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 Traders Kopitiam! V6

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wayne84
post Nov 4 2014, 11:42 PM

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hahaha....nvm nvm. Still reserve some bulletwould like to see it drop below 3 actually....
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post Nov 4 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 4 2014, 11:38 PM)
why rush to buy? wink.gif
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Eh tak aci, short reply! lol
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post Nov 5 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Nov 4 2014, 11:42 PM)
hahaha....nvm nvm. Still reserve some bulletwould like to see it drop below 3 actually....
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I do remember our last 'chat' on this stock.

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As it is, you have to admit that your earlier decision to jump in this stock was rash.
Too soon.

Topping up now.... means one thing.... sweat.gif
you are attempting to correct that previous buy....
so you top up more...
to average your price....

But if your earlier decision to buy at 380 is to be considered a mistake...
then.... what you are doing now...
is basically....
buying more of your mistake !!!
You are doubling down on your earlier mistake !

Wise move?


Never mind..... let's consider other issue...

What's the current risk now?

Well it could retest the infamous low of 316.

that's a possibility.... right?

user posted image

If someone were to ask me to describe the above chart...
what would be my description?

A stock facing incredible downside pressure............ sweat.gif

and this factor....
is driven clearly by the plunging oil prices..........

and for me....
clearly this momentum is strong........

yeah back to the initial risk assessment...

yes.... it does likely the stock retest its recent 316 low and maybe we might even see some support and the stock bounce back..... it's possible...

but would this price hold if we factor in the plunging oil prices factor?
what if 316 doesn't hold? Not possible?

the bigger chart.................

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what's the next levels? 3? 280? 260?

what's the next strategy?

Buy a bit more at each level?

Do the math........ sweat.gif
Such strategy will require incredible lorry loads of ringgit.....................................

how?

are you willing to take this risk?
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 4 2014, 11:55 PM)
Eh tak aci, short reply! lol
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Why cannot?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 5 2014, 12:02 AM)
Why cannot?
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Because is just not you! Anyway, you already did made your detailed reply, hehe
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post Nov 5 2014, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 4 2014, 12:04 PM)
According to conventional wisdom, if a stock move up 20-25% in a short time, you should sell some to lock in the profits. Also, the stocks has almost reached the TPs of many investment banks.

But I will hold for the moment because: EPF still acquiring the stock, QE by Japan making the yen cheaper, and the charts has yet to show a head and shoulders formation. Also, I have a feeling there is more good stuff to come for Bjauto  brows.gif

Any thoughts?
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read this piece this morning....

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1217955
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 5 2014, 08:01 AM)
read this piece this morning....

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1217955
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Thanks for the sharing. I will wait for the next quarter report before deciding whether to buy more or sell.

This stock is a bit weird. Yesterday got good report from Maybank and announcement that EPF acquired 100,000 shares but the price still went down 5%.

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post Nov 5 2014, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 4 2014, 08:51 PM)
Here's another posting about chasing down the beaten down stocks.

Petdag's profit report was just released......

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Petdag last traded today at 20.50.  sweat.gif

First posting in July. post #1624

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


See also post #1953

See also post #1960

chase the stock down?

Here's the updated chart..........

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u mean hold or dump ?

im bought rm 20.31...
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post Nov 5 2014, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 5 2014, 08:30 AM)
Thanks for the sharing. I will wait for the next quarter report before deciding whether to buy more or sell.

This stock is a bit weird. Yesterday got good report from Maybank and announcement that EPF acquired 100,000 shares but the price still went down 5%.
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Nope I think it's not that weird.

Look the stock had rallied strongly since that 'brief correction' and was actually trading higher (before yesterday's fall).....
That's the simple sign of pure strength for me. wink.gif

However, as you know, the plunge in the oil markets, has traders getting nervy.
Hence, for me, it's understandable that some would want to take some money off the table.

That the stock fell 5% is ok.... for me.

Having said that, normally I tend to disregard research reports. tongue.gif
And I certainly wouldn't pay too much attention to them boys/girls playing for EPF.....

But the report from Maybank has a valid point.
Strength in the MYR against the JPY is a positive factor for BJAuto.

And the currency pairing chart does show the strength ultra weakness in the JPY.....

user posted image

And the chart of BJAuto...

user posted image

Well waiting for the next quarter profit report next month sounds a good move........
but you might want to put a 'stop/cut' position at 3.40.

All the best.
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post Nov 5 2014, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 5 2014, 08:47 AM)
Nope I think it's not that weird.

Look the stock had rallied strongly since that 'brief correction' and was actually trading higher (before yesterday's fall).....
That's the simple sign of pure strength for me. wink.gif

However, as you know, the plunge in the oil markets, has traders getting nervy.
Hence, for me, it's understandable that some would want to take some money off the table.

That the stock fell 5% is ok.... for me.

Having said that, normally I tend to disregard research reports. tongue.gif
And I certainly wouldn't pay too much attention to them boys/girls playing for EPF.....

But the report from Maybank has a valid point.
Strength in the MYR against the JPY is a positive factor for BJAuto.

And the currency pairing chart does show the strength  ultra weakness in the JPY.....

user posted image

And the chart of BJAuto...

user posted image

Well waiting for the next quarter profit report next month sounds a good move........
but you might want to put a 'stop/cut' position at 3.40.

All the best.
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like that NISSAN and Toyota distributor also join the ride....


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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 5 2014, 08:36 AM)
u mean hold or dump ?

im bought rm 20.31...
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LOL!

Felix, I cannot advice what to do laaa....
I am not a PRO. tongue.gif



Having said that, you might want to go over the old posting links I posted last night (esp comments made to you)......
Yup, in the first place, I would NOT have purchased the stock as highlighted since July 2014...............

As it is..... some facts for your consideration....

with the lower EPS, the stock is still trading at a pe multiples over 31x!
And current FY total dividends for 3 quarters is 38 sen vs 52.5 sen.





p/s OT a bit.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

Sadly, everyone is programmed to think that all plunging stocks means bargain hunting....

The danger/RISK in that thinking is........

THERE'S NO WRITTEN GUARANTEE THAT ONE WILL MAKE MONEY 100% WHEN THEY BARGAIN HUNT!!!!

Yup, if one buys a stock whose earnings is deteriorating rapidly.........
one could get whiplash by investors cashing their chips out of that stock....
and what used to be a bargain.... could get a whole lot cheaper !!!!






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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 5 2014, 08:50 AM)
like that NISSAN and Toyota distributor also join the ride....
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Possible but before assuming, you need to read their profit notes....
Check for possible hedging (hedging on wrong prices wouldn't benefit them at all)

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Side note...

Nissan cars....... errr ............ wink.gif
Toyota......... not much excitement lately, yes?

Mazda? It seems so fashionable currently.....
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 5 2014, 08:58 AM)
LOL!

Felix, I cannot advice what to do laaa....
I am not a PRO. tongue.gif
Having said that, you might want to go over the old posting links I posted last night (esp comments made to you)......
Yup, in the first place, I would NOT have purchased the stock as highlighted since July 2014...............

As it is..... some facts for your consideration....

with the lower EPS, the stock is still trading at a pe multiples over 31x!
And current FY total dividends for 3 quarters is 38 sen vs 52.5 sen.
p/s OT a bit....  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Sadly, everyone is programmed to think that all plunging stocks means bargain hunting....

The danger/RISK in that thinking is........

THERE'S NO WRITTEN GUARANTEE THAT ONE WILL MAKE MONEY 100% WHEN THEY BARGAIN HUNT!!!!

Yup, if one buys a stock whose earnings is deteriorating rapidly.........
one could get whiplash by investors cashing their chips out of that stock....
and what used to be a bargain.... could get a whole lot cheaper !!!!
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i sold early morning. laugh.gif thanks for the highlight..


.bought rm20.24 -> receive dividend rm25.50 -> sell rm20.30(successful today) = TELOR kosong.

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post Nov 5 2014, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 5 2014, 09:07 AM)
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i sold early morning.  laugh.gif thanks for the highlight..
.bought rm20.24 -> receive dividend rm25.50 -> sell rm20.30(successful today) =  TELOR kosong.
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I hope this is another example that highlights why I do not particularly like to bargain hunt trading............

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post Nov 5 2014, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 5 2014, 09:12 AM)
I hope this is another example that highlights why I do not particularly like to bargain hunt trading............

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if sell at 25 profit already hmm.gif ....but want play dividend rolleyes.gif ...
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post Nov 5 2014, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 5 2014, 09:12 AM)
I hope this is another example that highlights why I do not particularly like to bargain hunt trading............

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what ever; thanks give early morning report... rclxms.gif



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post Nov 5 2014, 09:34 AM

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Mitra going up today thumbup.gif

So far, some of my previous bargain hunting did not turn up well. (example: Bjtoto)
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PWROOT anyone?
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 5 2014, 09:22 AM)
what ever; thanks give early morning report... rclxms.gif
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sorry for the ramble then.....
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Nov 5 2014, 09:42 AM)
PWROOT anyone?
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Hmm, any reason why you are interested in Pwroot? hmm.gif

The only positives I see is the dividend yield and the recent dip in price (Bargain hunting whistling.gif )

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