i walk round -round jb....i see a food shop with malay workers, but no halal logo in the front of the shop....i can see some customers also malay.....shop only put '"No Pork, No Lard"' sign on the shop windows.....so is "No Pork, No Lard"= Halal?

sometimes people too worried about halal logo and stuff.

should know that this halal logo thing is a malaysian thing.

No need to get too fanatical on this, if a malay muslim auntie sell fried banana under

a tree got no halal cert then gg liao all muslims who eat there with this logic.

In the end, know the Islamic rulings properly, you would know, just no pork/pork

derivative as one of the ingredients, while alcohol is a debatable thing,

if used as a technical ingredient (softening up the meat) and assumed to evaporate

during cooking it is for the discretion of individual muslim to assume its halal or not

for consumption (no muslim has the right to prevent or coerce each other into

eating/not eating if differing in opinion about this).

inb4 ulama /k

alcohol will vaporize n vanish when cooked. still tarak trace of it unless some super scientist from jakim comes n show ada. u know they will do anything to ..... condem other pipur mia food.

alcohol does not burn up and evaporate as quickly as everyone thinks. see link below.

http://www.ochef.com/165.htm

im with you bro, that a lot of ppl are a bit too strict abt halal but at the same time, we have to still be careful. throwing caution to the wind is not the best way to deal with halal and haram. shafiee's age old doctrine of it being better to be sure it is halal than to take a risk of it actually being haram applies here.