Only folding bike usable, which is about your budget , still have to add another RM100 would be either Oscar Imagine or Garion. Go for the aluminium models. Just don't go for those Japanese cheap imports as most use coaster brakes!

Try Jimmy at Kimbell Jaya. They have ready stock now. 406 and 451 also available. Not expensive too. Just pay them a visit. I just check my store and I still have the rear single walled rim if you want. I can just replace it. Rear 28 holes. PM me if you want it.

This post has been edited by etigge: Dec 21 2014, 04:27 PM

A fellow forummer brought his Dahon Vybe for moddings. Initially wanted to mod the front first but later I found out that the 7 speed Neos cannot take the slack of the chain when we choose 39T and 13T at the rear. I replaced it with an 8 speed unit and also it cannot handle it so change the hangers as well and I installed an old Sora RD I had in my drawer. So, those who wants to upgrade, you need to upgrade the rear first or upgrade together. So, at present it is a 14 speed bike but later when the hubs are replaced and a 9 speed cassette and shifters are added, it will be 18 speed.

The date chosen is quite busy. I mean the roads. Please be extra careful, especially on the Batu Feringghi stretch which is narrow and heavy traffic. Enjoy your round island

This post has been edited by etigge: Dec 23 2014, 08:40 AM

Never use WD-40 for cleaning the drive train components. If there's rust on static components , like screws or folding mechanisms, it is OK but not on the chains, cassettes and RD. It will wash off every bit of lube and makes fresh lube cannot adhere to the components. Singer oil is too fluid and after a few kilometers it will thin out and dissappear and if you put more, the lube will attract more grit and also splash the lube all over the chain stay, especially the hard to wash part.

I usually use kerosene. Can be bought in Ace Hardware. What I usually do is, put the bike on a rear stand. Then with a brush, I dipped it in kerosene and wash the chain rings, cassette and chain. If the RD and FD are dirty I brush them too. Keep brushing till the old lube comes off. Then hose off gently with water. Then only the soap and brush comes in. Clean the whole bike and then dry it. Only then a fresh lube (I use Finish Line) and dab it link by link.

When you buy the Dahon, they usually have a small bottle of touch up paint included. You can touch up the peeled part with it.

There are many Litepro fakes in Taobao. There's a seat post clamp that I buy, it broke off after 2 rides.

Speed is relative to your performance. If you have the stamina and endurance, it should be OK. Then again the Boardwalk can also be as fast as the Dash if you change the wheelset to 451 as well. But as mentioned , it's relative to your performance as 451 needs more power to pedal than a 406. But that is negated by the smaller width tires that the 451 is shodded with. Advantage of the Dash is the regular geometry of the frame which is stiffer. Bad side is the folding is not so nice. We are talking about folding bikes right and if folding is not a criteria, might as well go for the mini velo.

I have both the Dash (upgraded to 20 speed) and the Dahon Speed P8 (upgraded to 27 speed) and I seem to be using the Dahon Speed more often. It's easier to ride, less effort to ride, more relaxed position and I ride further with it. The Dash is although faster but fast means it tires out faster as well, so long distance is not really good. I tried once riding from Sepang to Tg.Sepat and back, my wrist muscle is really sore after that and that make me use it even less. I even tried selling it off but no takers.

I think you can use both bikes and not sell off the Boardwalk. Much better as you can choose which bike to ride depending on the ride venue.

The SRAM X4 RD is OK if you want to add a double chainring for your setup. But finding a left shifter is going to be hard. You need to buy a pair both left and right. The FD is quite universal, meaning you can use SRAM or Shimano or even Microshift shifters but the rear RD , Shimano needs Shimano RDs and SRAM needs SRAM's RD. So, for yours, if you want to change double chainring, I think it is prudent you get Microshift 8 speed shifters. Then also get the Microshift's FD.

I don't know what other online forum's are saying but I have install 14, 15 , 18 and 20 speed on foldie's without problem. I even installed a 105 Shimano cassette (11/28T largest) on a 16 inch folding bike. The cassette has the same space width regardless if it is road bike or mountain bike, that is it is of the same number of gears. Eg. Shimano 9 speed Deore and the Sora 9 speed cassette are the same width. Only the ratios are different. The road bike uses smaller cassettes for smoother shifting and also road riding don't need such a big ratio difference. Point is, the cassette of both MTB and roadbike can be used if the number of gears are the same.

RD is another subject altogether. Most roadbike have short cage (the part holding the two pulleys on the RD). For smaller difference in ratio, it shifts faster and more accurately. That's why roadbike shifting is crisp. The maximum nowadays is 30T for roadbikes. They can start from 11T or 12T. THose models with 30T also comes with medium length cages to compensate for the chain slack. Mountain bike RD's of course can go to 36T maximum. But the RDs are also mountain bike. The chain length needs to be adjusted carefully though, to take up the slack and the maximum that I have tried is 34T for a 406 wheelset. 451, no problems. But for 8 speed, the max. is 32T only anyway.

Front is always roadbike setup, eg. 52/39T or 53/39 or compacts 50/34 but the rear set up can be mountain or roadbike. You need to prioritize your riding. I have used the SRAM's X5 on my Vigor and Dash before and the rear cassette was 11/34T with SRAM's X5, no problems. But I am using Shimano 105 on the same Dash now as I changed to 451 wheelset , so needs C-brakes (road bike types) and also the faster shifting of the roadbike setup. Cassette is 12/30T and it's more than enough already.

Happy Riding and also " man man lam" Hahahaaa.

This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 4 2015, 07:15 PM

Yes, you can use the 3 speed front shifter for the 2 chainring cranks. You set the limit on the FD and the shift won't go to position 3, that's all. So, you basically only needs the double chainring, the FD and the adapter and off course the extra cable and housing.

Specially for beginners. Check this event out this Saturday. Maybe you can learn the Putrajaya lakeside route so next time you can go and ride on your own or get new kakis to group up and ride together.

New Year new resolution to keep fit?
Got a new bike and don't know where to start?
Want to get started on a new family hobby this year?
Come join us! Kids are welcomed.

A ride organized specially for people new to cycling:
12km loop around the Putrajaya main lake.

Meet up here at the Jalan P2L car park
GPS Co-ordinates
2.921576, 101.683969
Meet up time: 7.00am
Roll out time: 7.30am
Finish time: 9.30am

Pak Adib, I have make you co-host so that you could invite others that you think would be interested.

*Helmets are compulsory*

https://www.facebook.com/events/77051643970...ry_type=regular

Yes, but that's my wife's mini velo. The Performer is rigid chromoly frame and very light. After chnaging to Ultegra groupset, it is below 9 kg. Originally it was a straight bar and I change it to a bull horn bar or what they call TT bar. Compared to the Dash, the Performer is a better ride but Dash is foldable but Performer is not. The Dash is an X20 now and I use it for more shorter and tarmac rides. Long distance, my wrist pains after 80 km. For distances longer than that or multiple day riding, I use my Dahon Speed. Orang tua cannot always bend the back bone lah! Too back breaking to ride hunch down all the time.

It seems the Dahon Dash is priced near 3K now and they have reverted back to C-brakes and 451 wheelset.

Many foldies uses road bike rear derailleurs. I am just suprised that someone said that it might hit out of alignment All RDs will go out of alignment sooner or later. The chain might elongate, the hanger might bend, the cables have stretched, so many reasons. That's why one should learn to adjust the RDs. Or send to a bike shop to adjust. Probably Brompton owners said that statement, because Bromptons use Sturmey Archer internal hub gear (which off course don't run out of alignment )which I find bothersome as it uses no quick release. You have to carry a 15mm spanner on your rides as you need it if there's a puncture.

Lucky you! I have seen a few Bs hit by puncture, that's why I know about the spanner. I also did a 4 hour off road with another B rider from Gua Charas to Sg. Lembing through the gravel roads in an oil palm plantation. So, I know the Bs capabilities. I hope you don't take offence on the comments as it was said with no malicious intention. Although we never met, I know about you F***x , Send my regards to SY Happy Riding!

This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 5 2015, 08:14 PM

If chromoly is needed , which is more comfortable to ride anyway, just go for the Dahon Speed P8. First of all, the frame is really proven. Second, it is within your price range, Third , it is really comfortable to ride. I think you should be able to get it for less than 2K from Kimbell Jaya. Add a 39 chainring, an FD and adapter plus a Microshift 8 speed shifter pair. another cable and housing, kautim! Same, same , 16 speed also. Lagi syiok, get the SRAM X5 shifters set, 10 speed cassette and make it 20 speed. The new Speeds are now shodded with SRAM X7 RDs.

For touring, it is good to have extra chainrings for some hilly rides.

This comment really put you in a dilemma

This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 5 2015, 09:07 PM

New shipment arrived already from Guan Chow. The red is the classic colour!



THE NEW DAHON DASH ! Using C-brakes and 451 wheelset.



This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 6 2015, 09:26 AM

Can get from Kimbell Jaya. Now selling like RM65 per pc. Give a call to Jimmy first before going, I think still have a few only.

No worries, what is in that link is the same on this tread. Just join them for the ride.

If you go to Togoparts, a website in Singapore, thee's some for sale there. There's even posting by a Brompton refurbisher in UK who takes old Bs and refurbish them and sell. Last time I checked, they are going for about S$1300 to S$2000 depending on the year, model and specs. But our ringgit is sliding down the drain and this is not the time to buy but hey! , who knows. Check Togoparts out under the market place section.

Your choice mentioned are almost all on the same specs. Performance wise is probably similar as well. Dahon Speed P8 is reliable and an old horse. SO far no Speed users have complains, including myself. It's easy to upgrade later as well. Now with SRAM components, it's better than the Neos used last time. Probably the only needed upgrade is the shifter as Dahon propriety shifter is lousy! Anyway, it's less than 100 bucks for both left and right thumb shifters. As for Vigor and MU , these are faster models (so they say lah ) but usually a rider is as fast as the slowest rider in a group. Hahaaa When you ride with your kids, you have to wait for them too, right? You are not wrong either in choosing either one of the mentioned. I preferred Speed for the chromoly frame which is not as harsh when riding as the aluminium frames. That's because I sometimes ride long distance.

As for Tern models, they also have the same specs but Tern seems to be trapped in a time zone. There are no new models from them. The Link and the Verge are the only 2 frame patterns for 20 inch models. In fact, the Verge is actually the Dahon Vector and the new Dahon Vector are now the Vigor similar like frames now. The performance is almost similar to the Dahon aluminium models but it loses out in the handlebar design. That's why Dahon patented it. It's OK if you like Tern designs, but for the higher price paid for it, I see no distinct advantages over the Dahons.

Happy Riding. Nice to see riders riding with the family.

This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 8 2015, 09:06 AM