Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
127 Pages « < 14 15 16 17 18 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Traders Kopitiam! V6

views
     
gark
post Nov 25 2014, 06:31 PM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
12,534 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
From: Penang, KL, China, Indonesia....
QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 25 2014, 06:28 PM)
gambling...IF  hmm.gif
*
Isn't stock market a form iof gambling...?

It just a matter to align the odds for you rather than against you.. then they call it 'investment' laugh.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 25 2014, 06:31 PM
plumberly
post Nov 25 2014, 06:32 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,761 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: My house


QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 05:24 PM)
Ya .. long leave.  brows.gif
*
Welcome back Sifu Gark!


gark
post Nov 25 2014, 06:33 PM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
12,534 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
From: Penang, KL, China, Indonesia....
QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 25 2014, 06:32 PM)
Welcome back Sifu Gark!
*
I am no sifu leh..

sifu that way -------> Boon3

icon_rolleyes.gif
felixmask
post Nov 25 2014, 06:36 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,356 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:31 PM)
Isn't stock market a form iof gambling...?

It just a matter to align the odds for you rather than against you.. then they call it 'investment' laugh.gif
*
can buy now ? Oil brent like going down..leh. What price ur TP buying hmm.gif i queue 15% lower than u.

New York have early snow..forecast flood during Xmas..there no higher demand of oil & gas year end celebration.
gark
post Nov 25 2014, 06:37 PM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
12,534 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
From: Penang, KL, China, Indonesia....
QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 25 2014, 06:36 PM)
New York have early snow..forecast flood during Xmas..there no higher demand of oil & gas year end celebration.
*
More snow = more oil consumption... whistling.gif
felixmask
post Nov 25 2014, 06:37 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,356 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:33 PM)
I am no sifu leh..

sifu that way -------> Boon3

  icon_rolleyes.gif
*
Want free starbuck from me? then must hold sifu title at lowyat forum
felixmask
post Nov 25 2014, 06:38 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,356 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:37 PM)
More snow = more oil consumption...  whistling.gif
*
i do agree more now..but Metrology expecting Higher tempreature..will trigger flood
bursalchemy
post Nov 25 2014, 06:43 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
485 posts

Joined: Jul 2011
QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:31 PM)
Isn't stock market a form iof gambling...?

It just a matter to align the odds for you rather than against you.. then they call it 'investment' laugh.gif
*
If your assertion for stock market investment is gambling. Then FD also a form of gambling, there are still probability that bank will default on the interest payment, like what happened in Greeks "haircut"

Even holding cash is also a form of gambling, we will not know what happen tomorrow to our economy. Our currency may devalue against other currency and reduce our purchasing power. Nothing is certain in every form of assets right?

Decades ago, the market treats gold as a safe assets and only will go up. But this is proven as wrong assumption as gold has dropped in value in recent years.

However, market still assume MGS is risk free assets. As government can print money when it want to bail the country's economy out.

None of any assets is certain right?

This post has been edited by bursalchemy: Nov 25 2014, 06:45 PM
gark
post Nov 25 2014, 06:55 PM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
12,534 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
From: Penang, KL, China, Indonesia....
QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Nov 25 2014, 06:43 PM)
If your assertion for stock market investment is gambling. Then FD also a form of gambling, there are still probability that bank will default on the interest payment, like what happened in Greeks "haircut"

Even holding cash is also a form of gambling, we will not know what happen tomorrow to our economy. Our currency may devalue against other currency and reduce our purchasing power. Nothing is certain in every form of assets right?

Decades ago, the market treats gold as a safe assets and only will go up. But this is proven as wrong assumption as gold has dropped in value in recent years.

However, market still assume MGS is risk free assets. As government can print money when it want to bail the country's economy out.

None of any assets is certain right?
*
Life is also a gamble, for example when you decide to cross a road.. wink.gif

But then again, you can reduce the risk significantly, but not write it off completely, when you look left and right before crossing. whistling.gif

Same with any other investment..

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 25 2014, 06:58 PM
SUSPink Spider
post Nov 25 2014, 07:00 PM

Formerly known as Prince_Hamsap
********
Senior Member
16,872 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:55 PM)
Life is also a gamble, for example when you decide to cross a road..  wink.gif

But then again, you can reduce the risk significantly, but not write it off completely, when you look left and right before crossing.  whistling.gif

Same with any other investment..
*
Left and right no car coming

Then someone throw a washing machine from the apartment unit above...
bursalchemy
post Nov 25 2014, 07:07 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
485 posts

Joined: Jul 2011
QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:55 PM)
Life is also a gamble, for example when you decide to cross a road..  wink.gif

But then again, you can reduce the risk significantly, but not write it off completely, when you look left and right before crossing.  whistling.gif

Same with any other investment..
*
From my point of view, the safest assets is wheat, rice commodity. No matter in what situation, mankind still needs food to stay alive. However, they are perishable.

In war time, even canned foods and ikan masin are worth more than any form of assets. smile.gif

This post has been edited by bursalchemy: Nov 25 2014, 07:07 PM
felixmask
post Nov 25 2014, 07:07 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,356 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
can go straight forward juz direct TIPZ and what u buy....


I will follow YOU. tongue.gif
felixmask
post Nov 25 2014, 07:08 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,356 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Nov 25 2014, 07:07 PM)
From my point of view, the safest assets is wheat, rice commodity. No matter in what situation, mankind still needs food to stay alive. However, they are perishable.

In war time, even canned foods and ikan masin are worth more than any form of assets.  smile.gif
*
in other words is retail...loh...
SUSPink Spider
post Nov 25 2014, 07:17 PM

Formerly known as Prince_Hamsap
********
Senior Member
16,872 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


I vote for...Nestle! U pokai, eat Maggi. How pokai also, Milo still can drink...cos tasty and can fill tummy tongue.gif

But I observe recent trend of financial announcements...

MOST if not all companies reported higher expenses, and their revenue increase (IF ANY) cannot cover the increase, hence reduced earnings.

Slowdown...signalled whistling.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 25 2014, 07:18 PM
Le Don
post Nov 25 2014, 07:24 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
354 posts

Joined: Aug 2014
BJauto go up a lot, then go down a lot. EPF manipulating the price? whistling.gif

This post has been edited by Le Don: Nov 25 2014, 07:25 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
Le Don
post Nov 25 2014, 07:28 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
354 posts

Joined: Aug 2014
Mitra going up. Better result announcement coming soon? rclxms.gif


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
TSBoon3
post Nov 25 2014, 08:01 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Nov 25 2014, 05:41 PM)
Next time take leave, please apply with us first.... Boon3 misbehave a lot when you were away...
*
meh????

tongue.gif
TSBoon3
post Nov 25 2014, 08:03 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:22 PM)
We buy shares looking into the future... not the past.  laugh.gif

The current problems with Armada now is clear for all to see.. the margin drop, the weak oil price, the high start up cost, high depreciation... etc etc, which is all eating into their profits.

Armada can be said is biting more than it can chew, it is previously unthinkable for a FPSO company to start 3 FPSO project concurrently much less 4 if they do get the Madura project. This is because each of those vessel is going to cost them USD 1 bil ++ each and it will be a 3-4 years before the profits come....

Mind you, Armada is a very aggressive company, during IPO it has only 2 FPSO, now it has 5 FPSO and 3 more under construction.. all in the span of few years.  rclxub.gif

But what you need to focus on is the future IF they can pull it off successfully. wink.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
That might a problem, I reckon.

Don't like his companies.... tongue.gif


TSBoon3
post Nov 25 2014, 08:05 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:31 PM)
Isn't stock market a form iof gambling...?

It just a matter to align the odds for you rather than against you.. then they call it 'investment' laugh.gif
*
laugh.gif

I do agree.

Everything is a gamble.

There's no investment that carries absolutely zero risk. tongue.gif
gark
post Nov 26 2014, 10:03 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
12,534 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
From: Penang, KL, China, Indonesia....
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 25 2014, 08:03 PM)
That might a problem, I reckon.

Don't like his companies.... tongue.gif
*
Well high growth (via debt/leverage) can be double edged sword... if everything goes well and the economy supports it, it can produce excellent results. If not, then it will crash and burn under the weight of all the debts.

Many examples of companies on both sides of the sword. tongue.gif

127 Pages « < 14 15 16 17 18 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0291sec    0.49    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 4th December 2025 - 01:44 AM