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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V66!, Source of low traffic: goo.gl/ZRQcSd

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post Jan 27 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 27 2015, 03:26 PM)
mileage x sampai 1000km lagi... yawn.gif
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bought new car? what discount you gotten if you don't mind? managed to get proton staff price? (rumor flying on them disposing old inspira stocks which are cheaper than the price i've gotten)

i changed my gear oil at around 1700km because hard to shift also.
no point frustrated over gear shifts that takes away the joy in driving smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 27 2015, 03:43 PM)
rm8000 discount + r3 bodykit + free service worth of RM1279
year 2014 inspira
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nice bro got body kit thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 27 2015, 03:53 PM)
anyway, i checked the user manual... stated Dia Queen NEW MULTI GEAR OIL API classification GL-3, SAE 75W-80 for MTF... so using 75w85/ 75w90 is ok also? or use API GL-4?
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GL3/4 are compatible among each other, GL5/6 is not (good example of higher number != better) due to EP (extreme pressure) additives that may harm soft/yellow metals (eg: copper/brass) in synchromesh/synchronizer applications.
EP loaded GL5/GL6 are mainly for non synchromesh transmissions, differentials and so on unless otherwise specified on GL4 compatibility.

i personally recommend the viscosity that manufacturer specified unless on exceptional usage such as high speed for prolonged periods or high track/motorsport usage which higher viscosity is preferred.

something to take note: despite my usages, my watery Red Line MTL (75w80) report came out OK.
i've actually compiled a list of 75w80 GL4 gear oils previous which you're free to search up.

to make your life simpler, it'll be either red line MTL or amsoil synchromesh (i still got 2 additional bottles of MTL so i can't switch to amsoil immediately) for full synthetics
motul is semi syn:
https://www.motul.com/system/product_descri....pdf?1328624012
and very expensive (for being semi anyways)
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post Jan 27 2015, 05:47 PM

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http://paultan.org/2015/01/27/mitsubishi-m...various-models/

too bad i have no interest in replacing my thunder cat logo
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post Jan 27 2015, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(woe.com @ Jan 27 2015, 05:50 PM)
Covered area inside + no ppl interested to see?  laugh.gif
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that applies to the logos outside
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post Jan 28 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(camper_davidyong @ Jan 28 2015, 09:29 AM)
spec require 75w80 you use double the viscosity AND GL6 with EP additives? good luck to your F5MBB
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post Jan 28 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 28 2015, 10:33 AM)
1.8MT owners, wanna ask, is this the MTF that proton will use for service?
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proton either uses that, or mitsubishi diaqueen (or repacked mitsubishi diaqueen).

tranself is mainly for Savvy

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 28 2015, 11:24 AM)
how much is proton selling this per 1L bottle?
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Red Lines? should be in the rm50-60 ish/liter.
i would still highly recommend MTL over the higher viscosity if you're not hard driving your car a lot.
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post Jan 28 2015, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(camper_davidyong @ Jan 28 2015, 12:23 PM)
This is because from Lekas toll to toll, 9 min.
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You go dig my previous post la
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post Jan 28 2015, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 28 2015, 12:36 PM)
MTL is 75w80 GL-4 which is suitable... search online for it, looks like not easy to find this eh? or u know of any shop selling?
how do u relate this to the gear oil u r using? hmm.gif
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Zhapalang Kepong sells all the oils I mentioned

I think he's trying to say he's damn fast la.

But he didn't realize there's someone else that uses super thin according to spec viscosity gear oil that reach Singapore from KL in less than 2 hours and sent said oil to USA laboratories for verification which even those guys said the oil is Ok even after being in a very watery state that's hard to shift after heat /hard driving.

So, lol.
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 28 2015, 01:13 PM)
ok tq...cannot find in his website so thought he aint selling... i found a seller from JB, 4 bottles include postage rm235 smile.gif
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Nice pricing. Btw only need 3 bottle, about 2.5 liters or less required.
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jan 28 2015, 01:39 PM)
Jom genting!
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wa ini bully notworthy.gif

QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jan 28 2015, 01:44 PM)
Standard quote... Top speed berapa
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60 km/h can mou?
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(camper_davidyong @ Jan 28 2015, 02:10 PM)
Well, as per you have said, even when the thin oil is still lab proven to be ok; the very watery state will make it hard to shift after heat/hard driving. There you go.

LOL!!
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point being, there is absolutely no issue using thin viscosity oil, and there is no reason to go for thicker, non compatible specification oils when the thin viscosity oil will do fine.

i personally changed my fluid out because i was going to enter Sepang back in December and i wouldn't want to risk screwing up my gearbox. The oil lab reports came out end of January as i was waiting for my engine oil as well to save on shipping cost.

tldr: good luck on your F5MBB; higher rating, more expensive may not necessarily be better.
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 28 2015, 02:45 PM)
how many km run already since using 75w140?
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no worries running 100k km too id reckon; and gb won't die, synchros die only
supposedly if you rev match damn awesome, no worries if no synchros laugh.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(camper_davidyong @ Jan 28 2015, 03:52 PM)
Hi Boss, I ain't no pro driver. Haven't run at Sepang, Genting and etc. I'm just a local ppl travel from Sban-KL-Sban daily.  What is the point if a lab tells you that this is fine but at your end, after driving hard/hot, the gear becomes hard to shift? It takes away all the fun of driving a stick. It's all about the feel. I change to this gear oil from the OEM ones because just like your case, the gears become harder to shift/not smooth after sprinted driving and this is dangerous because after you exit the Lekas toll heading towards Sban, there is a long sweeping high speed corner and the S'ss Mantin Hill roads. If you stuck in one gear and downshift slower by a bit, hamkachan adi.

FYI, this gear oil is recommended by my rally driver friend to counter this problem. Gear oil performs differently from engine oil. Lower range viscosity doesn't mean better and I know you prefer 0-20W for EO but I'm using Mobil1 5-50. It all depends on driver's driving style (one might prefer to up shift faster while some might prefer to pull until the last rpm) and the type of road one drives in. F1 wont use rally-cross lubricants for example.

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i think you're having some misunderstanding here.
the hard to shift part is only after my KL > Singapore (one time) Singapore > KL (another time)
in which after the oil cooled down, everything returned to normal.

and imho keeping the car over 220km/h for over an hour isn't something one should (or can do) do all the time.
unless you're going to such serious driving (umm, assume you go 220 for 9 minutes at lekas la, that's still not 1 hour ya) you really have no reason to require much thicker viscosity gear oil.

and at the end of the day, i'm trying to point out to you GL6 gear oils are NOT suitable for our F5MBB gear box.
that's the bottom line story thicker or thinner viscosity aside.
Torco themselves have never specifically mentioned their SGO being compatible to soft/yellow metals as well that are friendly for synchronizers.

It's not a matter of lower viscosity or higher viscosity being better or worse.
not even a matter of style or rally or F1.
not even a matter of how fast (or slow) one shifts.
i'm not even a professional driver (i certainly make 0 cents from my track driving) to begin with much less a F1 driver.

It's merely following specifications that Mitsubishi specified . (you know, the guys who spent years/billions in R&D etc and i think they should know their car/parts better than any of us)

another FYI, i'm pretty new in driving manual, and i've sat in low gears oftenly be it lazy or noob to shift, so you can imagine the amount of fuel cuts bouncing off the 7k+ rpm meter point.
Then there's the huge amount of gear grinds i've done to the gearbox and from what the report i've seen, the wear is still surprisingly not as high as expected.

again, higher (or more expensive) does not necessarily mean better.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jan 28 2015, 04:01 PM)
apa bully, i dont even know where is lekas mahhh, thats why ajak kaki go genting loorrr.
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ask people go your second home play, i give him 5 corners max to see your tail lamp hmm.gif
i think after 2 corner i also cannot see your tail lamp jor sad.gif

especially when you've tapau'd Evo x like nothing.
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post Jan 28 2015, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jan 28 2015, 04:18 PM)
wooiii, manade wooo, he give way only la , straight very fast  sweat.gif
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how he give way? you so fast in front of him some more 1 lane road cannot overtake laaaaa
straight fast no use la, enter corner only your tail lamp vanish
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post Jan 28 2015, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(camper_davidyong @ Jan 28 2015, 04:14 PM)
Well, baulk rings is much more cheaper than gears, so why not? After all, the clutch should be the one that will give way first. When that happens, just changed the God-damn baulk rings. The baulk rings ain't expensive, the labour is.
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early preview:
if you don't know how to read, ppm are in microscopic level contained within the oil.
in other words, the wear isn't as high as one may thing:
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and really, if can not change anything be it the synchros or actual gears, why not?
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QUOTE(iguana_tan @ Jan 28 2015, 04:15 PM)
wah, our nzh really yeng tao oh.  icon_idea.gif  haha, telling you all that im not even close to uncle taxi on Genting road... they are kind of smooth driving in & out corner where i cant do it  sad.gif
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just waiting for the day nzh0920 enter Sepang push under 3 minutes where i have failed notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(camper_davidyong @ Jan 28 2015, 04:54 PM)
Well, if you can read, the report says shorter oil runs is better to keep metals low. So, keep changing oils of lower viscosity. Congratulations to your bank balance. It's all about ROI bro. FYI, for wear and tear parts like baulk rings, ppl with common sense will changed the rings as well since they are already changing the clutch. It is just like when you overhaul the engine, you will automatically replace all the oil seals as well as it is just a fraction of the cost. Understand? Chinese saying, already buy chicken, don't so stingy on the kicap.
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ya because i expressed huge concerns over my numerous gear grinds from very noob shifting and the 2 hard shift incidents and the watery gear oil nature.

i've been told that such wear isn't that unusual for harsh usage, being only second oil (i changed out the oil that came with the gearbox at 1700 km)

notice the report ya, only copper is out of the mark, and guess where those are from?
i wouldn't want to imagine using a gear oil with EP additives that would potentially accelerate wear of it laugh.gif

just wondering, do you have part list/price list for the synchros? would be very interested in knowing them.
after all, 80 ppm (not even visible to eye mind you laugh.gif )copper was showed, who knows i'd need to replace them too unsure.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(iguana_tan @ Jan 28 2015, 04:59 PM)
think you also can make it under 3min just that u seem very relax driving nia hahaha
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from outside see relax lo, driver himself very stress/tension la lol...

at least that's what my kaki all said. since i sweat like pig easily, they always said i too kancheong sweat.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(camper_davidyong @ Jan 28 2015, 06:17 PM)
I guess i won't be needing 1 so soon as my gear changes are still smooth like butter. Going strong i guess.  Cheers.
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good la smooth like butter notworthy.gif

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