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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!

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badshah
post Mar 24 2017, 11:11 AM

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Salam Guys,
How to Remove Camshaft?
I have a stock 4G13 Iswara. I had a broken timing belt and took of the head for inspection. Now there is a lot of gunk inside the head I would like to remove it, but for that need to remove the camshaft. So I removed the cam gear but if I try to push it out from the distributor end it is getting stuck at the bearings.
Any clues on how to remove camshaft?
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badshah
post Mar 26 2017, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Mar 24 2017, 12:03 PM)
On the first page of this thread you can find 2 pdf files

4G1x Engine manuals
http://www.mivec.co.nz/tech/4G1x_Engine_Manual.pdf
http://mitsu.ro/docs/Colt-91-95/workshop_manual.pdf


In those files you can find the sequence in the diagrams.

From the description it seems you must also remove the seal & rocker arm assembly before removing the camshaft.

UPDATE===
The Haynes manual says that, in addition, the fuel pump, have to be removed too.
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The Haynes page was the one I was looking for, I have gone through the manuals before and none of them actually discuss removing the camshaft.
The rockers, seal, sprocket and fuel pump are already removed.
Will give it a shot tomorrow.

badshah
post Mar 27 2017, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Mar 24 2017, 12:03 PM)
On the first page of this thread you can find 2 pdf files

4G1x Engine manuals
http://www.mivec.co.nz/tech/4G1x_Engine_Manual.pdf
http://mitsu.ro/docs/Colt-91-95/workshop_manual.pdf



UPDATE===
The Haynes manual says that, in addition, the fuel pump, have to be removed too.
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Thanks for your help got the cam out. Actually the problem was old baked oil on the shaft, so cleaned it up with kerosene but it did not help.
Then used petrol to clean the cam and bearing areas while it was in the head, and it slid out easily/

Now next problem, is how to get the crank bolt out.
Tried putting in gear and pressing on brakes, but did not help.
Tried the starter bump method, but it did not help.
Now I am thinking of installing the head and trying the rope in cylinder method.

Any ideas?
badshah
post Mar 31 2017, 04:50 AM

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Ok guys another issue, is the firing order 1-3-4-2 for Saga Iswara SOHC 4g13 Carburetor?

badshah
post Mar 31 2017, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Mar 31 2017, 06:51 AM)
1-3-4-2 it is.

By the way, you got out the crank bolt ?
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Thanks for the bolt out, by calling a mechanic.
He lowered the engine one side by loweing the cross member, and then stopping the flywheen by putting in an iron bar through the starter motor hole, and then applying all his weight.
I also did put some WD40 24 hours before this, so it may have helped too.
I dont recommend this method as there would have been extreme twisting force on the mounts. But it did get it opened.

OK car started, but but but...
1) There is sound from timing belt area.
2) The belt is riding to the very edge (engine side) of the cam pulley, is it normal?
3) I think belt is hitting something, or the crank pulley is hitting the plastic covers.
4) The Cam sprocket has a tiny bit of wobble like movement, but I am not sure how it is possible!




 

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