QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 25 2014, 06:28 PM)
Isn't stock market a form iof gambling...? It just a matter to align the odds for you rather than against you.. then they call it 'investment'
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:31 PM) Isn't stock market a form iof gambling...? can buy now ? Oil brent like going down..leh. What price ur TP buying It just a matter to align the odds for you rather than against you.. then they call it 'investment' New York have early snow..forecast flood during Xmas..there no higher demand of oil & gas year end celebration. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:31 PM) Isn't stock market a form iof gambling...? If your assertion for stock market investment is gambling. Then FD also a form of gambling, there are still probability that bank will default on the interest payment, like what happened in Greeks "haircut"It just a matter to align the odds for you rather than against you.. then they call it 'investment' Even holding cash is also a form of gambling, we will not know what happen tomorrow to our economy. Our currency may devalue against other currency and reduce our purchasing power. Nothing is certain in every form of assets right? Decades ago, the market treats gold as a safe assets and only will go up. But this is proven as wrong assumption as gold has dropped in value in recent years. However, market still assume MGS is risk free assets. As government can print money when it want to bail the country's economy out. None of any assets is certain right? This post has been edited by bursalchemy: Nov 25 2014, 06:45 PM |
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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Nov 25 2014, 06:43 PM) If your assertion for stock market investment is gambling. Then FD also a form of gambling, there are still probability that bank will default on the interest payment, like what happened in Greeks "haircut" Life is also a gamble, for example when you decide to cross a road.. Even holding cash is also a form of gambling, we will not know what happen tomorrow to our economy. Our currency may devalue against other currency and reduce our purchasing power. Nothing is certain in every form of assets right? Decades ago, the market treats gold as a safe assets and only will go up. But this is proven as wrong assumption as gold has dropped in value in recent years. However, market still assume MGS is risk free assets. As government can print money when it want to bail the country's economy out. None of any assets is certain right? But then again, you can reduce the risk significantly, but not write it off completely, when you look left and right before crossing. Same with any other investment.. This post has been edited by gark: Nov 25 2014, 06:58 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:55 PM) Life is also a gamble, for example when you decide to cross a road.. Left and right no car comingBut then again, you can reduce the risk significantly, but not write it off completely, when you look left and right before crossing. Same with any other investment.. Then someone throw a washing machine from the apartment unit above... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:55 PM) Life is also a gamble, for example when you decide to cross a road.. From my point of view, the safest assets is wheat, rice commodity. No matter in what situation, mankind still needs food to stay alive. However, they are perishable. But then again, you can reduce the risk significantly, but not write it off completely, when you look left and right before crossing. Same with any other investment.. In war time, even canned foods and ikan masin are worth more than any form of assets. This post has been edited by bursalchemy: Nov 25 2014, 07:07 PM |
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can go straight forward juz direct TIPZ and what u buy....
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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Nov 25 2014, 07:07 PM) From my point of view, the safest assets is wheat, rice commodity. No matter in what situation, mankind still needs food to stay alive. However, they are perishable. in other words is retail...loh...In war time, even canned foods and ikan masin are worth more than any form of assets. |
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I vote for...Nestle! U pokai, eat Maggi. How pokai also, Milo still can drink...cos tasty and can fill tummy
But I observe recent trend of financial announcements... MOST if not all companies reported higher expenses, and their revenue increase (IF ANY) cannot cover the increase, hence reduced earnings. Slowdown...signalled This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 25 2014, 07:18 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2014, 06:22 PM) We buy shares looking into the future... not the past. That might a problem, I reckon.The current problems with Armada now is clear for all to see.. the margin drop, the weak oil price, the high start up cost, high depreciation... etc etc, which is all eating into their profits. Armada can be said is biting more than it can chew, it is previously unthinkable for a FPSO company to start 3 FPSO project concurrently much less 4 if they do get the Madura project. This is because each of those vessel is going to cost them USD 1 bil ++ each and it will be a 3-4 years before the profits come.... Mind you, Armada is a very aggressive company, during IPO it has only 2 FPSO, now it has 5 FPSO and 3 more under construction.. all in the span of few years. But what you need to focus on is the future IF they can pull it off successfully. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Don't like his companies.... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 25 2014, 08:03 PM) Well high growth (via debt/leverage) can be double edged sword... if everything goes well and the economy supports it, it can produce excellent results. If not, then it will crash and burn under the weight of all the debts.Many examples of companies on both sides of the sword. |
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