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sayasebuk
post Dec 18 2007, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(drexar @ Dec 18 2007, 12:58 AM)
ok... i'll change their home then smile.gif

as for the green turtles i try to increase their sun bath time to 60 minutes per day... smile.gif
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we sunbath our turtles so as the turtles can benefit from the UVB rays from the sun. this is for vit D.

basking is another thing altogether. basking is for the turtles to dry themselves and gather heat that can help their digestion and regulate their body temperature (turtles are reptiles and need external source of heat)

a typical indoor setup would require two types of lighting setups. a full spectrum light for UVB, and a basking lamp for basking.
and if you dont want to change the water daily, use a filter.
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post Dec 26 2007, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 22 2007, 09:25 PM)
question: do they eat the green (bitter) pellets?

i'm not sure why sera did that (put in some extremely bitter pellets instead of mixing small quantities of the bitter ingredients into 'normal' pellets) but most tortoises will avoid the green ones. if any of the important nutrients is contained exclusively in the bitter pellets, the diet would be imbalanced then.
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isn't anyone a little bit curious as how exactly Camillenoir knows the taste of the pellets? haha. laugh.gif

QUOTE(inexsis @ Dec 22 2007, 11:45 PM)
about the spectrum light, do we need a special spectrum light holder
or we can buy the normal kalimantan light holder ? unsure.gif
only the bulb we need to buy the exxoterra bulb right ? (very expensive bulb)  sweat.gif
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u can also DIY the lamps. here are some examples of mine

DIY light holders

QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 24 2007, 08:28 AM)
Reptiles keeping is not the cheapest of hobbies around  !!!
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QUOTE(andrewnib @ Dec 24 2007, 10:31 AM)
Yah . .i got to agree with that . .

Depends on the type of the tortoise you are getting, some of the price might burnt your wallet when you first buying it but if think back and compared to othier type of pet, i think it is cheap. The food we are buying for tortoise is cheap, say you can get a bunch of Sawi for RM1 and can last for a week. For fish, keeping, we have to travel up and down to get live food for fries and adults. . .take into consideration about the milleage and time, also compare to the care, tortoise consider need a minimum care, as long as the temparature and food is right, they do well with it . . For fish, we got to watch out the water condition and change water every now and then. . . So tortoise keeping is cheaper and easier i guess.... 

But anyway, at the end, it's all back to our satisfaction . . .
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from personal experience, a planted fish aquarium still beats reptile keeping. reptile keeping is most expensive on the animal itself. others like food, enclosure, lights, etc has cheaper alternatives. my initial setup for my 2 1/2 feet planted aquarium is way over RM1K. that does not include maintenance (fertilizer, lights, etc). hoho.. but still doesn't beat the satisaction la hehe


QUOTE(inexsis @ Dec 24 2007, 12:17 PM)
1. 2ft tank
2. bedding (recycled paper pellet n wood chips)
3. food dish
4. hygrometer n termometer
5. carapace care
RM150++

still need to buy
1. basking lamp (too hard to find. most store already out of stock  cry.gif )
2. spectrum light + holder
3. vitamin
RM150++


But......still no Star tortoise..........
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waiting for uzairi to have new stock cry.gif
kamon uzairi kamon !!!!!!!!!!!!  whistling.gif

mayb my overall cost is nearly RM600  rclxub.gif
ouh YTN~~~~ where are u~~~~
i need u~~~~  icon_question.gif
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do you mean the basking lamp holder or the bulb itself? for bulb you can just buy the cheap ones (phillips, osram, etc). for the lamp holder you can just DIY. buy a ceramic socket, buy a bowl reflector (or make your own reflector) and walla, a lamp holder. for the clipping part, you need to be a lil bit creative.

specturm light no alternative. but the holder can DIY too. see my link above

vitamins not that expensive. below rm30 only

your total cost might not even reach RM100!!

This post has been edited by sayasebuk: Dec 26 2007, 12:00 PM
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post Dec 27 2007, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 26 2007, 07:09 PM)
i sampled enough brands to conclude which tortoises/turtles love which.. example: stars are more attracted to sweet smell and bright colors, no matter how bland the food might taste; elongated and forstenii are not as easily fooled by colors/smell  etc etc etc smile.gif
everything tastes like candy when hayden's on screen  wub.gif
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it is because of hardcore chelonian lovers like you (who go to certain extremes) that we get to learn simple yet important stuffs like this (which cannot be found anywhere on the website, even if you google for it)

btw i thought elongated are the easiest tortoise to feed since they practically eat almost everything you feed them?

QUOTE(climacool @ Dec 26 2007, 09:49 PM)
Star Tortoise problem: soft shell
why it happen ?
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maybe you should confirm in the first place whether you star really do have the problem.maybe because it's still a hatchling
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post Jan 2 2008, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(inexsis @ Jan 1 2008, 09:31 PM)
aiyooo....nothing new happen ka ?
me still xjumpe basking lamp cry.gif
everywhere sold out cry.gif
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what type of basking lamp are you really looking for? why still x jumpa?
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post Jan 3 2008, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(wong ching ku @ Jan 2 2008, 06:35 PM)
I have 2 terrapins, bought from the "release to the wild" kind of shops. Now, I'm keeping them in my indoor pond. I have only 1 problem with them, they eat the carp in the pond from time to time.  sad.gif

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looks like RES to me, then good luck. i think all your carps will go to heaven eventually.
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post Jan 11 2008, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(inexsis @ Jan 11 2008, 12:49 PM)
i want small one too cry.gif
but already got the medium size........aiyooooooooooooo
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if you want smaller and cheaper one, just DIY

DIY basking lamp
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post Jan 12 2008, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(inexsis @ Jan 12 2008, 12:35 AM)
i want exo terra one.........anyone one to trade my medium one with small one.....exo terra brand  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
if no one want, i had to lilit my lamp with aluminium foil to kecikkan sinaran....i'm using 2ft tank
n medium basking lamp is to big for them......the glow nearly consume 3/4 of the tank cry.gif
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hermm.. i have two small ones in use... i might be interested but i have no idea how big is the medium sized one and whether i will fit nicely in my tortoise enclosure. have to test first biggrin.gif . are you sure you wanna trade? once your stars become big, then you'll need the medium or large ones.. why not save the your medium ones and buy the small one
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QUOTE(mamba @ Jan 17 2008, 12:35 PM)
0o0o...i know dat shop..close to the school eh?got croc and big ally also right?

p/s: pls..elongata keepers POST PIC of urs!!! tongue.gif
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why? did u just bought one?

pictures of mine

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QUOTE(dai86 @ Jan 15 2008, 03:22 PM)
hey, i saw small aligator snapper in a shop in selayang. haha.... the have few....
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i wantt!!

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post Jan 19 2008, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 19 2008, 12:10 AM)
will ur soil stink after a long period?
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 19 2008, 12:24 AM)
those are cocopeat/neopith; free of pathogenic bacteria, absorbs waste and takes a long while to stink.

but of course got to spot clean poops and change the medium after a while.

imho, a great medium for tropical species kept indoors.
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camillenoir got it right. frankly, i've never noticed any stink (except when there are visible poops)

QUOTE(inexsis @ Jan 19 2008, 01:03 AM)
where i can find those kind of soil ?
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take note that this is best ONLY for tropical species since it can maintain the humidity very well. not suitable for desert species or dryland species (sulcata, star, etc).
plus have to mist regularly to prevent it drying up and becomes dusty (may cause irritation to the tort).
you find them at nurseries, and some pet shops (88, NA, etc)

they are very cheap and sold in blocks. you have to soak them in water before use.




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post Jan 21 2008, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 21 2008, 01:04 PM)
you're probably referring to 4-eye turtle (Sacalia quadrocellata), many stocks just came in.

note: wait for them to fully extend their neck.
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i thought of the same turtle too, but doubted it since they were not that common in our market. guess they are now
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Jan 23 2008, 09:14 AM)
Which pet shop in sea park? Is it the one near the POS office?

Is the raidated totoise big or small?
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QUOTE(DragonMebius @ Jan 23 2008, 10:16 AM)
Sea park?
At where?Which state?
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the only petshop selling exotics that i know of in sea park is irene aquarium
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Jan 23 2008, 07:03 PM)
Today I went to 8 aquarium shops. Among all of them, IRENE has the most tortoise/turtle

Highlight: I found 2 baby alligator snapping turtle at Kepong, Kin Fatt. Length is around 2 inch (without tail)

Selling at RM350 each

When I was there, it was feeding time. Those 2 ate around 6 small fishes in less than 5 minutes. Wah lao.. can really eat. The fish is around 2cm

These 2 looked very nice and healthy. Unfortunately I'm not looking for this alli

If anyone knows where to buy Radiata, do let me know. I prefer to be small size ones.
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damm, pretty expensive. maximum markup
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post Jan 25 2008, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Jan 23 2008, 07:59 PM)
Jln Pasar got Radiata for sale?
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saw one this morning at Irene aquarium

QUOTE(dzi921 @ Jan 24 2008, 04:07 PM)
I just came back from Jln Pasar

Only 1 small stall selling tortoise/turtle

3 Star
5 Baby Sulcata @ RM550 each
4 Common Snapping Turtle
1 Alligator Snapping Turtle
1 Long neck
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big one or small ally snapper?


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