the unit here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pNz-TncFi0 Skip to 1:33, they tested to 218kph with still room to go. http://www.autoforum.cz/testy-aut/test-maz...-dobe-navzdory/ The manual transmission :- ![]() |
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new gen car nowdays can top >200kmh easily.. gone were the days when 190kmh was fast. lol
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Top speed is not that important unless you're in Authobahn. Acceleration rules.
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Aug 7 2015, 04:37 PM) Depends on what car you are talking about. Even modern cars available on the market today, not all can touch 200km/h, and even cars which can go above 200km/h, not all car do that "easily" but with a lot of struggle and huff and puff, even for some 1.8 or 2.0-litre models. Only those turbocharged cars or the more powerful 2.0, 2.5 or 3.0+ litre models go above 200km/h "rather easily". |
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