if u care so much abt the halal sign/logo
thn if u come to sabah...u eat KFC everyday lah
chicken shop here ...everyday full of ppl(malay, chinese and indian)...no halal logo...u masuk?

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Nov 3 2014, 02:54 PM

And that my friends is the difference between the East and West Malaysia people....

This post has been edited by ZeroSOFInfinity: Nov 3 2014, 02:55 PM

kalau kedai vegetarian dan kata tak hidang arak memang halal 99%,

1% kena cari orang yang benar-benar alim hal-hal agama ni, cuba tanya orang masjid.

sometimes people too worried about halal logo and stuff.

should know that this halal logo thing is a malaysian thing.

No need to get too fanatical on this, if a malay muslim auntie sell fried banana under

a tree got no halal cert then gg liao all muslims who eat there with this logic.

In the end, know the Islamic rulings properly, you would know, just no pork/pork

derivative as one of the ingredients, while alcohol is a debatable thing,

if used as a technical ingredient (softening up the meat) and assumed to evaporate

during cooking it is for the discretion of individual muslim to assume its halal or not

for consumption (no muslim has the right to prevent or coerce each other into

eating/not eating if differing in opinion about this).

inb4 ulama /k

bang its not about the logo

its about the overall preparation of the food

from the ingredients and utensils used and even hygiene

If you feel 100% the food prepared is halal, eat
If you feel 50/50, don't eat.

Simple as that. It all comes from "niat"

This post has been edited by soundsyst64: Nov 3 2014, 03:12 PM

itu penang teochew chendul shop also got no pork no lard sign

hygiene is all universal, all eateries if hygiene is bad gg liao all.

utensils will go down to hygiene too. The issue of said items was used to handle pork needs to be washed 7 times is only of one fiqh school ( the original hadith only applies to the licking of dogs).

( malaysia has a strong adherence to Shafee school of jurisprudence, the only school that defines the 3 levels of najis, which not all the scholars agree. )

Otherwise other fiqh schools agree that utensils does not need to be washed 7 times, only washed clean.

ingredients is a no brainer, if there is pork among the ingredients, its clearly not halal for consumption by muslims.

malay muslims all around blindly follow the Shafee school of Jurisprudence and ignoring the freedom of referring and choosing other islamic scholars even ridiculing people having following other mazhabs.

This post has been edited by ahurgan: Nov 3 2014, 03:14 PM

is halal just about pork and lard? no, right? so its not enough la.

is there alcohol in the food?
was the meat slaughtered according to halal or kosher requirements?
was the food cooked cleanly, is there a lot of blood left in the meat?

i just finished reading a research article about how alcohol doesnt evaporate as quickly as ppl think. so any food cooked with alcohol is likely to still contain a high percentage of alcohol even after baking at 350 deg F for more than an hour. its only after 3 hrs that the alcohol content is reduced to 5% of original.

so be careful when buying cakes.

sounds good for a bowl of cendol yo!

correct

If in doubt go to the kitchen and inspect all the ingredient.

If malas, dun eat.

If hungry but malas, just eat in condition it is like once in a while only.

Warong Anda near my place also no "Halal" sign, don't even have a "No Pork No Lard' sign, but malays still go in. So is it Halal?

bang you really dont understand my point do you?

its not just pork

if the chicken used are not slaughtered properly then its haram

Vegetarian tak sentuh arak..

alcohol does not burn up and evaporate as quickly as everyone thinks. see link below.

http://www.ochef.com/165.htm

im with you bro, that a lot of ppl are a bit too strict abt halal but at the same time, we have to still be careful. throwing caution to the wind is not the best way to deal with halal and haram. shafiee's age old doctrine of it being better to be sure it is halal than to take a risk of it actually being haram applies here.

no not halal if they cut the chicken head like ISIS cut hostage heads

HALAL only if ONE chop complete head drop onto the floor

unless it's Vegatarian, i'd say no, coz you won't know whether the Chicken & Kambing are halal or not.

yeah sorry about that. can ask the shop owner if in doubt.

some shops do mention in their menu that their sourcing for meat would be from a halal source like itallianies.

Jangan makan la. Senang. Bawak loti, kaya, planta, gula kalau mau.